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onething -> MILKING (6/13/2008 5:19:46 PM)

Who would know?What sets the amount of milk you can get out of a set of tits? The breast size, the nipple size.  Or is it just the over all health of the female in question. 

Thanks



tsatske -> RE: MILKING (6/13/2008 5:23:36 PM)

the le lache legue will tell you that breast size has no impact on the ability to produce milk, though this is not a 100% true statement.
How much milk you will make is like how much - uhm - anything else you make. how much you piss or how much your hair grows. It is mostly genetic, also related to overall good health and the enviromantel influences - you make more milk if more is being demanded, though it is far from unlimited.
a woman with larger breasts may be unable to produce a sufficent amount to feed a child, because breast size is made up of fat tissue in the breast, and too much of it can compress the milk ducts and keep them from expanding. But, again, it is not a simple sure thing. everyone is different.
Go looking for web resources on breast feeding, there are plenty of them. [sm=flash.gif]



MistressSybella -> RE: MILKING (6/13/2008 5:25:09 PM)

I thought you were talking about milking in the bdsm sense...funny! ;)

I breastfed 2 boys; one with a little appetite and another with a huge one. I suppose size has something to do with how much we can hold but it is truly more of an issue with supply and demand. Drain the breasts and they'll produce more milk. If more "draining" is attempted, the body will compensate accordingly.

Hope that helps. ;)

Miss 'Bella
ServeMeWell

PS. I'm puzzled as to why you'd "ask a Master" when they don't produce the milk. ;)



lusciouslips19 -> RE: MILKING (6/13/2008 5:26:48 PM)

It is supply and demand. When nursing the supply usually matches the demand and milk production inceases with amount and quantity. Nothing really to do with size.



MissMagnolia -> RE: MILKING (6/13/2008 5:28:06 PM)

You would probably have done better asking the ladies. They would know a lil more about this subject.

Breast size is no indicator of milk output. Most breasts have a similar amount of milk ducts. The rest is mostly fat and water. If a woman is sad, unhappy, overworked and has a lot of stress, her milk production can lessen, or even stop. She should have adequate rest, food and fluids for healthy production.




antipode -> RE: MILKING (6/13/2008 5:38:02 PM)

Milk is produced by milk glands. Most animals have no protuberances at all, no external physical factors have any influence on milk production.



sunshinemiss -> RE: MILKING (6/13/2008 7:57:45 PM)

that's some first post.



peacelili -> RE: MILKING (6/14/2008 12:37:57 PM)

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issue with supply and demand. Drain the breasts and they'll produce more milk. If more "draining" is attempted, the body will compensate accordingly.
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ORIGINAL: MistressSybella

i agreee here...nursed  four of my own and a couple of my frinds when she was ill and could not...its def supply and demand...when nursing two children...i produced more...=)

namaste'
lili






onething -> RE: MILKING (6/14/2008 2:04:50 PM)

I guees then from all I been reading here. There is no force milking?



MistressSybella -> RE: MILKING (6/14/2008 2:10:25 PM)

Forced milking? Do you mean forced lactation? Yes, that can be done. But it wasn't what you asked. ;)

Forced lactation is again about supply and demand. Stimulate the breasts routinely and they should start producing milk. Someone else here might provide you with some sort of schedule to aim for.

Miss 'Bella
ServeMeWell



onething -> RE: MILKING (6/14/2008 3:43:32 PM)

Lactation is making milk from tits, Yes/no. So milking is lactation, yes /no. To being lactation is to start milk from a tit! I guess then there is a fine line then between to start or forced. Unlless forced would be under the heading of unwilling, Tieing a slave down and  forcing milk from here tits. (starting milk, lactation, catch-22) Another way to look at it would if you milk a tit till it was dry BUT still try to get more than you would be forecd milking. YES?NO!! Now from what I have read here there is nothing you coulds do to get more milk, The well is dry to speask!

Same here for a male(being that it the cock your milking)



peacelili -> RE: MILKING (6/14/2008 5:36:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: onething

I guees then from all I been reading here. There is no force milking?



someone told me about some herbs that can help produce lactation...i cant remember what it was....but if i find it i will send it to you....as to the reference of once the milk is dry there is no more...well yes...a woman has to have a few hours at least for her breasts to reproduce more milk.....that is why when a woman is nursing they say to nurse every two to four hours in the beginnning...so her breasts will learn to produce milk more often...and in abundance for when the child gets bigger and requires more milk....ooo i have also heard of lactacting devices that can help with the production of milk....breast pumps...and others ive seen on sex toy websites....

as always....peace
lili



rawtape -> RE: MILKING (6/14/2008 6:24:05 PM)

Genetics, health, hydration, experience (in case of non-pregnant women who have not been milked previously, you are probably looking at a few weeks of 20 minutes of pumping, 5 times a day before the milk begins to flow), and ingestion of galactagogues (substances that increase milk supply: some are herbal like fenugreek, brewer's yeast, blessed thistle, and alfalfa but lack clinical evidence for efficacy; others are prescribed medications like domperidone and metoclopramide, but can have adverse effects) are all factors that can influence the amount of milk.

If you are planning on attempting forced lactation, please do some research on this issue if you haven't done it already. And my advice would be to stay away from the prescribed galactagogues.



Hissltora -> RE: MILKING (6/14/2008 6:26:25 PM)

FR
 
Fenugreek and oatmeal are two excellent herbs to increase milk supply. Drink a fenugreek tea, increasing the dosage until the urine has a faint maple syrup smell, then use the dosage just below it. Eating a serving of oatmeal a day can also increase it.
 
I strongly urge anyone dealing with lactation (or milking) whatever the hell ya want to call it, to be very careful and aware. Nipples, milk ducts and the areola can be badly damaged by improper breast pump usage or infrequent release. Also, the growing breast tissue  NEEDS to be supported, but avoid underwire with larger-breasted ladies, as they can compress the ducts and lead to mastitis.
 
Always be on the look out for plugged ducts (common with pump-only milking) and mastitis, a potentially life-threatening infection of the breast.
 
Titplay must be adjusted to take into consideration the increase in surface area and tenderness/fullness the active glands can create.
 
Looking up breastfeeding.com and the LLL website would be an excellent idea.
 
This coming from a mom of 3, all of em breastfed for at least a year each. Whew.
 
slave tora, devoted to Sir N 



BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: MILKING (6/14/2008 7:22:32 PM)

Milk isn't just sitting in there waiting to be sucked out by a mouth or a machine.  The body has to produce it first, and absent pregnancy, you have to induce lactation.  And every woman is different as to how successful that venture will be, if at all....... how long it will take...... and what measures she will have to take to make it happen.

Google "induced lactation" and you'll get hits on loads of websites for women who want to induce lactation for breastfeeding adopted babies, etc.

This is a good website with articles on the subject from a different perspective:

http://www.landmilkhoney.com/




pinksugarsub -> RE: MILKING (6/14/2008 10:43:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: onething

Who would know?What sets the amount of milk you can get out of a set of tits? The breast size, the nipple size.  Or is it just the over all health of the female in question. 

Thanks


If you mean breastfeeding a baby, usually the mother's milk production is 'set' by the baby's demands.  Tha's why mothers of twins can breastfeeding just like any other mom.
 
If you mean 'forced lactation', it seems to me it would depend on the time/effort/drug use (if any) that the woman used to bring back milk production.  But i don't know anything about which technique, or techniques, produce more milk than others.
 
pinksugarsub



MstrssScarlet -> RE: MILKING (6/14/2008 10:59:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressSybella

I thought you were talking about milking in the bdsm sense...funny! ;) 

Miss 'Bella
ServeMeWell



I had the same thoughts!

And yes sunshinemiss, I agree.... that's quite an unusual  first post!

Mistress Scarlet



tsatske -> RE: MILKING (6/15/2008 12:28:13 PM)

You can find a lot of information about forced (induced) lactation on the web, on sites of adoptive mothers. Many of them try. If nothing else, the baby gets the bonding. a few succeed.
so, there is no garentee of success. After a pregnancy, most women can make milk, but not all. I never made adaquate milk, and i have had 6 children. <shrug>. I just breast fed all mine and suplimented so that they would not starve.
Most non-bio mothers who feed by induced lactation also supliment.



MistressSybella -> RE: MILKING (6/15/2008 12:49:08 PM)

I'm assuming that all those "yes/no" additions to your prose are supposed to be questions. So lets back up a bit. In fact, let's back all the way up to your first post.

In the realm of BDSM, we have terms for certain activities. Perhaps you are unaware that there is an activity called Milking. Milking has nothing to do with the breasts and everything to do with forcing a male to ejaculate without an orgasm. It's all about prostate stimulation. So naturally since we're within a BDSM forum, when you named this thread "milking," that is where our minds went. Then, we read your first post.

quote:

ORIGINAL: onething

Who would know?What sets the amount of milk you can get out of a set of tits? The breast size, the nipple size.  Or is it just the over all health of the female in question. 

Thanks


From there, we gathered that you were asking about lactation, not milking. We tried to answer, to give you the information you asked for. Then, you posted again.

quote:

ORIGINAL: onething

I guees then from all I been reading here. There is no force milking?


Here we have a few options. One, we can answer your question as stated.

Yes, there is forced milking. One can tie a man down and stimulate his prostate and force him to ejaculate without an orgasm.

Two, we can make assumptions as to what you are really trying to ask based on the fact that your first post mentioned breasts. We decided to take this route since the 3rd option would be to ignore you and we're actually nice people.

Remember what I said about BDSM terms? When one forces a woman to produce breast milk, the term is Forced Lactation. We have explained that it can indeed be done and told you how. However, you post again.

quote:

ORIGINAL: onething

Lactation is making milk from tits, Yes/no. So milking is lactation, yes /no. To being lactation is to start milk from a tit! I guess then there is a fine line then between to start or forced. Unlless forced would be under the heading of unwilling, Tieing a slave down and  forcing milk from here tits. (starting milk, lactation, catch-22) Another way to look at it would if you milk a tit till it was dry BUT still try to get more than you would be forecd milking. YES?NO!! Now from what I have read here there is nothing you coulds do to get more milk, The well is dry to speask!

Same here for a male(being that it the cock your milking)


I will explain this again. A "dry well," as you put it, can be induced to produce. By stimulating the breasts routinely, the body is likely to produce milk. It isn't about forcing a woman to do it, but it's about forcing the body to jump out of a paradigm, to produce in an instance outside of pregnancy.

Don't get irritated at us for not telling you what you want to know when we have no idea what it is you are asking...your questions keep changing radically, leaving us to think, "Ooooh, maybe he means this, or is it that?" You have jumped through at least 4 different topics here; milking, lactation, forced lactation, forcing the unwilling, and so on. Each are worthy topics for discussion.  However, we're not really sure which one you are asking for information on. We'd be happy to help you but you have to ASK your questions accordingly.

Miss 'Bella
ServeMeWell





onething -> RE: MILKING (6/15/2008 1:38:11 PM)

 The imformation given here was helpful ! The way I ask or the miss use of terms was not in anyway to mislead anyone. I do thank one and all  for their input to my questions



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