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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 2:45:23 AM   
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Amazing how you did not answer my question.

Now, enough is enough.  We have ventured far enough from the original topic.  You have made yourself abundantly clear.  This ends here.  Draw whatever conclusion makes you happy, but this ends here.

Period.

End of Sentence.

End of Discussion.


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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 2:58:30 AM   
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Hmmmmm skipping Post 5 entirely, which should be fairly self explanitory lets review for comprehension this time:

The key is to belittle for the right reason, and to know who to belittle and who not to and it sounds like the posters BF doesnt know that difference or have that reason.
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However, on the original topic - as I said there are people you shit on and people you dont and those you are in a relationship with fall into the latter category. People, who may be a complete prick for legitimate professional reasons still need to know whos important to them and who isnt and to treat those who are properly. There is no excuse for what this guy with the "nice car and stable job" is doing to make his partner feel so inadequate. Its destructive and unhealthy and nobody should tolerate it in a relationship.
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But again, that doesnt carry over to relationships. Unless, the person is in fact a fuck up, in which case you cut them loose because nobody should be in a destructive relationship that leaves them doubting themselves. They is a lid for every pot, its a matter of finding the one that fits well. Dating isnt life and death....
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However, the original poster isnt going through that shes dating and if she has to ask if she is being mistreated then she is. A healty relationship doesnt leave you wondering if you should be in it. Thats how I knew to divorce Laura... The morning I woke up saying "what the fuck am I doing with this crazy ass bitch" I knew it was time to see the lawyer.

Clear now sweety??? Good girl...

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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 3:02:54 AM   
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Cutekansasswitch.....what we have here....is an example of why belittling is a bad idea.  It's crude, crass, and counterproductive.

I will urge you not to allow yourself to be on the receiving end of it.


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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 3:06:11 AM   
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In the animal kingdom, the male is pre-programmed to make displays of dominance, as demonstrated clearly in most recent additions to this thread.  A peacock does not fan his tail feathers because he thinks its pretty but to appear larger and menacing to other males, which in the world of pea fowl is also attractive to the peahen.

My first reaction to your question is that the relationship has focused entirely on the physical.  You like his job and his car.  How does he display his affection?  Is it also physical?  How does he show you that he cares?    If he lost his job and they repo'ed the car, would you still want a serious relationship?  i'm asking these questions because you gave specific examples of how you feel diminished but no specific examples of how he is affectionate.

You may want to calmly, respectfully, but firmly let him know that his behavor is not attractive to you and that you cannot thrive in an environment where your opinions are dismissed as unimportant.




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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 3:11:25 AM   
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That wasnt for you Celtic, or the original poster, and my apologies if it appears it was... It just worked out that way because you posted in between.

As for the question I didnt answer I dont know what it was? Whats diminishing about being a Marine? Nothing at all - thats why we Navy types own the Marine Corps and give ya'll rides wherever ya need to go and even let ya'll attend our Academy...  

I do agree with you in that she shouldnt take it and have been saying so since post 5... However, I do feel that rough treatment has its place - just not in relationships...  

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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 3:16:36 AM   
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quote:

I do agree with you in that she shouldnt take it and have been saying so since post 5... However, I do feel that rough treatment has its place - just not in relationships...

Fine.  Enough. STOP


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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 3:18:58 AM   
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1. I asked for help
Anybody who wants you to succed, employer, colleague, friend, relative, will try and help you in some way
Anybody who wants you to fail, should not be in your life.

2. We were having a conversation about credit. I told him about a couple of shiesty companies. He said "I really didn't need to know that" and I felt all embarassed and stupid.
Some detail is missing here, however did you tell him how he made you feel ... Why didn't he need to know that?  Does he have financial problems/issues, did he already know about these companies or ?

Is he even being rude or am I too sensitive/ overreacting?
The two of you, at this evolving early stage, need to find away to communicat that is effective for the two of you.  I has to be positive, and clear.  This does not exclude conflict or opposing view points.  It should be away of you to deal with what ever creates difficutlies between you that can't be perceived as being rude, or ellicite a negative reaction.  If this is a relationship you both want it has to be at least in this context equal.

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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 3:40:25 AM   
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I am always amused when people ask for opinions about relationships, because they seldom take it.
People who generally ask for opinions are really only looking to vent.  After you give advice, go back and ask if they have changed anything.  Generally they will say something to the effect of, "oh, no, it's okay now.  I got over it," or "they apologized".
That's why I never discuss current relationships.

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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 3:55:22 AM   
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I am always amused when people ask for opinions about relationships, because they seldom take it.
People who generally ask for opinions are really only looking to vent.  After you give advice, go back and ask if they have changed anything.  Generally they will say something to the effect of, "oh, no, it's okay now.  I got over it," or "they apologized".
That's why I never discuss current relationships.


Yeah and unlike a lot of the other posters here, I can't automatically assume someone is rude or an asshole from limited information.  Some people are just dry and matter of fact in their communications with others.  One negative character trait does not make someone a bad romantic partner. 

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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 6:26:28 AM   
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Only you know this man well enough to make a decision on the level of his rudeness.  Some people just aren't "people persons."  People like that just aren't very good at communicating with others.  It doesn't always make them rude.  They just don't truly understand other people.  As you said, I doubt he realizes he's being rude.  I have known many people like that.  I have a really good friend that I have known since I was a teenager.  He's like that.  He says rude shit to people all the time.  I know he doesn't mean to do it, that's just the way he is.  He doesn't do it to me or his other close friends.  The only people that can put up with him are sarcastic pricks like me. 
Your friend sounds alot like him. This guy openly admits he's not a people person, but he does have a group of friends he hangs with so he's not antisocial. I think he lacks relationship skills. I'm the second relationship he's had in his entire life and the second person he's had sex with. He's really refreshing in a lot of ways because he doesn't have much baggage like most people (including me).
When you deal with people like that, you need to speak up.  If you feel embarrassed or stupid, then you need to say so right then and there.  I'm not telling you to be a bitch about it, but you need to be assertive.  If you hold in all that frustration, you are eventually going to blow and release it all in one moment of rage.  That's a never a good thing.  When he cuts you off or belittles something yous said, then you need to follow up immediately with feedback to let him know you don't appreciate it.  I use sarcasm when I do it.  You can make your own decision on how you choose to deal with it. 
Actually, I did stick up for myself. Came down on him pretty hard too because this isn't the first time he's done it.

I can't tell you whether or not you should stay with him.  Only you can make that decision.  If you really love him and you want to try, then you have to stand up for yourself.  No one can make you feel stupid.  Your feelings belong to you.  You don't have to let him or anyone else make you feel bad about yourself. 


Great advice. Thanks again.


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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 6:41:55 AM   
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I wouldn’t even begin to make a judgment of your relationship based on a few comments. But I can give general advice.

Be sure he respects you. I don’t mean opening the car door or buying presents, I mean respects your intelligence and insight on life. There is much more to intelligence than understanding the confusing world of credit.

He may love your looks… and your feel… the sound of your voice… but if he does not respect your mind …YOU… will have problems respecting yourself.

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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 6:50:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

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I am always amused when people ask for opinions about relationships, because they seldom take it.
People who generally ask for opinions are really only looking to vent.  After you give advice, go back and ask if they have changed anything.  Generally they will say something to the effect of, "oh, no, it's okay now.  I got over it," or "they apologized".
That's why I never discuss current relationships.

He did apologize. But that doesn't mean what he did is ok. He knows it's not ok and not to do it again.

Yeah and unlike a lot of the other posters here, I can't automatically assume someone is rude or an asshole from limited information.  Some people are just dry and matter of fact in their communications with others.  One negative character trait does not make someone a bad romantic partner. 

He is rude sometimes, but he's not an asshole. In fact, he's far from it. Ways he's shown he cares include wanting to introduce me to his friends and go places with me (he would never consider keeping me a secret from anyone), taking me out to dinner, lots of physical affection, and telling me he loves me to name a few. He's experienced when it comes to d/s play, but very inexperienced in relationships. It's ok that he's dry and matter of fact. He just needs to learn that in a relationship, he needs to think before he speaks. I'm hoping he learns from this experience so we can have a successful relationship. I'd like to thank everyone for their advice. It's good to know I didn't overreact.

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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 7:35:05 AM   
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There is so totally not enough info in the original post for me to make assumptions. Honeslty, all you told me was he said, "I dont need to know that" And "I cant believe you dont understand that".

Ive probably said stuff like that. It doesnt mean anything other than, take it within the context of a day. Catch me at the wrong time and I might say in annoyance, "I cant believe you dont understand!". On a good day I might say it in a way that could even come off as loving and kind. So if I were you, I wouldnt race off and dump the relationship based on these two lines.

Now, if theres other things that happen that make you sense it isnt working or you dont hit it off, then yes, trust your gut. But no one should ever toss away something that's decent based on a possible bad day. Good luck to you. xo Sophia

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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 9:15:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cutekansasswitch
He is rude sometimes, but he's not an asshole. In fact, he's far from it. Ways he's shown he cares include wanting to introduce me to his friends and go places with me (he would never consider keeping me a secret from anyone), taking me out to dinner, lots of physical affection, and telling me he loves me to name a few. He's experienced when it comes to d/s play, but very inexperienced in relationships. It's ok that he's dry and matter of fact. He just needs to learn that in a relationship, he needs to think before he speaks. I'm hoping he learns from this experience so we can have a successful relationship. I'd like to thank everyone for their advice. It's good to know I didn't overreact.


I've been reading this thread debating on whether to bite my tongue or throw in my $.25 worth.  This post decided me.  You likely aren't going to enjoy reading what I have to say - in fact, it may well piss you off (along with a whole slew of others) but I'm not going to bother sugar coating things to spare someone's sensabilities.  All opinions expressed herein are strictly my own - take 'em or leave 'em at your own choice and/or risk.  (And now that the obligatory disclaimer is out of the way... )
 
What unrealistic sentamentalist horsehocky, suggesting ending a relationship based on a couple of isolated sentences that none of us even know the true context of!   "I can't believe you don't understand" - what Tone of Voice did he say this in? What was the context of the statement - what sort of thing were the two of you discussing, how far along in the conversation was it, and what else was being said/going on that you did Not include? That's something you didn't bother to mention in your post - and yet tone of voice, facial expression, general body language, and contextual setting - all of those type of clues tell a person the Intent of something spoken by another.  And let's take "I didn't need to know that" - the other single sentence uttered by him.  What was the Overall Context of the entire conversation?  General?  Random conversation? Asking a specific opinion concerning the subject matter?  How long had the conversation gone on, and what sort of permutations  had it gone through?  Was your anecdotal commentary perhaps irrelevant to the context and other content of the conversation?
 
Now - you were asked for and provided a few of his "demonstrations of affection".  All well and good, but let's examine Those as well, shall we?  He shows you lots of physical affection.  What does that mean?  Holding your hand, putting an arm around you, or kissing  in public?  Good sex?  Physical affection can take many forms.  And the term can mean a lot of different things - as can the actions involved - based on perspective.    He takes you to dinner.  Is that a means of affection, or simply a subconscious means of showing you  - like the car you're fond of, and the 'good job'  you like him having - that he can Afford you?     He has no qualms about introducing you to his friends.  Has he shown any qualms about YOUR friends, whether that's meeting them or hanging out with them instead of "his" friends?     He Tells You He Loves You.  This one made me flat out roll my eyes and have to supress a gag reflex.  Talk is cheap and lies are easy.  Just because someone "says" that they love you doesn't prove one blinkin thing - except possibly that they know you Want to hear it, and it will potentially make you overlook other problem areas or that it will potentially get them what they want.  None of this is said to discourage you from continuing a relationship with him - or to discourage you from potentially deepening that relationship.  It is said with the earnest desire that you examine things a bit more realistically, rather than through the rose tint of romanticism and fantasy.
 
You go on to say that he is experienced in d/s play, but not relationships.  What do you mean by "d/s play"?  Are you refering to SM and Bondage games sexually?  Or are you refering to Power Exchange games?  The two are by no means the same.  D/S - dominance/submission - power exchange - cannot Exist outside of a relationship of some sort where there is some component of trust and mutual respect, even if that relationship is short term and heavily negotiated. (As in a power exchange that takes place strictly within the confines of a single dungeon scene.)  SM, whole different matter, and if you play in a public dungeon where there are others to moniter and potentially step in if something goes wrong, doesn't even necessarily require really Knowing the person you're playing with much less having some sort of personal relationship with them.  D/S is a Relationship Style in my book - so I find it difficult to comprehend how someone can be "experienced" at D/S yet Inexperienced at Relationships.  (Though someone being experienced at d/s and inexperienced at Sucessful relationships is easily understandable.)

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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 12:37:18 PM   
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I am amused.  As I knew I would be.
Apparently everything is okay now, huh?
He's apologized and everything is okay in the world.
You didn't really want advice, did ya?
Let's all be honest here.


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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

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I am always amused when people ask for opinions about relationships, because they seldom take it.
People who generally ask for opinions are really only looking to vent.  After you give advice, go back and ask if they have changed anything.  Generally they will say something to the effect of, "oh, no, it's okay now.  I got over it," or "they apologized".
That's why I never discuss current relationships.

He did apologize. But that doesn't mean what he did is ok. He knows it's not ok and not to do it again.

Yeah and unlike a lot of the other posters here, I can't automatically assume someone is rude or an asshole from limited information.  Some people are just dry and matter of fact in their communications with others.  One negative character trait does not make someone a bad romantic partner. 

He is rude sometimes, but he's not an asshole. In fact, he's far from it. Ways he's shown he cares include wanting to introduce me to his friends and go places with me (he would never consider keeping me a secret from anyone), taking me out to dinner, lots of physical affection, and telling me he loves me to name a few. He's experienced when it comes to d/s play, but very inexperienced in relationships. It's ok that he's dry and matter of fact. He just needs to learn that in a relationship, he needs to think before he speaks. I'm hoping he learns from this experience so we can have a successful relationship. I'd like to thank everyone for their advice. It's good to know I didn't overreact.

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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 4:35:19 PM   
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I gotta hand it to ya MissS, you called it earlier...

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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 9:00:48 PM   
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what are you handing to me?

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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 9:50:06 PM   
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what are you handing to me?


LOL well as nice as you look in that bra and panties I can think of something but you probably dont want to be handed that because as popular as I am around here you would probably pull it off and I do intend to use it again.

So Im going to go with kudos for your prediction of the outcome of this thread way up in post 28...

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RE: rudeness or oversensitivity - 5/31/2008 10:09:41 PM   
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Its not usualy hard to predict these outcomes. I wonder sometimes if people post stuff like this AFTER the fact to validate what they already decided or did and then wait a while to toss in the outcome that already happened.

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