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Vendaval -> RE: "Is Google making us stoopid?" (6/12/2008 10:49:36 PM)

I think how we learn new information is changing.  Part of the issue here is quality and quantity, another is tradition. [8|]



pinksugarsub -> RE: "Is Google making us stoopid?" (6/13/2008 12:05:23 AM)

i've experienced changes in my thought processes -- even dreaming -- under certain circumstances.  Before i went to law school, i had been keeping journals for almost 20 years.  Actually writing in a book about my thoughts and feelings, almost daily.  i also knitted, sewed, and did cross-stitch.  By the time i took the bar, i couldn't do any of it.  Too much 'being taught to think like a lawyer' -- i completely lost touch with my creativity.
 
Fast forward to today. i was always a voracious reader. TV wasn't enough to keep me occupied, so i'd watch a show and read at the same time. 
 
i tried books on tape -- big yuck -- and 'e-books' -- even bigger yuck.  i want to hold the book, turn the pages, and dogear where i left off. There's something about the tactile experience of holding an actual book that i need.
 
i don't think the 'net has 'made me stupid'; i've learned a vast amount from it.  Legal research was completely transformed by the 'net, especially by sites like Lexis and WestLaw.  If i had to go back to the law library to do research now i'd just cry -- it takes 1,000x longer.
 
The 'net will only 'make Y/you stupid' if if Y/you forego books and movies and the like for games, gambling, and such.  How A/anyone can spend hours playing with strangers in a 'virtual world' is beyond me.
 
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~loxias/odchoice.htm
 
pinksugarsub
 
 



Level -> RE: "Is Google making us stoopid?" (6/13/2008 3:37:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Griswold


Level, I'd just like to say, I appreciate your posts.

You always post to get people thinking....and you never inject your opinion (and while I appreciate that...I would respect you much more, if you, beforehand, got my opinion...and then expressed it as your own)....moreover, you post all the pertinent facts, along with the links (unlike me, who's far too lazy...who just links up....and expects everyone to link to and by virtue, understand my prose).

Now...on to the topic at hand...no, I don't think we're being dumbed down...

(But I do think far too many people presume Wikipedeia (sp?) among other sites, provide a far too finite proof of what is...and...I suspect they believe what they read).

Too often.



Thanks, Gris, I appreciate yours, as well.
 
And I agree with you, while the internet is a wonderful source of information, there is a lot of misinformation out there, too.
 
An aside: I do realize "stoopid" is not a correct spelling [:D]; the cover of The Atlantic had it spelled that way, so I followed suit, even though the article itself did not. Oy.



FirmhandKY -> RE: "Is Google making us stoopid?" (6/13/2008 4:46:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub

How A/anyone can spend hours playing with strangers in a 'virtual world' is beyond me.


You mean ... like, you know ... posting in CollarChat forums?  [:D]

Firm



pinksugarsub -> RE: "Is Google making us stoopid?" (6/13/2008 4:51:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real_Trouble

This same sort of article was written about TV in the past, and radio before that, and blah blah blah.

I've read "culture is falling apart, everyone is stupid, and our young people suck" essays from the ancient greeks, for crying out loud.  People who genuinely want to read books will find time to read books; people for whom it was a low value activity will fail to read them.

I use the internet for reading blogs, arguing with people on forums, and harassing my colleagues and friends with inappropriate emails.  I've still managed to find the time to read several thousand books (mostly non-fiction) in my life already.



LOL.
 
Ancient Greeks, huh?  i'd love to read one of those essays.
 
pinksugarsub



Lucylastic -> RE: "Is Google making us stoopid?" (6/13/2008 4:57:13 AM)

I have a number of e books that I havent even touched yet, cos fiction I find really hard to read sitting at my desk, its a comfort thing, I have to curl up with a book to get into the storyline.
Online I find I can do research and technical stuff  much easier, it sinks in better and I retain info.
So while I can spend literally 18 hours a day online(work and play) and read all kinds of weird and wonderful stuff, reading my books is a creature comfort I will not do without.
Lucy



pinksugarsub -> RE: "Is Google making us stoopid?" (6/13/2008 5:03:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub

How A/anyone can spend hours playing with strangers in a 'virtual world' is beyond me.


You mean ... like, you know ... posting in CollarChat forums?  [:D]

Firm



No Firm.  It's an evolution in gaming, from what my UM tells me. No more playstation -- now Y/you go online and find a game, build a character, and 'interact' with the characters of O/other P/pl.
 
But then i never even understood the appeal of those big video games where the little icon ran around, munching up dots.
 
pinksugarsub



TreasureKY -> RE: "Is Google making us stoopid?" (6/13/2008 5:35:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub

... Y/you go online and find a game, build a character, and 'interact' with the characters of O/other P/pl.


Ohhh... you mean like going online, finding the CollarChat forum, picking a screenname and building a profile, then interacting with the screennames/personnas/characters of other people?  [;)]



Asherdelampyr -> RE: "Is Google making us stoopid?" (6/13/2008 5:42:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub

quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub

How A/anyone can spend hours playing with strangers in a 'virtual world' is beyond me.


You mean ... like, you know ... posting in CollarChat forums?  [:D]

Firm



No Firm.  It's an evolution in gaming, from what my UM tells me. No more playstation -- now Y/you go online and find a game, build a character, and 'interact' with the characters of O/other P/pl.
 
But then i never even understood the appeal of those big video games where the little icon ran around, munching up dots.
 
pinksugarsub


there are quite a few differences between your standard MMORPG (Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game) and Pac-Man

Jus sayin :P

also, let me know after the first time you get 40 people to show up, at the same time, from all over the world, fully prepped to spend 4-8 hours together to accomplish something, then accomplish it and thank each other



philosophy -> RE: "Is Google making us stoopid?" (6/13/2008 8:58:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real_Trouble

This same sort of article was written about TV in the past, and radio before that, and blah blah blah.

I've read "culture is falling apart, everyone is stupid, and our young people suck" essays from the ancient greeks, for crying out loud.  People who genuinely want to read books will find time to read books; people for whom it was a low value activity will fail to read them.

I use the internet for reading blogs, arguing with people on forums, and harassing my colleagues and friends with inappropriate emails.  I've still managed to find the time to read several thousand books (mostly non-fiction) in my life already.



LOL.
 
Ancient Greeks, huh?  i'd love to read one of those essays.
 
pinksugarsub


Plato's Republic......great book.

However, another great book is Sun Tzu's Art of War. The fact that there is an online version of this has made it possible for me to share that information with people. In essence, the net has made it so that people can, conceivably, access the content of even more books.



Aynne -> RE: "Is Google making us stoopid?" (6/13/2008 9:17:52 AM)

I know Mike exactly. I love coming home from The Reading Corner with a huge bag full of new books, since I was a little girl my mom always got me books for holidays and now that I am older she frequently gets me a gift cert. to the bookstore. I love curling up with a mug of tea and a great read, literally it can transport you into another world and some days, that is a gem indeed.  


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Time spent in my local book store is a little slice of heaven on earth to me,Camille I couldn't agree more nothing will ever replace the feeling of a bound book....



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