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solvr70 -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (9/16/2008 7:55:35 AM)
i quote: ORIGINAL: AcademyForSlaves Hi. I don't mind a guy liking that. But he better like licking pussy too!! ;) humm...the key to "liking that" for me is it being exciting for the Woman, as it is a Woman's body that is a work of art and gets my blood flowing. then being "insistant" about it all difficult to explain and do love licking pussy, strapon play, oral service in other ways, etc.

HotMistress22 -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (9/16/2008 8:59:14 AM)
Great question. I enjoy taking a sub male past his limits and forced cock sucking is usually on his list of "no way" tasks. But, when I do get him in such a submissive state, I totally get off on making him do the things he previously refused. It's a power trip for sure. Has nothing to do with homosexual behavior but the true breaking of a male ego and it allows him to prove his devotion to Me. Love it!

paulag -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (9/18/2008 7:47:06 PM)
Ive never seen two guys do that live before but it seems like it would be very entertaining

doxem2000 -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (9/28/2008 12:22:42 PM)
my Domme Friend just let me know Her 18 year old Daughter is also Dominant and has been reading Our emails discussing plans and arrangements to meet with Her Mother's Dom Friends. Domme had arranged with 3 Dom Men to meet and let me suck Them off for Her. It is a strange situation now that She knows and is making Her own plans too.

hairslave -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (9/28/2008 5:03:12 PM)
And i thought a sub lunch is having a sub for lunch! Sub sandwih that is. quote: ORIGINAL: subtex quote: ORIGINAL: RealSub58 I dont consider it forced bi but if that is what others consider it... who am I to know ...... Sir never calls it forced bi either thanks for the link When I saw this thread I liked that you didn't use the phrase "forced bi" because that always stimulates the debate as to whether it's forced or not, or if the sub is bi or homosexual or whatever. Clearly though the question you are asking is how many Dommes are into this. I've talked to a couple of subs that were complaining that all the Dommes they've been with were into it and it was a hard limit for them. We were talking about this at a sub lunch one time. We had all had Dommes who were interested in doing it. There were 5 of us. The guy who was complaining about it said he'd probably do it if he was married to the Domme. Probably some philosophical fodder there. So, in my limited experience it's not just something subs try to talk their Dommes into, there are actually a number of Dommes who like it. BTW if you're wondering what a sub lunch is, it was a failed experiment as an answer to a Domme lunch which all the Dommes love. Subs not so much. Oh and no we didn't have it at Subway. Bill

tweedydaddy -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (9/28/2008 11:49:17 PM)
Forced bi? You can't make a hetero male suck another man's cock, no matter what. The fact is that lots of men want to chomp on another penis, but can only do it with coded permission. It's a taboo and people love a good taboo. If it's a subbie you like, you ought consider the possibility that if they really get into it, they won't need you.

lusciouslips19 -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (9/29/2008 12:02:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweedydaddy Forced bi? You can't make a hetero male suck another man's cock, no matter what. The fact is that lots of men want to chomp on another penis, but can only do it with coded permission. It's a taboo and people love a good taboo. If it's a subbie you like, you ought consider the possibility that if they really get into it, they won't need you. Hmmmmm? good point there.

solvr70 -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (9/29/2008 8:01:14 AM)
ah, 'tis always difficult to explain this one. but the thread does seem to be pretty alive. the act would only be exciting if it was exciting to the Woman. there is a power exchange factor, a humiliation factor, a being a better bitch for Her factor, and a number of things i can't think of i'm sure. along the same lines as Her taking me with a strapon, but to another level. very, very difficult to explain. but T/those that understand it, understand it i suppose

stripmymanhood -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (10/4/2008 3:00:16 PM)
i totally agree with this sentiment...at least with manly men...i have enjoyed it only when it was directed by a woman...when i looked for it on my own, to see if there was really a change in my sexuality...it did nothing for me. quote: ORIGINAL: solvr70 ah, 'tis always difficult to explain this one. but the thread does seem to be pretty alive. the act would only be exciting if it was exciting to the Woman. there is a power exchange factor, a humiliation factor, a being a better bitch for Her factor, and a number of things i can't think of i'm sure. along the same lines as Her taking me with a strapon, but to another level. very, very difficult to explain. but T/those that understand it, understand it i suppose

hapistan -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (10/4/2008 3:18:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweedydaddy Forced bi? You can't make a hetero male suck another man's cock, no matter what. I dont see how thats possibly true, if i was to go out right now to wherever it is the nearest cottaging place is, then suck every cock I see, that wouldnt make me gay, surely sexual orientation is about a little bit more, like attraction, lust, love, etc than what you put in your mouth?

beargonewild -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (10/4/2008 3:20:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hapistan quote: ORIGINAL: tweedydaddy Forced bi? You can't make a hetero male suck another man's cock, no matter what. I dont see how thats possibly true, if i was to go out right now to wherever it is the nearest cottaging place is, then suck every cock I see, that wouldnt make me gay, surely sexual orientation is about a little bit more, like attraction, lust, love, etc than what you put in your mouth? Consider the fact that the actual act of a straight male sucking cock is a physical manifestation of an unconscious desire.

hapistan -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (10/4/2008 3:32:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beargonewild quote: ORIGINAL: hapistan quote: ORIGINAL: tweedydaddy Forced bi? You can't make a hetero male suck another man's cock, no matter what. I dont see how thats possibly true, if i was to go out right now to wherever it is the nearest cottaging place is, then suck every cock I see, that wouldnt make me gay, surely sexual orientation is about a little bit more, like attraction, lust, love, etc than what you put in your mouth? Consider the fact that the actual act of a straight male sucking cock is a physical manifestation of an unconscious desire. its certainly one of many possible explanations I accept that. but thats all it is, one of many. even if you take it up the arse it doesnt necessarily make you gay, bi, or even bi-curious. a lot of it is cultural attitudes too, certainly amongst friends in Paris (in their circles at least) straight blokes fucking each other isnt unheard of, especially if certain drugs have been on the menu. but anyway I digress, my point is surely theres not necessarily a rigid connection between a persons sexuality and the performance of a physical act? theres the party game "How low will you go?" you ask a question, say for example (though it can be anything) "would you fuck another man for a million pounds?" if they say yes, you then lower the amount, someone usually says no to the high bid, everyone laughs and calls him a liar to choruses of "a million pounds?!" i would! Its an extreme example of course but I'm sure most people would agree that in the unlikely event of such an offer being made to them, they'd do it and there'd be no thought of it being a gay act. so is it then impossible to follow that a man could do it as a display of submission and its not a gay act? christ, for a million pounds i'd go ass to mouth, just as a courtesy.

LadyPact -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (10/4/2008 3:47:51 PM)
I have two questions. First, can somebody please tell Me how the dollar is fairing to the pound these days? Second, in 13 pages of this thread, haven't some folks figured out that those of us who enjoy this being done for our pleasure, really aren't all that worked up about what possible subconscious psychological premeditations that a sub male might have? Especially if he had no idea that I was going to order him to do it. Ok, I lied. It's really three. Can we please just get back to the feel good thoughts about this thread topic?

hapistan -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (10/4/2008 3:52:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Second, in 13 pages of this thread, haven't some folks figured out that those of us who enjoy this being done for our pleasure, really aren't all that worked up about what possible subconscious psychological premeditations that a sub male might have? Especially if he had no idea that I was going to order him to do it. about $1.85ish last time i noticed, might even be stronger now. and you're right of course, but I can never resist wading in if i see rigid views that are just (to me at least) plain wrong. and the worlds a much easier and smilier place when there are fewer absolutes.

beargonewild -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (10/4/2008 3:55:52 PM)
Though I didn't state it is a rigid correlation between the actual act and a person's sexuality. Yet you have to seriously take into consideration that for the most part it does have a high viable influence. When you look at being under the influence of alcohol or drugs or both, these substances do lower a person's inhibitions. It is these lowering of inhibitions which many straight males are more willing to act upon desires which they normally wouldn't in a clean and sober state of mind. I just can't buy the fact that a straight male sub will voluntary suck cock. He will do so when his Domme tells him to do so, because of his desires to please her, because he is also acting under her guidance/training etc; which in itself a form of influence. Albeit, it's not a drug or alcohol induced but a mental and emotional conditioning which his recieved from his Domme.

LadyLupineNYC -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (10/4/2008 3:57:35 PM)
Thank you LadyPact. I do have such a slave, one who sees 'cock sucking' as a service to his Mistress and not about sexuality. When I once suggested that he look into this post is response was 'why bother? its a bunch of flame' and I think that's sad. Before meeting me, homosexual porn was the only form of porn he never watched, it was the fact that I am so interested in sexual power over him, his interest in deep degradation, and my interest in eventually having two boys (ideally both able to ‘dominate’ the other while also both submitting to me) that created a deep (if sadly yet unfulfilled) desire to explore this. He did write a ‘positives experience’ store a few weeks ago about a minor scene we did (I think it is called ‘a very lucky cuckold’) if anyone is interested in some of the emotions the experience brought out in him). But, yes, there ARE men who aren’t bisexual, aren’t homosexual, but just that submissive.

RealSub58 -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (10/4/2008 3:59:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Usako I think anyone who is REALLY straight wouldn't do anything with the same sex, no matter who the hell asked. If they draw that personal line for themselves and aren't attracted to something it's their right not to do it. Well there ARE alot of straight men who would do this for a fetish kink, just to see what it is like to suck cock. At the very least, I'd call a guy heteroflexiable if he is straight but takes on the task of having gay sex, even if it to please some owner. Always makes me wonder about guys who are looking for "forced bi" it doesn't seem very forced if they guy is looking for a woman to make him do it; the idea to be with a guy is obviously already in his head. Actually when I brought the topic up, I wanted to ask a male dom but decided on Domme's instead. I am really quite aroused when my Sir can get a straight guy to suck his cock for me. And no Sir wouldnt have gay sex. And Sir never forces them. But they come to our "party" knowing they might be asked to do so. And they come. [:D] But sucking cock is sex. Would my Sir suck another man's cock? When cows fly !!

RealSub58 -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (10/4/2008 4:01:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyLupineNYC Thank you LadyPact. I do have such a slave, one who sees 'cock sucking' as a service to his Mistress and not about sexuality. When I once suggested that he look into this post is response was 'why bother? its a bunch of flame' and I think that's sad. Before meeting me, homosexual porn was the only form of porn he never watched, it was the fact that I am so interested in sexual power over him, his interest in deep degradation, and my interest in eventually having two boys (ideally both able to ‘dominate’ the other while also both submitting to me) that created a deep (if sadly yet unfulfilled) desire to explore this. He did write a ‘positives experience’ store a few weeks ago about a minor scene we did (I think it is called ‘a very lucky cuckold’) if anyone is interested in some of the emotions the experience brought out in him). But, yes, there ARE men who aren’t bisexual, aren’t homosexual, but just that submissive. Push those slave boy's limits some Ma'am. [:D] Sir did and the straight male sub obeyed and did rim my Sir's ass. [:)]

hapistan -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (10/4/2008 4:25:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beargonewild Though I didn't state it is a rigid correlation between the actual act and a person's sexuality. Yet you have to seriously take into consideration that for the most part it does have a high viable influence. When you look at being under the influence of alcohol or drugs or both, these substances do lower a person's inhibitions. It is these lowering of inhibitions which many straight males are more willing to act upon desires which they normally wouldn't in a clean and sober state of mind. I just can't buy the fact that a straight male sub will voluntary suck cock. He will do so when his Domme tells him to do so, because of his desires to please her, because he is also acting under her guidance/training etc; which in itself a form of influence. Albeit, it's not a drug or alcohol induced but a mental and emotional conditioning which his recieved from his Domme. the term rigid was in reference to someone elses comment, ("You can't make a hetero male suck another man's cock, no matter what") not yours, please don't think i reckon you're that awful. fair enough if you can't buy it but i'd suggest you take into account social conditioning too, rightly or wrongly I get the impression that in north america they are a little bit less relaxed about it, I'm not saying in europe we suck each other off over morning coffee, but there are places and sub-cultures and cliques where its really not a big deal. incidentally, i'd argue that some drug/drug combinations don't so much lower inhibitions as utterly destroy them (and a good portion of the rest of the brain) i'm thinking in particular ecstacy with ketamine. now, back to the person who asked about the exchange rate; I'd probably do it for a million dollars too you know, couldnt guarantee the a2m tho. though everythings negotiable.

LadyPact -> RE: heterosexual males sucking cock (10/4/2008 4:30:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hapistan please don't think i reckon you're that awful. I'm not saying in europe we suck each other off over morning coffee, but there are places and sub-cultures and cliques where its really not a big deal. now, back to the person who asked about the exchange rate; I'd probably do it for a million dollars too you know, couldnt guarantee the a2m tho. though everythings negotiable. For some reason, I wasn't aware that "reckon" was a huge term in Europe. If there was to be cock sucking over morning coffee, I'd not only have to learn to drink the stuff, but might have to be looking at a visa. Edited for formatting. I happen to enjoy this subject.

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