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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 6/28/2008 12:27:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I enjoy some of his stuff. When I first discovered his work I found it disgusting yet much of it I find erotic. Decide for yourselves: http://www.pornstargals.com/gals/maxhardcore0.php

I agree with TheHungryTiger. Nowhere in the article itself is there anything that says what political affiliations or religions were represented in the jury. Everyone has jumped to the conclusion that they were a bunch of right wing christian nutjobs. This is likely, but the jury could also contain liberal feminist extremists. We are relying on stereotypes, but we don't really know. Many of these jurors probably look at porn on a regular basis others think porn is disgusting. If they have never seen something as hardcore as Max Hardcore than they would be shocked by his stuff, and may decide that he deserves jail time, as well as banning.

I find the case disturbing. Max Hardcore has been famous for his brutal porno for decades. This is probably why he was the target. If he looses his appeal it could open up the door for many other obscenity cases. They will likely target BDSM porn sites and possibly communities. I would not be supprised to see them go after Kink.com next.

It seems interesting to me that whenever someone is censored they become even more famous. I imagine many people that had never looked at Max Hardcore porn are now surfing their browsers in his direction.

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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 6/28/2008 12:31:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just the other night I was trying to view Max Hardcore's website. He has a free tour on his regular website. I recently moved to Arkansas because I was offered an awesome job. When I clicked on one of his movies a button popped up that said I am not allowed to view this material in my current state. What the fuck. It seems Arkansas law enforcement have blocked his movies, but the pictures would appear. Also I found his stuff on another site. They seem to have done a pretty bad job of censoring his material. The scary thing is that they are able to control the content that I watch in the comfort of my own home.

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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 6/28/2008 2:12:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Are you trying to access his website on a computer owned by Arkansas law enforcement, or are you trying to get us to believe that the government of Arkansas is blocking access from your own personal computer at home?


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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 6/28/2008 4:22:37 PM   
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Are you saying that the state of Arkansas is blocking access from your own personal computer at home?

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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 6/28/2008 10:39:39 PM   
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And you are aware that the USSC struck down all bedroom laws years ago aren't you? Your cop's stories were just that, stories.


These stories could have some truth. I just moved from Las Vegas. Contrary to what I imagined when I moved there, Las Vegas does not have a thriving BDSM scene. The Las Vegas courts have persecuted several people that were in BDSM relationships for "domestic abuse." If you don't believe me just google it. Clubs are extremely careful also. BDSM clubs as well as raves have been repeatedly raided and are supposedly illegal in las Vegas. Meanwhile they are known as sin city, allow gambling, and turn a blind eye to prostitution. I know it is not Florida, but if the cases involve BDSM the charges are usually not antiquated bedroom laws, but rather trumped up charges of domestic abuse.

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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 6/28/2008 10:49:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

It wasn't that hard of a question.... 

Are you saying that the state of Arkansas is blocking access from your own personal computer at home?


That is what I am saying. It is possible that I am misreading the meaning of the error message. The error message was "this site can not be viewed in your current state." I interpret this to mean the state of Arkansas not my state of mind. It is possible that Max Hardcore is self-censoring in certain states due to his current court problems. Then again there is an obscenity unit of the F.BI. whose job is to monitor and shut down "obscene" pornography. Research it and you shall find some funny stuff. If the FBI is doing this I would not be surprised to find states getting in on the act. Note that the FBI spends most of their time on child porn cases, snuff, and rape porn.

I am going to go back and make sure this is a consistent error message when I click on his movies.

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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 6/28/2008 11:19:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

It wasn't that hard of a question.... 

Are you saying that the state of Arkansas is blocking access from your own personal computer at home?


O.K. it seems I was mistaken. There are only two movie galleries where the error message appears. All the other movie galleries work. The error message is strange but it probably has more to do with the site, that may be someone posting his work, and not the state. The exact error message is "this request is not valid in your current state." The movie scenes are anal, and there are other movie clips that work and depict sodomy.

The FBI porn squad is real though and might be worth another discussion even though it is very old news now, 2005. This mission of this section of the bureau is however much worse than I had remembered it.

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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 6/29/2008 7:15:33 AM   
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I would not be supprised to see them go after Kink.com next.
Mind explaining to me how kink.com can be charged with mail fraud when they dont actualy mail anything?

Or are you, like everyone else it seems, totaly ignoring the actual real danger that this case shows in favor of mindlessly repeating the 'miller test jr' line?


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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 6/29/2008 7:48:33 AM   
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O.K. it seems I was mistaken. There are only two movie galleries where the error message appears. All the other movie galleries work. The error message is strange but it probably has more to do with the site, that may be someone posting his work, and not the state. The exact error message is "this request is not valid in your current state." The movie scenes are anal, and there are other movie clips that work and depict sodomy.
After about 30 seconds of googling I found out that this is actualy a problem with IPv6 verses IPv4. From http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/mac/mp9/readme.aspx#ipv6

  • When attempting to play a file by using either the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) or the Microsoft Media Server (MMS) protocol, you may encounter the error "The request is not valid in the current state."

But hey, its just so much more fun to sprout off 'the closed minded prudes in alabama hate sex so much that they are blocking MaxHardcore' rather than spending 30 seconds with google to find out the truth? Aint it?


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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 6/29/2008 10:02:37 AM   
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But hey, its just so much more fun to sprout off 'the closed minded prudes in alabama hate sex so much that they are blocking MaxHardcore' rather than spending 30 seconds with google to find out the truth? Aint it?

Yes it is more fun. I had a blast. Seriously though I already admitted that I was mistaken about this there is no need to harp on it. Truly I did not realize that I could just google the error message. I am not as computer savvy as I would like to be. It seems obvious now. After all I would generally start with a google search for any other kind of research.

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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 6/29/2008 10:09:10 AM   
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quote:

I would not be supprised to see them go after Kink.com next.
Mind explaining to me how kink.com can be charged with mail fraud when they dont actualy mail anything?

Or are you, like everyone else it seems, totaly ignoring the actual real danger that this case shows in favor of mindlessly repeating the 'miller test jr' line?

I am basing this on the info that was in the link on the OP plus the info about the FBI Obscenity unit. There is nothing in the article given that says anything about mail fraud. It is possible you have done more extensive research than most and there is something to do with mail fraud. In the article in the OP it says that he is charged with 5 counts of obscenity not mail fraud. Add that together with the FBI obscenity units goal of taking out obscene material, not kiddie porn and I came to that conclusion. Of course you are disputing that as well, and you could be right that all the newspaper journalists at that time were just bad reporters, but it seems unlikely. I will continue this discussion where in the other forum.

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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 7/5/2008 8:38:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I love how people think "go about your business" is just going to SOLVE everything. Obviously it won't and simply saying that or saying "Look what the "bible-thumping assholes have done this time." as the original poster so..politely put it isn't going to help the situation. 

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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 7/8/2008 1:13:58 PM   
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http://www.avn.com/video/articles/30610.html

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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 7/8/2008 2:15:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry Sub Serious you must have misread the whole Article because although convisted it will be appealed and as it was not a violent crime he will not be placed in prison. In fact because of this tiral I am sure it will be appealed to the Supreme court and have the law changed.

The truth of the matter is your views on the man are also eskew as no woman has ever been his bitch that did not want to be his bitch. If you look into the mans Careere you will be surprised that for the last 5 years he hasn't had a casting call or sent for models because they all came to him. Many women use his movies as a buffer into the more mainstream porn because his movies show that the girl is usually willing to do anything that the script might call for.

Max/Paul might be extreme at times even by my standards but you have to respect the fact that he made an Empire out of calling women cock sockets and letting him do whatever he wanted to them and then had them coing back for more.

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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 7/8/2008 7:40:16 PM   
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Sorry Sub Serious you must have misread the whole Article because although convisted it will be appealed and as it was not a violent crime he will not be placed in prison. In fact because of this tiral I am sure it will be appealed to the Supreme court and have the law changed.
Also remember that MaxHardcore already went to the supreme court once before in 1998. His case was dismised when COPA was ruled as unconstitutional.

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RE: Paul F. Little/Max Hardcore Faces 100 years - 7/9/2008 8:58:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not to mention by the time it went to the Supreme Court Porn in General was Backed by the American Movie Association not because they agreed with porn but because the had to protect thier ability to make movies, if you allow descency to get involved in movies where Sex isn't okay how long until Murder isn't okay and when was the last time you saw a good action movie where someone didn't get killed.

Max World might take a serious Hit because as a Business Front I can see it taking a huge bask for the Transport of the DVD's and Content but Paul will be fine and will have to rebuild his entire industry which will allow him to repackage all his films under a new name essentionally making him MILLIONS!

The truth of the matter is when this is all said and done Max Hardcore will be better off because of this.

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