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empresschaos -> RE: ISMaster ALWAYS right? (10/26/2005 6:47:56 AM)
And, to Padriag, she told him that if her feelings didn't count then she wanted out of the contract. Not that if she had to live in the house she wanted out of the contract. It seems like the house is one thing, but being ignored on an issue like that when she is relocating to a different country away from any and all support networks might indicate some deeper issues. If a sub is going to move across an ocean for a Dom, the sub has every responsibility to make sure that her best interests are being considered, too.

wolfinside -> RE: ISMaster ALWAYS right? (10/26/2005 7:25:35 AM)
I may have missed this, but have these two met in person yet? Or is it an online thing only so far? Have they lived together yet? Have they spent time together in the same town dating for a few months even? If not, then all of this is a bad idea in my opinion. I think it is unwise for people to jump into bdsm relationships in a way they would NEVER do so in a vanilla one. Would a woman be considered wise to send money off to a vanilla guy she had never met in person or lived with etc for a house etc? Wolf

perfection20005 -> RE: ISMaster ALWAYS right? (10/26/2005 7:54:33 AM)
Not unless it was in the contract that you have specific rights.

stormie -> RE: ISMaster ALWAYS right? (10/26/2005 7:57:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Padriag You're not going to like my answer, so feel free to stop reading now and skip it. Still reading... good. You're being a brat. Here's why. First, if you want out of your contract with him all you need do is say "I'm out, seeya" and that's it. You're in the US, he's in Italy and there is no law in the world that says you have to stay in that relationship... if you want out, walk, period. But you should already know that. What you are doing is coming to a forum and asking others to excuse your behavior, to justify your behavior so you can do what you want, force him to do what you want and get away with it without having to feel guilty for it.... not gonna do that dearheart. What I will suggest is that you stop an think about this. He wants that house, and I'm assuming he's spending his own money. If that's the case, its his money, he can spend it on any damn thing he pleases. As for you living in the house, is this house so aweful you feel its a deal breaker for the relationship? In some cases it could be, if its a roach infested junk heap I could see a lass having a problem with that. On the other hand if its a decent house, but just not the color or style or size you like... you're being a brat. A slave chooses to be with her master to serve him because she chose him, not because of the house he lives in. Do you want to be with him for who he is, or his house? If the house really is that much of an issue, you're in the relationship for the wrong reasons and I'd suggest you take a long hard look at your own values. Houses come and go, they can be remodelled and redecorated, they are temporary things... but that relationship ought to be permanent and based on the person you choose to be with. Don't let temporary things get in the way of that relationship. This one agree's with Padriag Not much more to say for I can see many others that have gave some great advice. so will just sit and read.... PS: Padriag You have such Great Wisdom, I always come to read and have been watching Your postings. I just wanted to say thank you for giving such Wise Words and knowledge to many others. stormie

Kinkypupper -> RE: ISMaster ALWAYS right? (10/26/2005 10:30:46 AM)
Everyone has a different opinion on what a "slave" is and is not. MY opinion.. NO you do not have any rights but your opinion and feelings have to be taken in consideration by me, That is my own set of standards to myself.

plantlady64 -> RE: ISMaster ALWAYS right? (10/26/2005 12:15:03 PM)
Hello tiggeress2, You say quote: After much argueing I said that if my feelings dont realy count I want out of my contract.He refuses to do so and tells me im acting like a brat.So is a master always right. Doesent a slave have any rights? Unfortunately in my opinion NO! To me where we live, how we live, and decisions that affect our household are his to manage how he sees fit. If you look at the history of slaves you are actually lucky to have a Master that allows you to voice an opinion for his consideration. But a good slave behavior dictates His Word Is Law and it's his Kingdom to do with as he feels he should. He could just tell you on Friday such and such a date be ready to move, not tell you another thing about it, and be well within acceptable rights as he is the MASTER RIGHT???? If you had a no move clause or must approve clause in your slave contract that's the only time you'll be able to leave without it being you that did not fulfill your duties in my opinion. I'm not saying I'm not sorry for your distress, I actually wish you well. You ask and while it's not what you want to hear in my heart it is the only correct answer I can give. Sincerely, sub suzanne

plantlady64 -> RE: ISMaster ALWAYS right? (10/26/2005 12:22:14 PM)
quote: smilezz says <koffbullshitkoff> Way To Go Girl!! LOLROTF, That's just too cute!! sub suzanne

Kasia -> RE: ISMaster ALWAYS right? (10/26/2005 12:35:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FLButtSlut Picking up and moving to a whole different country is a HUGE move. Indeed it is. I moved to another country to be with my man too, the country I had no relatives or friends in and didnt know one word of the language. And I was 37, not easy age to change life and learn all the new things. I went to live with him in horrible little apartment and due to his job I was alone all week long. Spent 3 years like that - only place I went to was a nearest selfservice, only people I had any contacs with were virtual friends. But, I love him and that is all that really matters to me...... I would go anywhere and live under any conditions to be with him. A year ago I found a job, 3 months ago we moved to new flat, 2 months ago we bought a new car..... life is getting better. I work like a mule now, gained lots of RL friends here and am quite happy. If one truly wants something in ones life, one will find a way to make it through hard times. Takes a lot of patience though.

girl4you2 -> RE: ISMaster ALWAYS right? (10/27/2005 9:33:43 PM)
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FangsNfeet -> RE: ISMaster ALWAYS right? (10/27/2005 10:29:12 PM)
To be a Slave or not to be a Slave, that is your right. What is it going to be? Though a Master my not always be right, you still have to question yourself if you are willing to make the sacrifices needed to be happy with him. We Doms and Masters are not always 100% right but we still do are darndest to do what is best for our slaves and subs. It's a leap of faith for you to trust him. Without knowing your financial situation, I would suggest that you make plans on visiting the states every few months to help with the home sickness. So he said your feelings don't count. I'm guessing that was said more out of anger than actual logic and thought. But either way, if you want out of your contract then get out. It's not like he can sue you for breaking a Master/Slave contract. He can stay in Italy and whine with his wine for all I care. Either way you go, it has and will always be your choice.

Wildfleurs -> RE: ISMaster ALWAYS right? (10/28/2005 4:12:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tiggeress2 My Master and I are to be married. We are buying an apt. He wanted to but it togeather. But I am in the states and he is in italy where we will live.He was supposed to waite for my return. But now he fond one he likes. After see pic's of it I do not like it and cannot see my self living there full time. It would make a great summer place. Master is bent on buying it.After much argueing I said that if my feelings dont realy count I want out of my contract.He refuses to do so and tells me im acting like a brat.So is a master always right. Doesent a slave have any rights? If you are a slave then no you don't have the right to act up because you don't like the apartment. So basically in looking at the responses, I agree with Padraig. I will say though that I do think that whole "Master is always right" always just sounds a bit sophomoric and short sighted. What I've found more helpful is that my owner may not always be right but he is always the one running things and making decisions. C~

Padriag -> RE: ISMaster ALWAYS right? (10/28/2005 9:39:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs I will say though that I do think that whole "Master is always right" always just sounds a bit sophomoric and short sighted. What I've found more helpful is that my owner may not always be right but he is always the one running things and making decisions. I think when many people say "Master is always right" what they really mean to say is "Master should always be obeyed." The OPs Master may very well indeed be making a mistake and buying a house that is... for example, too small for their needs, that is certainly possible. But even it that were true (and we don't know, we know nothing about the house), it can always be sold at a later date and another house purchased... it would not be the end of the world.

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