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monaliza -> About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 12:38:00 AM)

I met a new Master here on CM for soon a month ago.
I told him from the start, that I wanted to go slowly and get to know the other. That was fine.
But he started to push me towards a decision. Slowly,increasing. He fell in love with me instantly.
I was slow at the start. I wanted to get to know him. He couldnt understand,that I said to him,
that I really liked him, but wanted to take it slow also. he got confused. He thought, sometimes
it just goes fast, that people can know each other for long time but not even then be able to work it out.
that there are no guarantees. things like that. It ended with,that I fell under the pressure, and couldnt
deny my feelings. But still... I refuse to be stupid.
well then he started to make demands and dominate online about everything. In some degree I dont bother.
We live in two different countries. We talk to eachother all the time. When hes at home from work, all we do,
is to sit and talk. and text eachother. From an early time he gave me his phone number,said i could ask him for
anything anytime. (no only got a cell phone number)
he has asked me to marry him. We havent met. The meaning is,Im going over seas to meet him in a near future.
But for that,we need money. With my former, I sort of rented myself to some, and thats on the line again, but
more proffessional this time,but only for some time,until i got some savings for moving and such.
I dont mind nothings there.
But,he wants me to get a joint account together with him,when we meet. I dont know the details. But the plan
is to save money that way because of me moving. but isnt that strange? almost all my expences is going to be
at my country. ( I will make a lot of money)
What do you say about this?
I f I say something to him, he gets upset. start to argue whether I trust him or not.
Or,tries to calm me at first.
he also wants me to get a hotel when there. because he wants to be with me, and its two hours drive,from the apartment where he lives. he has a house,that has tenants,where were supposed to live later.
(its a M/s relationship and with control about everything including money)
I dont say, i dont trust him, i say I havent met him yet, and that there are a risk.
But I know,that he wouldnt take it that way.
Also, when I express my thoughts. concerns. It wont take long,before he says, ihave said that ten times,
and when it camed up about weight, and I said that i thought my former that wanted to change me into a barbiegirl werent right, he then said that he took that as a threat or warning.
and said do you have a problem with that and that he could do whatever he liked. that was not what I ment.
we have had similar discussions before, where he didnt understand me and sort of did like this in different manners.
then he only says he corrects me. but he know, I dont mean that way. Is that to misunderstand at purpose?
I dont think thats fair. sort of like he doesnt want to hear,what im saying. or what do you think?
that has nothing to do with that he decides or not or can do what he like to or not
The love between us well I hope its real. but I do have common sence.
Please,tell me your view on this.





MasterFireMaam -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 1:16:37 AM)

You already know the answer, you're just not listening to your gut. If you're not completely comfortable with these things, DON'T do them.

Master Fire




eyesopened -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 2:09:57 AM)

Watch two days (4 episodes) of Judge Judy.  Pick any two days, it doesn't matter.




Usako -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 2:35:56 AM)

If you had common sense you wouldn't even be in this situation.

On line guy, never met, only gave his cell number, lives in a totally different country, instantly falls in love, wants to marry you but won't even let me meet him at his home...how many red flags does it take for common sense to kick in?

I have nothing against long distance romance but this is just...sigh.




wet4youruse -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 2:43:54 AM)

run away from him as fast as you can,he is after your money ,honey.




willowspirit -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 3:06:56 AM)

I just got done writing an email to a probable (?)  Dominant man, where I explained that I figure it  would take a couple of YEARS of people being a Dominant / submissive couple before a submissive should even considering  to petition Him to accept her/him as His slave.
Years!
And that's if the submissive feels that T/they mesh on All Levels of getting along together!
So... sounds like this person wants to "rent" you out to earn money for him to put in a bank account over there! ??? Master is NOT the same thing as a PIMP !

No, no, no, no no. no, no ! And I though I was gullible !!




monaliza -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 3:08:21 AM)

Me how Im earning my money,im comfortable with. About not meeting at his place, he claims to be single, his explanation for not meet at his place was,
it was to hours drive and if we only met for a weekend, it would take to much traveling. Shall I meet him at all? Or shall I lay pressure at him, saying Im
coming for some days,more than just a weekend at then theres no use to not go to his place?
If I meet him, how would I act to avoid me letting him get us a joint account? how am I going to discover him,IF hes not telling the truth,and only goes
for the money? (chance is that he doesnt and chance he does, chance is he is alright and chance is not.
how do I get his adresse information without him misunderstanding me or getting upset?
What can i say or do,to discover hes a fake or not? especially about the money. he could be okay he also could not.




monaliza -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 3:12:33 AM)

Well the idea was, that to save some money for my relocation over there. and to get started. he doesnt wants me to do it all the time,not
to interrupt my every day life. He said that was the idea. for my relocation.




Focus50 -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 3:16:14 AM)

You've never even met yet he's ready to marry you?  Immature at best and definitely a red flag!
 
And he wants you to travel to his country but stay in a hotel some *TWO HOURS* from where he lives....????  That's one red flag too many - time you listened to your instincts; the ones telling you he's NOT to be trusted.
 
Ahhh, and it's your first post - welcome.  :-)  In case you don't know, "red flag" is like a DANGER or WARNING sign - ignore at your own peril....
 
Focus.




KatyLied -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 3:34:55 AM)

Are you actually planning on relocating to be with someone you've not yet met?  I suggest you slow down a bit.  And about giving him your money?  Don't be stupid.  Sheesh.




orfunboi -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 4:18:10 AM)

You met him online a month ago and he is in a different country....

And your not sure if you should pack up and go marry this idiot?

Your 36 years old. How did you get this far?

This is really a joke right? Ya ok, ha ha




BDOMsecret -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 4:30:01 AM)

To me, he sounds like a control freak, not a master.  Perhaps there is a little bit of a language barrier with you two being in diferent countries.  But...  as to the money...  there is NO reason you cannot save the money to relocate yourself.  I do not understand the need for a joint account, unless he wants access to the funds.

I believe becoming someone's sub or slave should take time.  I do not think the Dominant/Master should push the sub/slave to make a decision she/he is not ready to make.

Only a cell number or work number?  I have seen with others, many times, its because the wife will answer the home phone.

His home is a two hour drive?  Thats not far at all, considering you might want the two hours to get to know each other. 

When i read your post, i see signs of mental abuse already.  That is scary.  I also think it is a BIG no no to meet someone at a hotel (as opposed to a public place with other peopel) for a weekend, where he could do anything to you and leave you damaged.

Good luck.




monaliza -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 4:34:42 AM)

No, Im trying to keep my sences clear,and hes trying to catch me in. Can you demand youll see his home?
No,thats what h e thinks I will do, just marry, but I WONT.
and no,not even moving until I know him. but, hes trying to convince me.




monaliza -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 4:44:49 AM)

about the money, he said he liked the control, it was for relocating, and that hes said to me,that he also wanted control over the money from
the first time-true-but I didnt thought it would be that early.  Im not clear over,why he should have access. or is it a way to control a joint account?
to see,if he actually would heave the money? he never said anything about access,just the control and need for savings.
But all the costs will be on my part,IF it ever would go right.
can I use that to stop him get the money,IF everything against this and that turns out to be fine?
or as safety against that form of abuse.
Oh,he bragged about how in love with me he is,that he follows his gut and just do it.
claims to be singe,shall I demand all papers around that thing?
No I said to him too,thats not far,two hours. he claimed it to be taking time from the time we have together,that it was why.
BDOMsecret, what kind of abuse do you see?




RavenMuse -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 4:57:03 AM)

you claim to have common sense... the fact you are taking this joker seriously at ALL rather contradicts that fact. More red flags than a field full of poppys. It takes face to face time to build anything worth trusting in, you are being carried away by an online fantasy.... that maybe what he is doing to... if so that ain't a good trait in a Dom... if it isn't then there are far worse reasons behind it.




BDOMsecret -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 5:13:06 AM)

Dismimssing your thoughts and concerns.  Pushing you to decide.  Accusing you of not trusting him when you say something to him. 

I believe communication is imortant, and i would have a hard time talking to someone that always went off if he didnt like what he heard.

Perhaps i just have issues from past experiences.  Perhaps i am reading too much into it.

What country are you in, and where will he have you move to?




gypsygrl -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 5:14:23 AM)

You need to excercise common sense.  This other person you're involved in is giving you plenty of reason not to trust him.  Particularly his pattern of emotional manipulation.  My advice: steer clear, lock down your psychic doors and windows, and secure your valuables.

Or, you could say, ok, but insist on putting the account in your name only cuz, like, he trusts you, right?  I mean, seriously...




Dnomyar -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 5:18:55 AM)

You people are being played with. [sm=doh.gif]




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 5:20:09 AM)

my opinion doesn't really matter since i'm not the one in this situation. however i've been in this type of situation before.

he loves you, wants to marry you, move you to where he lives and controls you from afar though not meeting yet. and i get this feeling that you love him, want to move to where he lives, and submit to his control (financial dominace included) despite not listening to your own gut feelings and abandoning common sense. then you say the love between you two is real but he doesn't want to hear what you have to say. that's not my idea of love.

you have two choices - abandon your common sense and ignore the red flags and run away marrying this guy you've never met or simply end the relationship and walk away.

if this was me - i would choose the latter option.

good luck.




monaliza -> RE: About new Master,advice (6/6/2008 5:23:37 AM)

Oh,your very right in that point.. I am really fighting to stay clearminded.  I have asked him,what he would do,if it turned out to be "just a  fantasy". he was soo sure,it wasnt. "sometimes,logical sence makes no sence..I just trust my instincts,and go for it",thats what he said.  The hardest things are that if youre not thinking of all this, he really is wonderful. online.
fantasy.. that only makes me thinking of, that he wants me to loose weight. we have discussions about that. well at first, I decided to do that for myself,before he ever got into the picture. its not bad. but som pounds. He says, he accepts me, and doesnt wants to get rid of me,if it doesnt succeed.  But hes pushing.  He likes a flat,totally flat tummy. Even mentioned,what I would thought, if a tummy tuck operation,juust to get rid of the last fat,if not succeded! Discussion forth and back. ended with him saying the same as I did at first. And him making clear,he does what he does,end of story.  first, it was a question for me, then it ended like that.
everytime I try to talk to him about all the worries, he says that Ive mentioned it ten times already,and how long am I going to do that. Makes it to a trust or trust not question. But can you do that. hes turning around much of what Im saying, to something, I havent ment,said,thought etc.  then he suddenly says, he did understood me.
I guess, i should stay low.




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