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DanB2 -> new master needs help (10/30/2005 3:18:39 AM)

im a new dom/master want to learn from experienced ones please send me a message if u want to discuss or help me. dan




Evanesce -> RE: new master needs help (10/30/2005 10:02:50 AM)

What is it you're wanting to learn? Dominance covers a pretty broad area that simply cannot be covered in a few posts.




MstrHellsFury -> RE: new master needs help (10/30/2005 10:19:23 AM)

this seems to be such an open ended request...with no background information what-so-ever...new..meaning how long....well there's such a long list I could be going through here but...my bottom line question is this...what have you done for yourself in preperation for this position you wish to enfold...have you Mastered the art of self control...what is it within you that makes you so sure you can control another...with a glance...an expression...a gesture...a simple look...without any physical action toward them...( I know we all must start somewhere)...and you need not answer me directly through this medium...give the answers to yourself...


Fury




Padriag -> RE: new master needs help (10/30/2005 11:50:27 AM)

As others have said this is a very broad, open ended question. You may not realize just how much you are asking for (a person could write a book trying to answer that question). My advice, read through the threads on these forums, including the older threads, there is a lot of info contained therein that could help you get started.




Delvin -> RE: new master needs help (10/30/2005 2:43:32 PM)

Welcome Dan,

A refreshing note by someone new who wishes to learn. Some really good advice so far, is read the threads, read everything and anything you can get your hands on. Also by all means, ask questions, any question that may come up.

I will add... this is nothing about Anger. Ever. Though we all are human, and anger is an emotion we all struggle with at times, this life does not do well in Anger. This leads to abuse and leads to a chaotic destructic life.

As Master HellsFury mentioned, look at yourself and see what you have to offer others, your wisdom, your ability to manage yourself through the stresses of daily life, your ability to control impulses which reside inside you.

Once again welcome Dan

Bart

aka D




mistawiggles -> RE: new master needs help (10/31/2005 7:17:39 AM)

good day everyone i must agree with the post thus far, I am also a new master have been for about a year now and as one said you have to be able to control yourself, keep anger out of your discipline. I have found a great help to me is basically having a mentor that i can go to with questions, read everything i can find and apply what i read to what i want to accomplish. Most importantly just like your sub or slave learn from your mistakes




Kinkypupper -> RE: new master needs help (10/31/2005 10:09:52 AM)

You need to sit down with a few cups of tea and decide what your questions are first.
THEN ask them




Wolfie648 -> RE: new master needs help (10/31/2005 10:15:24 AM)

Noone has mentioned going to local events and/or munches. Most large metropolitan areas have one or more. If you are having difficulty finding them you will likely get a response by posting a thread about resources where you live, or go to some local fetish/adult stores (downtown is your best bet). There should be posters up and/or cards available of upcoming kink events.

Most locals groups have libraries that you can borrow books from but maybe not the best selection.

D (owner of j)




happypervert -> RE: new master needs help (10/31/2005 11:42:12 AM)

I'm wondering what made you suddely realize that you are a "master"? Others have commented on the vague question; perhaps you are just so inarticulate that you are unable to express yourself more clearly. But since the question was so vague it looked to me like maybe you decided to call yourself a master as a tactic to get your dick sucked and you're just looking for tips to pull off the act; after all, if you can't ask a more specific question it stands to reason that you have no clue about whether or not you are a master at all. Your profile only reinforces that impression.

The others have offered advice based on the premise you are what you claim. I'll suggest you forget about calling yourself a new master until after you get some idea about what that means.




OrlandoMars -> RE: new master needs help (10/31/2005 11:58:07 AM)

I would start by thinking about what it is that makes you think you have the right to call yourself a Master. I would also suggest that, regardless of whetehr it is actually true or not, you're profile makes you seem like a troll so I would go try again.




DanB2 -> RE: new master needs help (10/31/2005 12:24:10 PM)

Thanks for all of you who have posted replies so far. I see that calling myself a master is probaly wrong but as i previously quoted im new to this. I take offence from happypervert saying im only doing this to get my dick sucked, thanks to all of you who have posted helpful posts. I now realise my initial question was extremly vague. I would like to know if there are different styles. I know by reading subs profiles that there are many types of domination, was wondering if there are some that are better than others or some that require specialist equipment. I realise that domination is very oriented around the control of the subs mind do i need to read up on psycology or is best to experiment. Thanks again to all you who have posted helpful information.
Regards Dan




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: new master needs help (10/31/2005 12:34:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DanB2
was wondering if there are some that are better than others or some that require specialist equipment.

Asking if a style of domination is better totally depends on the context. For me, certain styles work miraculously, and others fall completely flat.

In the end, the style that works best with you will be the one that is most resonant and TRUE to who you are.

No special equipment needed however.
quote:


I realise that domination is very oriented around the control of the subs mind do i need to read up on psycology or is best to experiment. Thanks again to all you who have posted helpful information.
Regards Dan

The answer is "yes." You should educate yourself as much as possible and experiment slowly.

Above all be honest with what you can and can't do.




Oberonrex -> RE: new master needs help (10/31/2005 1:14:19 PM)

What LuckyAlbatross says is very good and well said. Read, explore, and find that which calls to you and works for you. If you like, drop me a line and I will be glad to suggest some books to read. I would do it now, but the library is on the top floor and I am in the basement, and am feeling lazy after a stress test. I will echo and emphasize what was just said: Be honest with yourself, both about what you want and the limits of what you can do. Experimenting blindly with anothers mind is NOT something you want to do.

My own recommendation is that before doing unto another, find someone to do unto you at least once. Observe styles at local events or venues, and attend munches and such to learn. Many good groups offer "classes" or seminars once a month on different topics, and will even bring in experts from outside the area. Take advantage of those opportunities, and if nothing is close, look at spending one weekend a month visiting somewhere that does.

Good Luck.




Padriag -> RE: new master needs help (10/31/2005 1:15:44 PM)

I'll second what Lucky advised and add...

quote:

ORIGINAL: DanB2

I see that calling myself a master is probaly wrong but as i previously quoted im new to this.

Only because you're still figuring out what a Master is... some use it as a title, some use it to describe a style of dominance, and in some places its what you call a young man. Its a good idea to know what you mean by something before you say it.

quote:

I now realise my initial question was extremly vague. I would like to know if there are different styles.

Yes there are different styles. And there are at least two ways to look at that question.
One way is to be very specific in which case you could say that every dominant has their own "style." That's probably not very useful to you however, except to point out you will at some point need to work out your own approach to things, and that's alright.
The other way is to be very generalized, in which case things can be put into some broad categories. Some examples...
Some are only interested in fetish play without engaging in power exchange dynamics.
Some only want limited and conditional forms of power exchange.
Some want a complete a power exchange as feasible.
Some want service only, which doesn't include sex.
Some just want a sex slave.
Some want a combination of services (service, sex, companionship, etc.)
Some include a loving relationship as part of what they do, others do not.
Some want pets (in a literal sense, treating their slaves as animals).

So the question then becomes, what appeals to you, what are your goals, what kind of relationship do you seek? Once you sort that out, you can start sorting out what "styles" will be helpful in achieving those goals.

quote:

I know by reading subs profiles that there are many types of domination, was wondering if there are some that are better than others or some that require specialist equipment.

Some things, like pony girl play, will require specialized equipment (tack and harness, sulky, etc.) and although technically a fetish, its complex enough that it could also be considered a style (there are plenty of people who build their relationship around that one fetish, which makes it both a fetish and a style of relationship). Puppygirls are another such fetish, though requiring far less in the way of specialized equipment. For simply dominating someone, all the tools you really need come from within you.

quote:

I realise that domination is very oriented around the control of the subs mind do i need to read up on psycology or is best to experiment.

Yes... it can be very helpful. I've personally found reading Alfred Adler, B. F. Skinner, A. H. Maslow to be particularly useful, as well as John Maxwell for improving my own leadership capabilities. But it is a good idea to read broadly, you never know where you will find useful ideas... I still keep my copy of the Boy Scout Field Book for a variety of reasons (knot tying, rope work, etc.). There's also a number of authors who write within the lifestyle you might want to look into such as John Warren, Jack Rinella, Guy Baldwin, Dossie Easton and others.




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