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Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 8:23:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I hate the way people in the UK look down on Americans and think of them as uncultured.  It's total rubbish and its great to finally be able to prove it.

This evening, a squad comprising 22 of the most accomplished Americans alive will gallantly take part in a game of football - yes, the real thing - against the nation they humbly venerate.  I hope the US awards the team and Bob Bradley a tickertape welcome back home - no matter how soundly they are thrashed tonight.  Heroes one and all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7420122.stm

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 9:05:46 AM   
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Heroes one and all.


Huh? what is so heroic about them...I was expecting something more inspiring than a damned soccer team....

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 9:09:58 AM   
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Heroes one and all.


Huh? what is so heroic about them...I was expecting something more inspiring than a damned soccer team....
Another beautifully descriptive word - "Hero" - bites the dust. Sad, eh wot?

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 9:20:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		So, these twenty-two prophets are clearly - and sadly - not to be honoured in their own land?

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 9:49:45 AM   
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So, these twenty-two prophets are clearly - and sadly - not to be honoured in their own land?

Football is a game feared only by those who do not know it and cherished by those who do.


Why would we honor them?  We don't watch it.  Honestly, I don't know where American soccer clubs get their funding from.  It's not really a sport geared toward televison with those huge fucking fields they play on.  It's boring as hell to watch, there's no action.  Seriously, I'd rather watch lawn mower racing than a soccer match. 

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 10:07:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Playing sports I can understand. I have participated in many such activities throughout my entire life. It's a great way to relieve stress, get some exercise and often to enjoy some competitive fun.

But watching almost any sport bores me to tears. I don't understand the desire to watch sports at all.

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 10:11:23 AM   
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But watching almost any sport bores me to tears. I don't understand the desire to watch sports at all.





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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 11:04:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Okies now, is this game football like American football? Or soccer like I think British football is (tho I could be totally wrong)?And are the British guys weirdly gigantic like the American ones?Why do you assume that we will be da losers huh?

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 11:17:46 AM   
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Playing sports I can understand. I have participated in many such activities throughout my entire life. It's a great way to relieve stress, get some exercise and often to enjoy some competitive fun.

But watching almost any sport bores me to tears. I don't understand the desire to watch sports at all.
Nor I. Druther be nesting between a pair of succulent thighs tugging on some sweet labia with my teeth.

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 11:17:54 AM   
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Thankfully her younger sister (now 10) never showed even the slightest inclination to play soccer - which means other than a 2 season stint a decade ago, I've sucessfully avoided becoming the dreaded Soccer Mom.

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 11:28:51 AM   
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I hate the way people in the UK look down on Americans and think of them as uncultured.  It's total rubbish and its great to finally be able to prove it.

This evening, a squad comprising 22 of the most accomplished Americans alive will gallantly take part in a game of football - yes, the real thing - against the nation they humbly venerate.  I hope the US awards the team and Bob Bradley a tickertape welcome back home - no matter how soundly they are thrashed tonight.  Heroes one and all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7420122.stm


Methinks your announcement is a pearl cast before swine.  Allow me to apologize for my "countrymen's' boorish reaction.  I, for one, appreciate your attempt.   However, it has done more to demonstrate why Americans are viewed as they are.   "Tongue in cheek" is not our strong suit .

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 12:10:24 PM   
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I hate the way people in the UK look down on Americans and think of them as uncultured. 
I dont. Bette Midler for First Lady I say.

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This evening, a squad comprising 22 of the most accomplished Americans alive will gallantly take part in a game of football
Dont you mean a squad of 11 ?
I remember , OMG 'ere 'e goes again, when the US actually defeated the UK 1 - 0. (1950). Apparently it happened in 1993 as well which I dont remember at all
I watched the US ladies soccer team play and I reckon they could give the UK men a run for their money.

I also remember when the US beat the Brits on University Challenge aka College Bowl.
I will say that lots of US popular culture is quite dire. Commercial Radio/TV things like that

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 1:11:02 PM   
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It's boring as hell to watch, there's no action. 



Here's a spot of cultural education for you..........

Entertainment is only one half of the story of English football.

First and foremost, the attraction of English football is the opportunity to put your weight behind your town/city. It's not really about the football - people who follow their team around the country will spend a fortune getting to matches, taking out loans etc to watch their team get hammered week in week out - and will keep going regardless. 

Secondly, the style of English football is a reflection of how we see ourselves - committed, loyal, fair - these are the traits we value, so providing these traits are exhibited in the match, we will be entertained. It's well documented that while the continental Europeans prefer to see flair, we prefer commitment.

To the untrained eye, it may seem boring; to those of who take pride in our towns/cities and like our sport full of commitment, it'll do for us.

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 1:24:28 PM   
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I hate the way people in the UK look down on Americans and think of them as uncultured.  It's total rubbish and its great to finally be able to prove it.


There are hosts and hosts of fabulous, sophisticated and 'cultured' people who live in the USA. Many amazing writers, painters, medical types, architects, people trying to advance out world in a healthy and loving way. I lived in the USA for 13 years and I would say by and large more of those people were amazing than not.

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 1:25:05 PM   
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Entertainment is only one half of the story of English football.

First and foremost, the attraction of English football is the opportunity to put your weight behind your town/city. It's not really about the football - people who follow their team around the country will spend a fortune getting to matches, taking out loans etc to watch their team get hammered week in week out - and will keep going regardless. 

Secondly, the style of English football is a reflection of how we see ourselves - committed, loyal, fair - these are the traits we value, so providing these traits are exhibited in the match, we will be entertained. It's well documented that while the continental Europeans prefer to see flair, we prefer commitment.

To the untrained eye, it may seem boring; to those of who take pride in our towns/cities and like our sport full of commitment, it'll do for us.

We already have all that without soccer. I proudly watch my beloved Chicago Cubs year in and year out even though it's been a full century since they won the championship. And I get to do it at Wrigley Field which may be the best place in the whole world to spend a few hours with your clothes on.

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 1:37:48 PM   
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We already have all that without soccer. I proudly watch my beloved Chicago Cubs year in and year out even though it's been a full century since they won the championship. And I get to do it at Wrigley Field which may be the best place in the whole world to spend a few hours with your clothes on.



Football will never in a million years take off in the United States.

In the same way, Gridiron will never make any inroads into our sporting psyche. It's just not us; not who what we are as a people.

The cheerleaders, the stoppages, the helmets etc are simply not what we want to see in a sport. There's a quote from a famous English football manager responding to a journalist which sums it up quite nicely, "if you want to be entertained, go to the fuckin' circus". Similarly, if you want women dancing around like divs, go to a lap dancing bar. In this country, it's a case of just get on the pitch and give it everything you have - no extras are required.

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 2:07:56 PM   
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Here's a spot of cultural education for you..........

Entertainment is only one half of the story of English football.

First and foremost, the attraction of English football is the opportunity to put your weight behind your town/city. It's not really about the football - people who follow their team around the country will spend a fortune getting to matches, taking out loans etc to watch their team get hammered week in week out - and will keep going regardless. 

Secondly, the style of English football is a reflection of how we see ourselves - committed, loyal, fair - these are the traits we value, so providing these traits are exhibited in the match, we will be entertained. It's well documented that while the continental Europeans prefer to see flair, we prefer commitment.

To the untrained eye, it may seem boring; to those of who take pride in our towns/cities and like our sport full of commitment, it'll do for us.


I don't need an education; I understand completely.  We have that here, it's called baseball.  It's also boring as hell to watch.  Trust me, it takes a lot of commitment to pay the outrageous prices for tickets to go to a baseball game.  After you pay that much, you then get the fun experience of paying 5 bucks for a cup of beer.  The stadiums know they can get away with it, because you need alcohol to make watching baseball a fun experience. 

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 2:12:05 PM   
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Also what is that gigantic tape measuring device all about?

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 2:15:09 PM   
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Oh? You meant the American players?

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RE: Twenty Two Amazing Americans - 5/28/2008 2:34:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes LE, I did mean the US team.  I think they should be commended for striving to be a part of the world's greatest game. I also think it's easy to be passionate about football if, like me, you had the foresight to be born in Europe, Africa, Latin America or anywhere else that the Beautiful Game flourishes.  It's much harder in a country where games are structured around commercial breaks and so restricted from flowing for longer than a minute or two.

OK, tonight's game was less than momentous: the US are game but not gifted and England phoned their performances in.  But if it hadn't been a friendly, with nothing at stake ... it might have felt quite different.

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Dont you mean a squad of 11 ?


No.  There were 22 in each squad, with a team of 11 on the pitch at any one time.


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