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Termyn8or -> Reality check (6/6/2008 10:19:14 AM)
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Just back from reading how terrible it is for the Burmese government to accept foreign aid. People think they are stupid, but I do not agree. THEY DO NOT FUCKING LIKE US. Their government believes in true soveriegnty and doesn't accept help from strangers. Especially terrorists like the US government. Reality, check it. They want nothing to do with us and I do not blame them one bit.
And then there's the thread about cellphone tracking. Pros and cons all that shit, but the point is missed. Fifty years ago that discussion would have been very different had it been possible. The fact of the matter is that none of this surveilance for us, it is for them. They couldn't give a fuck less about us, don't their actions prove this ? If you think they care about us, how is the weather on South Mars ? That's where you must have been living. They care about themselves. Their actions are to keep themselves in power.
And this is nothing new, remember there have been sedition trails in this country. McCarthy was a double edged sword, first of all Communists are allowed to be Communists, they are just not allowed to try to subvert the rule of law in this country. McCarthy did nothing to prove any of them did anything of the sort, simply by belonging to a certain group, that group was assumed to have a purpose and that purpose was assumed to be subversive.
Now let's get real here, supposedly they were going to somehow take over and take away our American way of life. Our freedom and opportunities. Well look around, it is going on right now and it is the government doing it. And don't start on me DA and others about how much opportunity there is, I agree there is opportunity, but that is the opportunity that is left. Compared to fifty years ago we are not in good shape.
Let's have a look at the economy. Some people on here do have opportunities because we are educated. We see things differently. But there is a segment of any society that does not grasp technology nor those other things that give some of us the leg up. But they are willing to work, and work hard. They are not necessarily dumb, I know a couple. We can discuss politics and all kinds of issues and I find their viewpoints generally valid, not always, and when we argue a point we do it right. There is no yelling. But try to explain electronics to them and you lose them.
In the past there were jobs for them. Decent paying jobs in factories. Hot and sweaty but they paid their own way in the world, as was their ethic. Note the conspicuous use of the word 'was'.
So somebody doesn't want our dirty money, and that is somehow a crime ? I don't see it. What I do see is a trend in government that is taking away our LAWFUL right guaranteed by the Constitution to alter or abolish the government when it no longer serves the people's needs. Notice the conspicuous use of the word 'when'.
Wake up people, they got you in a whole different mindset now (those of you who aren't know who you are). In Burma, afte the aid "Let us help you rebuild" and in come the suits. Yup, I wonder if we'll be paying the workers ten or eleven cents an hour to build our two whousand dollar plasma TVs. Refusing aid is nothing new. At least to me. When my knees were bad I could have easily qualified for social security, but the thought never crossed my mind, not once. Actually it did just now, but not back then. I do not want their money, and I will sink or swim.
Nobody wants to read that article I posted links to eh ? I see it applies more and more, but on a different level. It touches on the aspects of human populations but I don't think it went far enough.
I have drawn the following conclusion from life experience and alot of other things, about 43 years of it. Everything, and this is my conclusion :
As population increases individual rights must fade or be abated. I know this is far fetched but I say that individual rights are a common resource. Contradictory ? Ironic ? Yes. True ? Quite possibly. Think about it, even in a mixing of today's vernacular and circumstance with that of the past. Just a quickie because I have to go to work soon. If people still lived miles from their neighbors there would never be a loud stereo complaint.
So as we grow in number, we each get a smaller slice of the pie of individual rights. I had one sibling growing up and we would go stay the weekend at "the farm" where they had five kids. The freedoms my sister and I had at home did not exist there. That is not tyrany, that is facts, like "Get out of that tub, your time is up". Get it, facts of life reduced our personal freedoms in that environment. At home we could fall asleep in the tub if we wanted to, but decided we didn't like doing that for the obvious reason. It was a moot point there though. But then if we wanted to take a long bath after everyone else had, that was OK. Late at night when everbody else is asleep, you weren't infringing on anybody, unless they had to get up for a late night piss.
But during the day you have three adults and seven kids, with one bathroom. Do you see what I am getting at ? Individual freedom as a common resource that must be shared.
Try another aspect of this (DA should like this part), when the Wright brothers made their famous flight there was no licensing, no flight plan to be filed nothing of the sort. Why ? because they were the only ones in the air. Now with air traffic such as it is, you have to watch it lest you have a collision. You may be instructed to change altitude or course because of traffic. In fact there are a hell of alot of near misses that go unreported I heard. Why report them ? Almost only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades.
Fifty years ago there were states that did not even require a driver's license, why ? Because there were only ten people in town who had cars in the first place, collisions were rare.
So I think of people fighting against one another for rights, whether group or individual, as collisions. We are colliding with each other, not physically, but in another way. The divisions in our populations are natural, even if they are exploited by the PTB.
Look at the highway. A recent thread was about Hartford, the person got run over. Then was mentioned about the drivers there. (I am not fixing that) Tell them to come to Cleveland, they would fit right in here. Literally two seconds of their time is worth not only their life, but the lives of others. Any others who get in their way.
People will step on you to get to the top, and this has nothing to do with race or gender these days. In my view, a Man earns what he gets, and doesn't have to put someone else behind to get ahead.
Really, if someone is going too slow, pass them, but that is no reason to flip them the bird. Come on are we that infantile ? How is it that these people with the mentality of a three year old can get driver's licenses ?
And I believe that how they drive is reflective of how they manage their other affairs. Would that not be a fair assumption ? Tell me how.
People are the sum, and hopefully and then some, of their background. Today most of their influence has been by the media. That is a subject for a whole other post though. So what am I talking about ? I have no idea. I just wanted to throw this out there and see what yall think.
We bitch about the government all the time, but people are part of the problem as well.
And then we wonder why people are depressed and need to take drugs. Beam me up Scotty, there is no intelligent life here. (exceptions exist)
T
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