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Englishrogue -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (11/23/2005 7:47:38 AM)

First you need to know what you're looking for. The right master for you could be someone elses worst nightmare or mr Vanilla (for some, this would be the same thing).

You need to identify your desires, your wants, your needs and your limits.

If you meet someone who appears to have compatible traits, then you get to know them. Best not to rush it... even if he/she seems like the Perfect one. If it is perfect, it will happen... over time.

Be safe, smart... start to trust, but not too much at first and listen to your instincts and your head as well as your heart.

Having said all that, love is blind, deaf and sometimes retarded :) If you are forced to compromise at any time, look at the consequences of that compromise.

Discuss your fears and hopes, communicate, and grow.

Then perhaps exchange phone numbers ;)

But be safe, and while I would describe myself as a romantic, I'd also remind you that if it seems too good to be true, it probably isn't. Anything worthwhile takes times.

Hope that helped :)

Rogue




slavejali -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (11/24/2005 3:11:57 PM)

i agree with pretty much everything everyone has posted.

you need to know yourself first...then finding someone compatable with you is much easier.

i think personally, people put more effort into choosing the type of job they want to do, or arranging their business affairs so that they arent setting themselves up for failure than they do in choosing a life partner or Master/slave.




lovingmaster45 -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (11/25/2005 4:05:03 AM)

If you have to ask that question, then you have not chosen the right one for you.




KatyLied -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (11/25/2005 4:29:55 AM)

Along with all of the compatibility talk. I think it's also important to find someone who is willing to take the time to help you grow in the lifestyle. Someone who will bring you new experiences, someone who sees part of his mission as pushing you to new things.




girl4you2 -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (11/25/2005 2:17:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Along with all of the compatibility talk. I think it's also important to find someone who is willing to take the time to help you grow in the lifestyle. Someone who will bring you new experiences, someone who sees part of his mission as pushing you to new things.

learning and growing is a part of life for all, so this is an important factor.




SoulBelow -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (11/27/2005 1:06:20 PM)

My master is my best friend. I love him more than anything else in the world and we have lots in common. I love the way he controls me. we have the same horny interests, I trust him, he's my world and I'd die for him. Thats how I know.




dreamtiger61 -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (11/29/2005 2:51:30 PM)

Every relationship needs to be built on trust, honesty, commitment, communication. All people in a relationship must be willing to grow, learn, and help eachother develop into better individuals.

Finding the right Master or submissive, can be a challenge. It is like finding friends or a partner in a vanilla relationship with a bit more added to it. Finding a compatible submissive or slave and taking on the responsibility for that person's training and development must be difficult for dominants.

A submissive or slave, can find it difficult to find the right dominant to trust in their training or care. I was seeking what my heart always knew I was. The hidden part of me which hide within the deepest secret place of my being. It took my Master to find me.

For years, I had fantasies involving BDSM scenes. I had experimented with some BDSM play when I was married. I enjoyed it. The relationship with my ex ended because we both were seeking things we could not find in it or in eachother. After it ended, I repressed my own sexuality for about 16 years. My fantasies became my main outlet for my sexuality.

I had moved back into my parent's home with my children. I found raising two children without financial or emotional help from their sperm donor was difficult. I had not time to explore my own sexual needs or make friends. I fit into the role of supermom very well. I worked came home took children to dance and karate lesson attended their performances. I became the perfect stage door mother pushing her two adorable talented children into the spotlight. I was living for my children. Sometimes, I wonder if it was their dream or mine.

The whole time my own needs were repressed and locked away in my self-imposed cage. Fantasies and dreams seemed to plague my daydreams and nightmares. Always, it seemed a slave at the feet of a dominant Master or Mistress. The themes and scenes changed to different time periods. My inner slave crying out inside of me. She was waiting for the day when the prision bars of repression would shatter and allow her to break free to become herself and not the sugar coated vanilla illusion forced upon her by her family and society. Eventually it lead to her depression and suicidal thoughts as her inner pain grew stronger. She pushed those she loved away from her seeking only to heal through her own inner pain and unacted out dreams and fantasies.

One night, I felt drawn to seek out what I needed and wanted, a Master. I did not know what I was seeking at the time. I just started websurfing on adult sites and found links to sites which matched my fantasies. I joined one site and made a profile. I think, my first profile read something like horny female looking for.... or something like that. I got a lot of attention from it. I felt nervous at first on that site. I craved the attention which I never had in my life. I felt like starving child in a candy store wanting to consume all the treats. I had messages from many doms seeking a submissive. I had messages from submissives wanting me to dominate them. Half of the doms really scared the crap out of me. I had more pictures of male penises than I could ever want to see in a lifetime. I had very graphic descriptions of their ideas of fun bombarding my message box. I met quite a few interesting characters and wannabes online and had a good laugh about most of them. I kept a few as chatfriends as they turned out to be good people. They were not the one I needed in my life as my Master. I was in the chatroom one night sort of BS some of the men in the room. Master came online and joined the chatroom conversation and my BS ended right there and then.

My life changed the night Master decided to chat with me. Master found me and saw some potiential within me. It was the night my whole vanilla illusion crashed around me and the cage holding my inner slave opened to set me free.

I met him through an online chatroom on a BDSM site. I liked Master's approach in the chatroom. I could tell Master was interested in knowing about me. I felt very comfortable chatting with him. He was not rude to me. We chatted on the site for awhile and I felt very comfortable talking to him. Master asked me to chat on yahoo with him. We chatted on yahoo for quite awhile. Master gave me his phone number. He typed in the words call me now after his number. I was very nervous and my heart was pounding in my chest. I called his number and was startled when I heard his voice. The illusion started to crash the moment I heard him talk. We talked on the phone. I felt something inside of me changing. I knew this man saw through my games which I had tried to play in the chatroom with him. I fought the need to submit that night. We just talked about all kinds of things. We set a day and time to meet up by the end of the converstation.

When we met, I felt an energy which ripped through me like lightening in its intensity. I looked into Master's eyes. Master commanded softly, lower your eyes in my presence. Instinctively, the slave inside me took over and obeyed him. I felt his appraisal of my willingness to obey him. I was attracted to his way of controlling things with his calm approach. I felt his honesty, openness, and authority that first meeting. Master' strength and character came through that night. I knew that night that I was destined to serve this man. My Master had found me.

I knew, he could help me. Believe me, I needed someone in my life to help me get back on track. Master walked into a mess of a life when he first met me. Master has started the process of changing me for the better. It is also a process I want for myself. I want his control in my life. I want his control in my life because I know he is worthly to be my Master. Sometimes, I am not always worthy to be his slave but I am learning. Hopefully, someday I will be worthy of him as well.

I am not like the other subs and slaves Master has trained. Master is learning new skills through my training as well as I am learning from him. Relationships teach us things about ourselves and about other people in our lives. We change and develop with each new relationship and partnership.

I know my Master has needs both in and outside of the BDSM lifestyle. I have needs as well. The important thing is to discuss our individual needs with eachother. Communication is very important for any type of relationship. It is more important within a BDSM lifestyle where trust and openness go hand in hand with communication.

Honesty is very important. My Master is very open and honest when he discusses his activities within the lifestyle with me. I feel privilaged that he is so open with me about it. His openness and honesty is allowing me to become more open with him about my life and about my individual needs, desires, or dreams.

We have our ups and downs in our relationship often centering on my getting into trouble. I am new to the lifestyle. I have done things a more experienced submissive or slave would not dare or even dream of doing. Confession might be good for the soul but it can sure hurt your bottom.

I trust Master to correct me. I know, Master will discipline me without being abusive. Master is very firm and strict with me. Master also balances my punishments with compassion, understand, and care for me. Master also explains the reasons for the disciplinary actions and what needs to be improved to avoid another punishment in the future.

I submit to his authority and discipline because I know he wants me to learn and do better. I also know he will not spare the paddle, strap, riding crop, belt or his bare hand if my behavior needs correction.

I trusted my own gut feelings when I met my Master. Listen to your head and your heart. Test the dominant to find out their limitations. Behaviors work several ways. Sooner or later, a dominant will reveal their limits and patience and set the standards in no uncertain terms with you. Make the dominant prove that they are worthy of your submission and service. The submissive is in as much control as the dominant in any BDSM relationship. Without a submissive the dominant can not control. Without the dominant the submissive can not submit. A BDSM lifestyle can not exist without these dynamics. As they say opposites attract, it is the opposites which add extra spice to flavor the lifestyle needs of the partners within the relationship.

Most lifestyle relationships tend to be more intense and satisfying to the people involved in them. Lifestylers tend to be more in touch with their fantasies, needs, desires and limits. When we think about creating a play scene, we communicate and share our ideas, thoughts and fantasies with our partners in order to create the scene. In the process, we learn our partners desires, fantasies, wants and needs.

I have been in this lifestyle in a real sense less than 3 months. I am a natural submissive. It took my Master to unlock the slave hidden inside me. I could never return to the illusion of my former life. I know Master owns me and controls me. I need him to do that because my place is serving him. I desire him in ways I could never desire a vanilla man. I have a lot of fun with Master. I enjoy the play at the bar or at an adult store. Master can make me laugh. Master can make me beg and submit. I need someone who can do this with me in order to be free and be happy. It might sound weird to some people that a slave needs a master to be free but that is what every slave feels they need whether they openly admit it or not. Finding the right Master or submissive can be difficult. Sometimes, when you are not looking you discover it hidden away in its own self destructive illusions of vanilla sugar coated broken dreams. The Master appears when the student is ready to learn and accept who they really are. Perhaps, it is why my Master appeared when he did on that night in the chatroom. My life will forever be different now.




dreamtiger61 -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (12/20/2005 2:24:28 AM)

Well, I guess I did not find the right Master after all or perhaps I was not the right slave for him. We parted ways this last week and decided to remain friends. The lessons he taught me will remain with me forever. He is a very good Master. I will miss the spankings and the play. Oh well, life goes on. I hope, you find exactly what you are seeking my new found friend and former Master. Good luck in all you do my friend.




sweetpettjenny -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (12/20/2005 2:57:19 AM)

you know He is right , because he makes your heart sing and He wants to see you grow to become a better submissive , which will in turn Strengthen him as a Dominant. i myself met Mr right about a month maybe more ago...It took a long time and without truelly looking there He was...my heart definately sings when i see or talk to Him. i miss Him every minute we aren't together.




MHOO314 -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (12/20/2005 5:18:16 AM)

if the shoes don't fit, take them back to the store immediately before you get sores----its no different with a Master---you will know if the Magic of the dynamic exists, if it doesn't---post haste change the plan--




dreamtiger61 -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (1/6/2006 3:35:13 PM)

Update, Master recollared me on new year's eve at a dungeon party. Now, we are living together. I guess, he missed my behavior problems, lol.




browneyesE -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (1/6/2006 6:25:47 PM)

if You're happy He's more than likely the right one. Listen to your head and your heart.




Petruchio -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (1/6/2006 8:25:33 PM)

Honoring incorrigible's advice and building on what Fang and to say:

1. Is he as wise and kind as he is strong and dominant?

2. Is he in for the duration?

3. Is he devilishly handsome?

4. Is his name Petruchio?

5. Umm… Surely there must be more…

Maybe not.





Wolfie648 -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (1/6/2006 10:53:13 PM)

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I need to find out how can someone please tell me how i can find the RIGHT MASTER,there are some ou there thast doens't know how ot be a real MASTER,Thast what iam looking for,In ARKANSAS area,I hope someone out there can help me with this.


It makes you feel yucky inside.

Hmmm dejavu. welcome to the matrix, we got fun and games, we got everything you want, we got your disease, in the jungle, welcome to the..., well it it goes on.

D (owner of j)




MasterLark -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (1/7/2006 6:48:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mrskitty2004

I need to find out how can someone please tell me how i can find the RIGHT MASTER,there are some ou there thast doens't know how ot be a real MASTER,Thast what iam looking for,In ARKANSAS area,I hope someone out there can help me with this.


Before responding, I wanted to read your profile but it was not found; perhaps you are now updating it.

I would highlight a point made earlier that this, in part, is about dual search -- not only searching for the "right" Master but also searching for the sub/slave inside you. And both will change over time. In particular, the right Master also grows as you grow. your relationship may initially click and then have difficulties, and perhaps you will need to find another Master or He another slave. The point is that it is important to know this is a normal dynamic as you start out, similar to vanilla relationships yet fraught and blessed with much more intensity (and danger). The right Master is not a perfect Master. Pay attention to how your likes/dislikes in BDSM change in ways that surprise you months or years later. This is a journey on a path of discovery and the right Master is your best guide, and you are your best teacher. your right Master will learn from you and He will change over time, for He is His own best teacher too.

you have much to learn about playing safe, about surrender, about subspace, and about enslavement -- all this comes over time, not overnight. Gravitate to the Master you resonate with and explore the path ahead.




DelRey -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (1/7/2006 10:46:33 AM)

ummmmm isn't that a little like saying,
Q. "how do you know when the chicken is done cooking?"
A. when you can pull off one of the legs. some would say before you can pull off one of his legs while other would say wait until the phuckin leg falls off.

really don't know why that scenario leaped into my mind, my point is what are your tastes, what are the things that are compatible with you?





wolffeathers -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (1/7/2006 11:16:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: incorrigible


quote:

ORIGINAL: mrskitty2004

I need to find out how can someone please tell me how i can find the RIGHT MASTER,there are some ou there thast doens't know how ot be a real MASTER,Thast what iam looking for,In ARKANSAS area,I hope someone out there can help me with this.


First rule out all the wrong ones.



This is harder then it sounds.

I know many that can seem right (both Masters and subs/slaves) for a few monthes.

I also know many that at first just don't seem to be able to work.

Such as me and my pet.

However, it takes time to build that trust, love, honor, that a true Master will have.

Same as it takes time to build ANY relationship.

Do not assume that the first person you click with is right.

As that could be just deadly.......




ginawithaB -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (1/7/2006 6:41:55 PM)

Could it be possible that perhaps we need to redefine what we mean by "right?"

"Right" when one is at one point in one's life, may not be "right" at another. Isn't that ok, though? If someone who seems "right" and feels "right" comes along and things go well for a time and then something changes and you part company...does that negate the "rightness" of the moment past?

In order for someone to be "right" doesn't have to mean we need to be able to tell what will happen in the future, does it? How, then, do we define "right?" That seems to be the question. At least, it seems that way to me.

We live, we learn, hopefully we never stop growing. And if that's the case, our definitions of such concepts as "right" are going to be changing constantly. Isn't that a good thing?

mrskitty: for me, Master "Right" is the man i see before me. He is not perfect...He is just "Right" for me because my heart has carefully considered the matter and has told me He is the "Right One" for me. And i hope i will be able to say that for a long time to come.

Hope my 2-cents helps some.

gina




Petruchio -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (1/7/2006 7:35:55 PM)

Being virtually perfect (and modest) I can assure you there's a lot of good advice here.




amayos -> RE: how can you tell if you have the right MASTER (1/9/2006 2:45:30 PM)

Does he make you shiver and obsess? Does he fulfill your vision? Is so, he is right. If not, you may still need to investigate further, or search for another.





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