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RE: Pleasure Providing Dom's - 5/26/2008 2:23:39 PM   
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I don't think a Dom giving pleasure makes them undomly. When my Dom brings me to orgasm with his fingers he's totally in control of me, of my orgasm and I just let go.... I'm glad I have a Dom who doesn't worry about something being "undomly." If he enjoys it he'll do it, such as going down on me. Doesn't make him seem any less in control.

OP, one way he does this is to put me on the sybian and he takes the controls. He teases me mercilessly until I'm begging to come and then lets me come really hard. The pleasure is mostly mine, but he's still very much in control of when, and if, I come.

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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 5/26/2008 2:40:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Pantera31k

What are some good techniques to use when you're a dom/master who outright enjoys seeing the pleasure in another, but isn't submissive in any way.
Meaning you're still completely dominant in giving commands and training your sub, but get off on seeing your sub/pet/slave in pleasure.



Take a step back and realize that you can do whatever you want... if you enjoy the taste of a woman, taste her, if you enjoy seeing that flush of orgasm, give it to her... you are in control, anything you do that pleases another is not neccisarily submissive, you arent taking orders, or submitting to someone else's will, you are enjoying yourself and your sub/pet/slave

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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 5/26/2008 4:44:23 PM   
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I agree wholeheartedly with sublibrarian.

It gives my Sire enormous pleasure to watch me enjoy myself - as much as it does him to see me in pain, frustration and all the rest, in fact.

Sometimes I do feel selfish when the whole scene seems to be revolving around me, but he always assures me that my pleasure is pleasing HIM.

And he always retains control; he decides when, and if, I can cum, I'm not allowed to masturbate without his permission and he also delights in forcing me to have orgasms when I'm not really in the mood.

Giving a sub pleasure is just another way of using her body to please the Dom himself, to prove again that her body is his to do with as he pleases. JMHO.

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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 5/26/2008 5:03:25 PM   
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Pleasuring the boys is far from submissive, in our relationship. I can take them whenever and essentialy however I wish. They do orgasm (around me, neither does on their own) and I enjoy the power to. I love the reactions I get from extreme arousal, and having someone ask me to allow them to cum for me. Being female, I do not orgasm nearly as easily as the boys do, so more often than not (always with Angel, more frequently with Fox) they cum and I dont. I am fine with this, when I want to cum I know what to direct and when I just want to enjoy the acts without worrying about an orgasm I do that too. It doesnt reduce my control to do what I want with the bodies of my boys, whether that is to whip, bite, screw or diaper them.

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RE: Pleasure Providing Dom's - 5/26/2008 5:07:50 PM   
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many subs find it very difficult to be the focus of receiving pleasure.



Heheheh thats one of the reasons I like it *g*


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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 5/26/2008 6:56:03 PM   
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My orgasms belong to Him. So he can make them happen whenever and however he likes!
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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 5/27/2008 7:24:38 AM   
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I've always thought that any considerate person enjoys knowing their partner is happy. As such, there's nothing wrong in bringing them a cup of tea when you get up to refill yours.
Now if you're talking about play, please keep in mind that you don't have to be into s & m to be d/s.

For play suggestions, search for forced orgasm. He's big on this. Tie me up and ignore me begging to stop. Not allowing me time between to breathe. He likes seeing me unable to talk or walk afterwards. That's literal, I have been known to be so loopy that I bounce off the walls while trying to get ten feet to the bathroom.

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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 5/27/2008 7:38:30 AM   
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You have to develope the mind to accept the basic fact that acts are not submissive or dominant on their own, the motivation behind the act may give it a dominant or submissive bend. Dominance is not about removing the submissives pleasure, it's about being in charge of all of them (for whatever time period, and withn whatever liits have been established), their pleasure and their pain, their emotions and their thoughts...



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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 5/27/2008 11:45:35 AM   
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I also get great pleasure from giving pleasure. As others have mentioned, I see nothing that diminishes the "Dominant" by doing this. I actually strive to make experiences more pleasurable for the submissive as a means of taking her to levels of letting go she may not have experienced before. As some have also mentioned, I have found some submissives who are not comfortable with allowing themselves to be pleasured. It seems to contradict their concept of what is involved in pleasing a Dominant.


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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 5/27/2008 11:59:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pantera31k

What are some good techniques to use when you're a dom/master who outright enjoys seeing the pleasure in another, but isn't submissive in any way.
Meaning you're still completely dominant in giving commands and training your sub, but get off on seeing your sub/pet/slave in pleasure.


think.. "chocolate". There is no other pleasure giving thing on the planet greater than CHOCOLATE!  (and be creative)   However, this only works on women.
 

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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 5/27/2008 12:50:31 PM   
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If playing with a slave or submissive required that I analyzed every action to consider if I were providing pleasure to my partner/victim; I'd consider it 'work' and quit my involvement with WIITWD and instead join the professional Wii bowling tour.

Didn't read many previous posts, but I trust someone brought up the idea of partnership compatibility? Ideally you have some level of compatibility with the person on the other side of the flogger. It could be basic and sensation oriented or a broad brush stoke of some level of masochism with an compatible amount of sadism. The majority of people I encounter express pleasure, immaterial of their preference; they just want someone other than themselves to 'play'.

On some level every 'degrading', 'disgusting', 'perverted', third person association to things and activities between a Dominant and a submissive provided some "pleasure" to the submissive. Even should the specific act be on the borderline of exceeding a limit, or if it is an act stretching the limit, never to be attempted again - the submissive's "pleasure" can be simply that it served. As amazing as it may be to some people there are people who do derive pleasure from serving. Amazingly there are also masochists who process a welt raising caning as "pleasure". Should I, as a sadist not enjoy inflicting the caning, or avoid an opportunity to have my slave serve me because she may experience some form of "pleasure" as a result? Who would that serve? Damn! I searched all my life for a person who was always ready to 'play' and awaited the next opportunity to serve. What's the logic having found one to toss her away? I couldn't imaging myself 5 years ago after a few hours with beth and saying; "Damn woman, you have an amazing sex drive and potentially you can be as equally perverted as me. Not only that you seem to want to experience ALL the things I love. Too bad you get pleasure from it. Its a shame, but I'm a Dom and I could risk getting tossed out of the 'Dom-Union' if people found out I provided you pleasure. So again - sorry and Good-bye!"

The same holds true in the less esoteric pursuits; whether it be a place to travel, a style of living, or a certain food. Personally, I define "suffering", the opposite of pleasure, as not being in the company of my slave. Having the opportunity for her to join me in a business trip eliminates that suffering. The fact that she may enjoy the trip, whether its to Europe or North Hollywood isn't part of my decision to take her.

In my opinion I think the Master/Dom should seek opportunities for providing pleasure. Establishing that the Dominant has that ability is very important to a relationship; whether long term or play session at a local dungeon. A favorite presenter of ours, Skip Casey, conducts a wonderful seminar on the subject called 'The Servant Master'. The Master has the control of pleasure he doesn't forgo an activity because the sub may be pleasured by it. The pleasure is used to train, to confirm, to establish more control. More important its used to build, maintain, and grow the relationship. Giving pleasure to a partner is also a source of confidence. Being compatible, and providing through complimentary sensations the ultimate pleasure orgasm, whether mental, or literal, is Dominance at its best.

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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 6/12/2008 1:12:35 PM   
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we have apparently been having a little debate about me giving in to my slaves fetish on the ask a mistress side. It was nice to find this thread. I feel still perfectly in control when my sub begs for his fetish (scat) and I allow it. Toeach (relationship) his own.
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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 6/12/2008 1:37:25 PM   
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I never knew being a Dom/me was only about pain and not pleasure...or just giving commands and training a sub/slave/pet.  As the Dom/me, you have responsilbilty for it ALL-the pleasure as well as the pain/punishment. 

Do what you would do naturally to make sure your sub is satisfied by whatever means and methods you choose.  But then, don't stop there.  Go PAST that point where they ever thought they could go.  There are more limits to push than just physical.

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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 6/13/2008 2:41:51 AM   
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I braided my pets hair when I was here, because I wanted to... does that make me submissive, do I have to turn in my Dom card now? no, I did something because I wanted to... motivation is what matters, not what you actually do

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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 7/6/2008 11:24:20 AM   
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Gee,....   my sub's only real complaint is that I often give her TOO MUCH pleasure.  lol I like to make her pass out from too many strong orgasms.  It's my role to dominate her and I truly enjoy giving her pleasure.  She has never questioned my power over her.  Especially not after she realized I could make her cum just by telling her to do so. 

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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 7/6/2008 12:59:09 PM   
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When you like to give pleasure you do whatever it is that makes your pet writhe in pleasure. One of the more fun things is to see just how much pleasure I can inflict on a poor girl. Hard to imagine anything yummier. Is it still sadism when you're using pleasure instead of pain? 


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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 7/6/2008 2:03:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pantera31k

What are some good techniques to use when you're a dom/master who outright enjoys seeing the pleasure in another, but isn't submissive in any way.
Meaning you're still completely dominant in giving commands and training your sub, but get off on seeing your sub/pet/slave in pleasure.


Perhaps if you could tell us what you think the problem is, that would help.  For instance, do you think that it is undomly to allow your sub to experience pleasure? Do you think you must withhold that? Do you think only pain is "proper"?  Do you think the sub must suffer?

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RE: Pleasure Providing Dom's - 7/6/2008 3:17:24 PM   
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I slice away the skin around their clitoris so that I can get to it easier with clothespins. 

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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 7/6/2008 4:04:21 PM   
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see how many times you can make her cum in the truck while driving to dinner..o-yea...hand her a vib ..LOL...you might get sticky..LOL..

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RE: Pleasure Providing Doms - 7/6/2008 6:46:33 PM   
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I'll put another two cents worth in...  I believe if the sub has been taught, or believes of their own accord, that they are not due any pleasure, or do not deserve any pleasure, then you have an issue.  It speaks poorly of the sub's self-esteem and value.  If the Dom/me is teaching the sub that they have no right to pleasure and aren't allowed to experience it, then it is the Dom/me who has the problem.

If you prefer not to have pleasure and to only provide it for someone else, then that is your thing.  But, if the Dom/me is requiring you to live that way I'd say I couldn't support such a thing.  Perhaps for some sub or slave I'm borrowing or working with, but not MY sub or slave. 

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