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RE: The dreaded "forced" word in forced-bi. A... - 6/4/2008 11:40:37 AM   
Wheldrake


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There are two different sides to this kink.  There are those who willingly, graciously engage in this activity.  In these cases, the term 'encouraged bi' is probably a better fit.  These are the cases where one will happily engage in this activity with the right Dominant woman.  There is no struggle or inner turmoil on the part of the submissive.  These are the types who can embrace the fact that he is a sexaul creature.  One who is commanded to participate in this task.  He does so for the reasons that the Domme has decided that she wants him to.  Whether it is for her own arousal, entertainment, or just because it's Tuesday.

The other side of that coin is something that is more of a 'forced' variety, but it is within the submissive.  There's internal struggle, especially with his *manhood* because he has been raised in a society that hasn't yet moved forward enough to realize that being bi shouldn't be any different for him, as it is for his female sub counterparts.  He will submit to the activity, but the Domme in question must be ever watchful for the fallout.  Emotional insecurity, guilt, shame.  None of which is warrented, but happens in some cases. 



If we're trying to come up with new terms, "bisexual service" or "bisexual performance" might work for the first type of activity. I really can't think of a phrase for the second type that's better than "forced bisexuality", at least assuming that the impetus for the activity comes from the dominant - in other words, she's commanding the submissive to struggle with his inhibitions, rather than just being there to observe a struggle that he initiated for himself.

Forced bisexuality is something my Mistress and I talk about from time to time, though we've never actually tried it. From my point of view, the attraction is almost masochistic. The bisexual encounter would be (I imagine) a basically unpleasant and disconcerting experience, so I like the idea because I like being subjected to unpleasantness by a sadistic woman. Also, if the other male were dominant over me in the context of the scene (if she just offered me up to a gay dominant male, for example, and sat back to watch him have his way with me), I would be taking orders from someone for whom I felt no sexual attraction whatsoever. I've never had that happen before, and it would be interesting to see what it was like.

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RE: The dreaded "forced" word in forced-bi. A... - 6/4/2008 11:42:30 AM   
Wheldrake


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**Apologies for accidental double post - stupid browser!**

< Message edited by Wheldrake -- 6/4/2008 12:39:33 PM >

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RE: The dreaded "forced" word in forced-bi. A... - 6/4/2008 8:08:03 PM   
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I agree with your point that just because a sub enjoys being told to engage in an activity, it is not devoid of dominance and submission. For some people, it is not the activity itself but instead the thought of being told or ordered to do so. I think you are onto something. Perhaps the word that is used--forced--causes the confusion and discussion.

I wonder if instead of the word forced, using instructed, ordered, or dictated would lessen the confusion.

Cheers,

Sea

< Message edited by undergroundsea -- 6/4/2008 8:09:02 PM >

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