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RE: Smoking - 6/2/2008 11:24:57 AM

slaveboyforyou

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I find it interesting that while you will often offer insight into people's addiction processes that you seem determined to be a enslaved to your addiction to nicotine.

I am not judging you for that...I just find it interesting.

I have no emotional investment with you...so I don't care if you smoke or not.
But for someone that I did have an emotional investment with I would encourage them to quit...
and I can't be around it (asthma).

I offer advice on addiction, because I have went through it. As much as people want to compare it, nicotine addiction is not the same thing as being an alcoholic or a junkie. You are not going to wake up in jail wondering why you are there from smoking. I don't know if you've ever been to an AA meeting, but everyone smokes in there and drinks cup after cup of coffee. In fact quitting smoking is discouraged at rehabs.

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RE: Smoking - 6/2/2008 11:34:06 AM

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True, you won't end up in jail...but second hand smoke is not good for the people around you...
so what you do is still having a negative impact on others.

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RE: Smoking - 6/2/2008 11:39:34 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

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I find it interesting that while you will often offer insight into people's addiction processes that you seem determined to be a enslaved to your addiction to nicotine.

I am not judging you for that...I just find it interesting.

I have no emotional investment with you...so I don't care if you smoke or not.
But for someone that I did have an emotional investment with I would encourage them to quit...
and I can't be around it (asthma).

I offer advice on addiction, because I have went through it. As much as people want to compare it, nicotine addiction is not the same thing as being an alcoholic or a junkie. You are not going to wake up in jail wondering why you are there from smoking. I don't know if you've ever been to an AA meeting, but everyone smokes in there and drinks cup after cup of coffee. In fact quitting smoking is discouraged at rehabs.

Nothing like exchanging one addiction for another...... almost as humorous as the old "recovered" alchoholic I knew years ago that "needed" a bottle of Nyquil a day. Not to mention the smokes....

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RE: Smoking - 6/2/2008 2:26:47 PM

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I smoked for 10 years to help me deal with stress. I quit cold turkey and have been smoke free for almost 6 years. It wasn't willpower that made it happen. It was simply that when I moved in with the woman who is now my wife, I had better things to do. After 3 days, I found a pack of cigarettes I had bought in the middle of the drive to her house. I threw them out the window on my way to a job interview.

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RE: Smoking - 6/2/2008 5:32:06 PM

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My longest quit was 12 years. Then I started again, and was off and on for another 3 years. I recently quit again and am somewhere around my third month. I stopped counting the days a long time ago and just put it behind me. I'll never be done being vulnerable, but I can tell you that it does get easier--and as hard as it may be to believe this, there will come a day when you wake, go about your business, then suddenly realize you haven't even thought about a cigarette all day. I think sometimes the anticipation of the quit is worse than doing it. However, when you finally make it out of the woods, you'll most likely consider it one of the greatest accomplishments of your life.

As you touched on yourself, it's about wanting to quit. People who have been successful at quitting are no stronger than anyone else. It's only a matter of wanting it badly enough. You may try to quit several times before you succeed, but eventually you'll tire of going a few days clean then letting yourself down by lighting up again.

Don't try alcohol again until you feel strong enough to do so, because not only will it make you crave the butts more, but it will lower or eliminate your "give a shit" level.

And yeah....it's not just tobacco. There are about 4 thousand chemicals in cigarette smoke. Try arsenic, carbon monoxide, acetone, and formaldahyde on for size. There's a reason why hard core smokers look like street junkies. Your oxygen is carring all those deadly poisons throughout your body all day long. This was a huge motivating factor for me. Every time I took a puff I imagined my blood stream carrying these toxins throughout my otherwise healthy body. I just couldnt justify it any more. For what? Something that I imagined as "Enjoyment"?   Wait till you can smell a rose bush a mile a way, and get an idea of what coffee really tastes like. Wait until you can shake someone's hand and not leave a smell on them, wait till your clothes don't smell, and you don't have to be conscious of having smoke breath and chewing mints. Wait till you're standing online at the post office or the grocery store and a smoker gets in line behind you and you know right away from the nasty odor that they smoke, and you say to yourself "holy shit, is that what people used to smell when *I* walked by?
Even if you could somehow know that you would never get cancer, it's still a detriment to your health and the quality of your life.  Whether its the money that motivates you, or your health, or the way you look and smell, there is nothing beneficial in smoking.
It's a whole new world with newfound freedoms when you are no longer enslaved to the addiction. If you're going to stop, you should do some reading on some of the feelings you may experience while going through the withdrawal process. It helps if you know what to expect and all the changes that your body is readjusting to.

Good luck on it, whenever you are ready.

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RE: Smoking - 6/2/2008 5:52:02 PM

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I quit smoking after I began hitting 3 packs a day on my drinking and/or poker nights. After I quit cold turkey, I never went back to it. I never quit drinking on the weekends, however (though I'm beginning to give some thought about giving up booze altogether now too).

These days, it would be even easier to quit smoking without giving up drinking... since the bars are all smoke-free now (in my area anyway).

It would prove difficult for you to quit smoking primarily because you believe it's difficult. If you make up your mind to quit, want it bad enough, and you believe in yourself... you will quit. No question about it.

After you've accepted the truth of this concept, go look at yourself in the mirror. Look into your own eyes, and say out loud "Termy (or whatever you call yourself in real life), you're done smoking. You've had enough. You've had your last cigarette today. No more. You're stronger than cigarettes. End of story."

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RE: Smoking - 6/2/2008 6:12:30 PM

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About 6 years ago, I was a smoker. I enjoyed it. I was defensive (let's be honest .. I was addicted). My little girl crawled into my lap and said "Papa, I love sitting with you, even though it makes me wheeze."
I've never had another cigarette. My taste buds are more sensitive, my smell is much sharper and my whiskey and wine tastes much better. My method .. cold turkey and self control. I have no other secret.

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RE: Smoking - 6/2/2008 7:01:43 PM

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I made the mistake of going to pick somebody up and deliberately leaving my smokes at home. There are hideously bad drivers out there and normally I will talk to them in a very low voice. "You planning on turning with that signal, Sugar?" I almost came unglued. I had a womam jump out in front of me and make a left turn without a signal. I was screaming, "You dumb mf twit, you get that license from a gd Cracker Jack box?"

I do that almost every day and I've never smoked.

Traffic in Atlanta sucks.

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RE: Smoking - 6/2/2008 8:49:01 PM

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I used beef jerky and cigars to quit smoking cigs, then weened myself off the cigars, till I have one or 2 a week.
You can also grow your own tobacco...and make your own beer...or meade.

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RE: Smoking - 6/2/2008 9:08:20 PM

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Anyone having to choose between Gas and Smokes?

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RE: Smoking - 6/2/2008 9:12:18 PM

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Smoking is hazardous to your health. Smoking with
gasoline fumes present, even more so.

(punctuation edit)

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RE: Smoking - 6/2/2008 9:25:18 PM

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I have smoked off and on, while stopping for 9 years cold turkey. Started again for stupid reasons. Now, I am seriously thinking that this must stop as Daddy hates it, but knows that it has to be up to me; the Things hate when I smell like smoke (I never have smoked in the house - but on my ride home from work); and my brother just died Sunday morning from a very agressive form of lung cancer from smoking about 30 years. It doesn't make sense to continue, but I know it's all in the timing and in the desire to stop.

I wish anyone going through the cessation process the best of success.
DRH

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RE: Smoking - 6/2/2008 10:08:37 PM

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Termy8or, i smoke almost as much as You do, and i'm not making anywhere near what You are. i'm NOT quitting; f**k it. i've tried everything out there, including cold turkey, and i've been smoke free for as long as a year, but i never stopped wanting to smoke. i'm not living in deprivation like that.

There are 'net sites that allow You to buy smokes for much less than the corner store...beware of the ones selling Russian made cigarettes...i doubt they're any good. Call the cigarette company that manufactuers Yr brand and ask which state now has the lowest tax on cigarettes and google that state for a 'net vendor. i have heard Mastercard won't allow itself to be used to buy cigarettes, but i think it's just an urban legend.

Whatever You finally decide to do i hope You continue to place a premium on enjoying Yr life...not depriving Yrself of everything fun in hopes of reaching some ridiculous old age.

That's just my opinion.

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RE: Smoking - 6/3/2008 12:07:11 AM

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~ Fast Reply ~

I smoked off and on (usually on) for a long time. A little over four years ago, one of my favorite people in life since I was little - one of my uncles - was diagnosed with lung cancer. At first they said it was terminal and untreatable. Then they said they would remove a lung, as it was all in one of his lungs.

So they removed a lung. Two days later his body went into shock and he was in a coma for about a month. I would go to the hospital every day on my way home from work, and sit in ICU and talk to him. I couldn't pick up a cigarette after that - it just seemed so disrespectful to me.

Miraculously, he survived the ordeal, although he's never been the same.

My Master forbids me to smoke. Period. End of story. I had quit just a week or so prior to us first talking, but he made that clear from the start. I'm glad for that, as his rule prevented me from lighting up again in the worst of times.

My close friend and I marvel now, at how just a few years ago we'd sit around, smoking and watching TV. Now we're out bike riding and playing tennis. Okay, Okay, we still look like asses on the tennis courts, but the point is that we're out there, and feeling good!

I applaud anyone who puts forth an effort to quit. It's hard, it's very hard. But it's doable, and if you can hang in there, you won't regret it.

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RE: Smoking - 6/3/2008 5:55:03 AM

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Stuff likes this makes me seriously reconsider my choice not to sell tobacco products... I could retire off people's bad habits if it weren't for my damn conscience...

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RE: Smoking - 6/3/2008 7:00:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: Padriag

Stuff likes this makes me seriously reconsider my choice not to sell tobacco products... I could retire off people's bad habits if it weren't for my damn conscience...

kind of along the same lines....I never cease to be amazed by the number of clients I have who cannot afford to pay their rent or buy food and clothes but smoke a pack a day. When I used to be a smoker that was the luxury that always disappeared first when I needed to save some money.

edited to fix typos....damn you fingers, damn you to hell!!

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RE: Smoking - 6/3/2008 7:04:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Term, ciggarrettes are $23.00 a carton here in S. Carolina.
Rent a big truck and make some money.

Time for a road trip.....

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RE: Smoking - 6/3/2008 8:35:30 AM

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Actually for me it is the money. And pink, I could care less about an extra year of life, in 2012 I won't be able to buy regular light bulbs so I'll be 52 and I'll have to remove all my light dimmers and put regular switches in. What my favorite things costs will undoubtedly outstrip my resources. I am not exactly in a growth industry, which is my impetus for starting CHI. This may or may not happen. But maybe I need to because I see no opportunity for advancement in what I am doing now. I am already at the top of the scale. I mean to the point where I am allowed to smoke at work, they risk a big fine doing that. Anyway, it's also the slow season and I am not making what I should right now.

And someone said smoking won't get you thrown in jail ? HUhu huh I dunno bout that because I would surely refuse to pay the fine. If it was assessed to me that is. If it was assessed to the boss I doubt he would try to make me pay it. Even though no other employees smoke, some associates do and he allows it. Maybe it would be paramutual lol.

Smoking bothers some people but not others, I am probably one of the latter. My Parents and Aunts and Uncles almost all smoke or smoked and there has been no lung cancer or anything of the sort. Actually we have problems with our eyes and that may be a valid medical point as there are alot of small cappilaries involved. It is known that smoking affects those.

Life extension, I couldn't care less. I have seen enough of Man's inhumanity to Man that I can take it or leave it, but I will not do anything foolish, other than smoke that is.

I gotta go. Thanks. BBL

T

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