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quote: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush and his top policymakers misstated Saddam Hussein's links to terrorism and ignored doubts among intelligence agencies about Iraq's arms programs as they made a case for war, the Senate intelligence committee reported on Thursday. The report shows an administration that "led the nation to war on false premises," said the committee's Democratic Chairman, Sen. John Rockefeller of West Virginia. Several Republicans on the committee protested its findings as a "partisan exercise." The committee studied major speeches by Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and other officials in advance of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, and compared key assertions with intelligence available at the time. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080605/pl_nm/iraq_usa_intelligence_dc

Vendaval -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/5/2008 3:33:01 PM)
Yes, the policy dictated the intelligence reports, not the other way around.

Bethnai -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/5/2008 4:30:39 PM)
So, well there we have it. Its official. Bush is a lying whacknut.

kittinSol -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/5/2008 4:46:19 PM)
The informed portion of the planet knew this five years ago, unfortunately [>:] .

celticlord2112 -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/5/2008 4:56:25 PM)
Oh wow....a Democratic committee decided just before the election that Bush "misused" intelligence. Are we supposed to be shocked and awed? Edited to add: How many of those Senators voted for invasion? How much blood is on their hands?

Leatherist -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/5/2008 5:12:07 PM)
It's going to make it really hard to justify supporting something based on a known lie. Mcain has an uphill battle ahead.

SugarMyChurro -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/5/2008 5:17:16 PM)
This was all planned since at least late 2001. Everyone wanted blood...Shrub got carte blanche. [:(]

MmeGigs -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/5/2008 5:44:36 PM)
What bemuses me about this is that there were people asking questions about these things before we got into the war in Iraq. Congressional intelligence committees were complaining that they had no access to the intelligence. Everyone assumed that we'd kick ass, but what was the plan for stabilizing things and getting back out? Is this something we really want to take on with so little international support? Shouldn't we take care of the job in Afghanistan first? Are we making ourselves vulnerable by spreading ourselves too thin? How are we going to pay for this? For a number of reasons, the news media failed to look into those questions or report much on the concerns. The folks expressing concerns were pretty much told to sit down and shut up, and sometimes were accused of being un-American or even of aiding the terrorists. I pretty much ignore any complaints of partisanship from either side. Both D's and R's will do things from time to time for purely partisan reasons, both accuse the other side of partisanship way too often. Neither appears to remember the "Boy Who Cried Wolf" story. Partisan exercise or not, it's important that we dig into what happened. We-the-people need to know where we screwed up. It was our job to ask questions and expect answers, and we didn't do that. We need to know how we were maneuvered into this so that we can be a bit more skeptical next time.

kittinSol -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/5/2008 5:53:11 PM)
Great post, MmeGigs.

cpK69 -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/5/2008 8:22:00 PM)
So, on the outside, it looks like they want the people to believe; the liars told the liars some lies, then the liars turned around and passed the lies off to the people as truth. Seems to be par for the course; if you listen to liars, that is. Otherwise, it’s just another scene in the show that is becoming rather boring due to predictability. The only thing I’ve yet to figure out, is what they believe is over there that is so important they must have it. No, sorry, I’m not buying the oil story anymore. Nor do I believe this has anything to do with helping “the people” of Iraq. Looking at the world map, the place is a waste land, so poisoned with its own thinking; the shit is oozing out its eyes, nose and mouth. Of course, one could put their hope into the next generation elected president, (looks like the people are being set up with Obama, who claims he will start bringing the troops home 16 mo after he is in office), except, if the reports about planet X are true, by May of 2010, there is a strong possibility the people will be too busy worrying about other things, to care about that anymore. Here's hoping.

meatcleaver -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/6/2008 1:02:58 AM)
I wouldn't say Bush misused intelligence, he actually lied! Blair too. If the critieria for the Nuremburg trials were used, both would be on trial now for war crimes.

SugarMyChurro -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/6/2008 1:49:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MmeGigs Shouldn't we take care of the job in Afghanistan first? What job? I opposed that invasion/occupation from the first also. Charlie Wilson's debacle... [:-] "We're going to get [Bin Laden] Dead or alive, it doesn't matter to me." - Shrub, 12/14/2001 "...Terror is bigger than one person..So I don't know where [Bin Laden] is..You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. ...I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him." - Shrub, 3/13/ 2002 ----- The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word 'war', therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist. - George Orwell, 1984 The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. - George Orwell, 1984

SugarMyChurro -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/6/2008 2:22:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver ...both would be on trial now for war crimes. Hope springs eternal on that one.

FullCircle -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/6/2008 3:19:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level quote: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush and his top policymakers misstated Saddam Hussein's links to terrorism and ignored doubts among intelligence agencies about Iraq's arms programs as they made a case for war, the Senate intelligence committee reported on Thursday. The report shows an administration that "led the nation to war on false premises," said the committee's Democratic Chairman, Sen. John Rockefeller of West Virginia. Several Republicans on the committee protested its findings as a "partisan exercise." The committee studied major speeches by Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and other officials in advance of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, and compared key assertions with intelligence available at the time. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080605/pl_nm/iraq_usa_intelligence_dc Olds not news http://olds.yeehaww.com/S/&M/numbernumbernumber/plan-m/eyerack.

Irishknight -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/6/2008 3:52:02 PM)
I am offended that you people keep using "Bush" and "intelligence" in the same sentence.

farglebargle -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/6/2008 3:58:15 PM)
If Martha Stewart can go to prison for lying WHILE NOT SWORN UNDER OATH, why can't Bush? That's right, because he is literally above the law, like all other dictators. All the brave Americans who died to keep America free? Their sacrifice was WASTED as long as the Bush Gang are immune from the Law. Good thing they replaced all the "Few Good Men" at the DOJ with other Loyal Bushies, eh?

Termyn8or -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/6/2008 9:32:20 PM)
Suga, that was one good post. If I think of something I'll be back T

Nosathro -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/6/2008 9:50:01 PM)
Vicent Buliose (Misspelled) the Mason Proscuter has recently written a book on why Bush and the White Staff should be indicated for this. Those who reviewed it say it would be an effective blue print to charge them...now if some would.

farglebargle -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/7/2008 1:53:37 AM)
Not going to happen. There's no-one left at the DOJ with any honor or integrity.

subrob1967 -> RE: Bush Misused Iraq Intelligence (6/7/2008 5:06:56 AM)
Fast reply Yawn...Will you Bush haters get on with it already? Hell, he's been in office for SEVEN fuckin years already, impeach the Bastard, charge him with war crimes already, or just STFU. The whining is getting deafening around here, especially from those of you with no dog in the hunt (IE non U.S. Citizens).

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