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Politesub53 -> RE: Ireland Rejects EU treaty (6/17/2008 3:37:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

If you read your own info it says "advisory panel" and "should".
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What is wrong about an organistaion trying to protect the liberties of individuals?


On the first point, the panel mentioned is is an EU panel, which is highly respected. Why do you consider that they would present the EU with "Red herrings" ?

On the second point, there is nothing wrong and i applaud the sentiment, providing it applies to all liberties including religious freedom.




RealityLicks -> RE: Ireland Rejects EU treaty (6/17/2008 5:22:07 PM)

Politesub, the EU advisory panel has not insisted Lithuanian Catholic doctors carry out abortions against their will but that alternative doctors should be supplied to those women who seek abortions.  I think they are saying that these women's rights are equal to the doctors and therefore they are entitled to be transported to a facility which will carry out the procedure or have doctors brought in. EU membership may be hugely lucrative to Lithuania but it is also optional.

Something tells me that the "Brussels journal, the voice of conservatism" is not the best source for impartial information.




meatcleaver -> RE: Ireland Rejects EU treaty (6/18/2008 12:10:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

quote:

ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

If you read your own info it says "advisory panel" and "should".
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What is wrong about an organistaion trying to protect the liberties of individuals?


On the first point, the panel mentioned is is an EU panel, which is highly respected. Why do you consider that they would present the EU with "Red herrings" ?

On the second point, there is nothing wrong and i applaud the sentiment, providing it applies to all liberties including religious freedom.


The point is, Britain and many other European countries, members and none members of the EU signed up to the European Charter of Human Rights under the auspices of the Council of Europe (nothing to do with the EU) a good six years before the fledgling EEC was formed so their having to adhre to the convention has nothing to do with the EU. The EU has just incorporated the convention into EU law, nothing else.

If anyone has an objection to what the EU expects of its members, they can take their case to the European Court of Human Rights which was set up by the convention, whose verdict the EU is duty bound to accept.




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