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RE: Marital Law 'Unofficially' Declared in DC - 6/13/2008 8:19:12 PM   
pinksugarsub


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ORIGINAL: Madame4a

reread what I wrote...


With all due respect, Madam4a, if You wish to make a point please do so.
 
i'd rather not try and parse out what You reasoning is by reading other posts You've made.  It's too much work for too little payoff, since i doubt i'll draw the inferences You want.
 
There is something i asked You in an earlier post that i don't believe You've responded to, if You don't mind.
 
What is the relevance of A/anyone's proximity to DC in evaluating the police conduct at issue?  i'm really not following You on that -- surely You don't mean to imply that only P/pl who actually live in DC can form valid opinions on the matter?
 
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< Message edited by pinksugarsub -- 6/13/2008 8:23:50 PM >


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RE: Marital Law 'Unofficially' Declared in DC - 6/13/2008 8:31:53 PM   
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It was in the AP, so it's made its way around.  It was also in the Columbus Dispatch, and in the Dayton Daily News.  Also made it to San Diego.)

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RE: Marital Law 'Unofficially' Declared in DC - 6/14/2008 5:30:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Madame4a

ONE MORE TIME... they do community area policing.. or block policing.. or whatever you want to call it.. clearly its not working in the Trinidad area of DC...

live here... you'll probably end up agreeing with the actions.. easily

as someone else said... do a little research

Dear Madame, Hotty, trapped, and all the rest of us who live nearby and have a frigging clue about this topic in the Trinidad section of DC, thank goodness you all are posting here because I was about ready to rip my hair out at the responses.  (BTW, trapped, thank you for bringing up that it was a one week long course of action, that ended already.)  Check your facts, people, before you go posting that the sky is falling! 

The suggestions made by people who don't live in the general DC metro area are all good ones, and they have been tried, and some are still in place.  DC has regular community policing and beat cops who get to know the people who live in the area where they work.  They get out, walk around, talk to the kids, etc. so to say that they are just sitting in their cruisers is just wrong.

My friend's mother is a DC cop and has been one for years and years.  My nephew interviewed with the DC Metro PD and was told outright that most new cops don't stay there long because of the conditions in which they work.  Many work double shifts regularly, they haven't had raises in years, the neighborhood backing of and assisting law enforcement is nill in most cases due to fear of retaliation by gangs, etc.  It's hard work for many police officers, esp. in large metropolitan areas.  Compound that with officers being shot at or run into while on foot or in their cars, and having community watch people beg you to do something to stop the violence that is killing so many people in their neighborhoods... well, you gotta start somewhere.  Over the course of the week prior to the checkpoint in this neighborhood, I think there were 6 murders in one night, in a matter of hours.  Not surprisingly, no one saw anything, heard anything, or knew anything about any of it. 

During the 7 day checkpoint, there were ZERO murders in that neighborhood.  Watching the local news as they interviewed the people who actually live there, almost all of them were ok with the checkpoint.  Some said it took a minute or two longer to get home because they had to stop, but most of them were perfectly fine.  They had been asking the police to do something, anything because foot patrols and increased cruiser presence had done nothing to staunch the murders in their neighborhood.  So, it wasn't like Metro PD just pulled this tactic out of their asses.

I asked my friend's mom once about her job as a Metro cop, and she said the saddest part was to deal with a family who lost a child, who wasn't even outside, but had been killed by a random bullet that went into their home and struck them dead.  And this isn't just some once in a blue moon thing, it happens frequently enough, that some little kids are used to staying away from all doors, windows, etc. in their own homes due to fear of being killed by a stray bullet.

So before people start villifying the MPD for a week-long effort to stop the violence in a neighborhood where nothing else has worked, including their own community watch group because they were being intimidated by thugs, come live there for a while - under the same circumstances that these people do - and we'll see how long it takes before you start begging the MPD to do whatever it takes.

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