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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 9:06:40 PM

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I am doing an online search and finding a lot of information on hydrophonics.
I actually would PREFER to grow my vegetables indoors, so I don't have to
have Popeye sit outside and guard my vegetables at night.

My indoor vegetables will become my babies, Lockit? I will keep you posted.

An indoor vegetable garden would be right up my ally, I am thinking you could
take them outside for a few hours daily to soak up some sun?

Another HUGE plus..about hydrophonics..is that you can grow all year long.. right inside. Its been kinda scary, with having 5 kids, wondering how i am going to feed them, and know what comes from my garden wont likely last very long, so.. perhaps i too should look into hydro!

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 9:17:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

I am doing an online search and finding a lot of information on hydrophonics.
I actually would PREFER to grow my vegetables indoors, so I don't have to
have Popeye sit outside and guard my vegetables at night.

My indoor vegetables will become my babies, Lockit? I will keep you posted.

An indoor vegetable garden would be right up my ally, I am thinking you could
take them outside for a few hours daily to soak up some sun?

Another HUGE plus..about hydrophonics..is that you can grow all year long.. right inside. Its been kinda scary, with having 5 kids, wondering how i am going to feed them, and know what comes from my garden wont likely last very long, so.. perhaps i too should look into hydro!

I have always been a tad paranoid about having an outdoor garden.
I prefer a garden that I can access all the time, day or night.
Ladies, maybe we can start a hydrophonic indoor garden club, please
keep me posted on the other side.

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 9:34:01 PM

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I'm lucky about that in some ways, suhlut - I live in the heartland, and pretty much Everything is grown somewhere in this state. All sorts of veggies and fruits. Wheat, Corn, Oats, Barley, Rye - even Quinoa and Spelt for those who want other varients on the grain front (though they're harder to find unless you know who to talk to or happen to have space to grow your own lol.) I get dairy - milk, farm fresh free range eggs (Chicken, Goose, and Quail), cream, butter both salted and unsalted, buttermilk that's actual butter byproduct rather than cultured, and a whole slew of different types of cheeses from local producers. Meat? Beef, Chicken, Pork, Lamb, Goat, Buffalo, Duck, Goose and Turkey - all free range - along with great hunting for Deer, Quail, and Pheasant. I even buy various ingredients for my soaping business from the same local producers - buffalo and beef tallows, goat's milk, whole cow's cream - I ended up developing one of my best selling recipes based strictly on ingredients that I can buy from local producers instead of having to have things shipped here. Now that I've finally gotten enough done around my place to start working on the various landscaping projects - a greenhouse is going in the back yard. It'll be great for starting plants during the very early spring, and for growing potted veggies all year round in a place that the dogs (and Birds!) can't get to. For those who've been having to forgo tomatoes due to the whole salmonella thing - neener neener neener, I haven't had to.

Breakfasts at my place typically consist of locally produced pork sage sausage, free range eggs, whole wheat bread with sweet cream butter and homemade apple or pumpkin butter, and free trade coffee with locally produced honey and fresh whole cream. I've gotten so addicted to the fresh cream for my coffee in the morning that it's becoming increasingly difficult to tolerate the taste of powdered creamer substitutes and such when I run out a day or two prior to the next coop delivery day! (Pathetic, I know.)

Whole cream will freeze, as will homogenized cow's milk, and so will goat's milk. Homogenized milk will seperate a bit when it thaws, but it's still ok - it's simply a bit skim afterwards. Since goat's milk is naturally homogenized, it doesn't tend to do that as badly as cow's milk. Butter will freeze just fine. Most cheeses will (though they have to be Really well sealed, cause they tend to pick up odors/flavors both easily and quickly.) Wheat berries and whole wheat flour, along with Bulgar Wheat, keep very well as long as they're stored properly in a draft free cool place and the container has a good seal.

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 9:43:59 PM

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lol..yeah.. i do know what ya mean

we live in a residential neighborhood.. and had bought an empty lot right next door which is a corner lot...where i have my garden located... and in years past.. deer have come and nibbled their ways through my garden. but also have seen people just walking bye..step on up..and steal whatever they wanted.. (i also have an apple tree and a peach tree...located right behind my garden which is always being stolen from) soooo this year.. we put a fence all around it..cant afford letting deer and people steal from us anymore. i mean a garden is HARD work..why should i have to do all that work.. just to have the results taken ?

and then.. ya just know, when food gets scarce or too expensive.. people are going to be stealing even more from others gardens.. so.. hydro for that too is a great idea.. no sticky fingers..no bugs..no weeds..

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 9:47:24 PM

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lol..yeah.. i do know what ya mean

we live in a residential neighborhood.. and had bought an empty lot right next door which is a corner lot...where i have my garden located... and in years past.. deer have come and nibbled their ways through my garden. but also have seen people just walking bye..step on up..and steal whatever they wanted.. (i also have an apple tree and a peach tree...located right behind my garden which is always being stolen from) soooo this year.. we put a fence all around it..cant afford letting deer and people steal from us anymore. i mean a garden is HARD work..why should i have to do all that work.. just to have the results taken ?

and then.. ya just know, when food gets scarce or too expensive.. people are going to be stealing even more from others gardens.. so.. hydro for that too is a great idea.. no sticky fingers..no bugs..no weeds..

BINGO, you hit the nail on the head.
I like hydro for just those reasons that you listed.
As vegetables go sky high, they will soon be a precious commodity.
I want my veggie babies protected inside, and I can make the space inside
to do it.

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 9:48:58 PM

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The primary problem you're going to run across with Hydro is that the various city, state, and fed policing agencies tend to start peering rather Closely at those who purchase the equipment. Why? Because using hydroponics to grow Weed (ya know - pot, herbage, maryjane, marijuana) is effective, efficient, cheap, and produces high quality that it's more difficult to locate prior to hitting the streets!

If you don't mind the potential of being on a potential watch list for suspected drug producers - hydro is a great way to go.

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 9:55:18 PM

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Lockit... i found the hydrophonic system that i saw on the infomercial!

http://www.officialaerogarden.com/default.aspx?adid=ovt1002.1&OVRAW=hydroponics&OVKEY=hydroponics&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=6161064012&OVKWID=58961625012

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 9:59:25 PM

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I am in the process of telling all my friends and family, neighbors, and anyone
that will listen, that everyone needs to start stocking up on food {especially canned
foods, and canned perishables with a long canned shelf life} ASAP, through-out the summer.

I plan to buy my favorite and not so favorite canned foods {especially corn}.

If we think the gas prices and food prices are bad now, wait until you see what
the prices of many foods {especially corn, soybeans, etc.} are going to be
in about 6 months.

Commodity Prices Show No Letup - NYTimes.com

I have updated my favorite 70's slogan.....gas, grass, ass or corn! No one rides free!

Has anyone else started to stockpile food recently?
What do you think of the impending depression?

Midwest flood may cover nation in higher food prices -- chicagotribune.com

ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Greenhouses and more backyard gardens are going to soon become a necessity.

Food prices have risen drastically here. Most nights, this is the lead story on the local news.

i am looking at using an online grocery service.

Here's a link to one such service:

http://www.netgrocer.com/

There are plenty of such companies...just use Y/yr Google-Fu.

i haven't yet done my 'due diligence' to compare costs, etc.

If A/anyone has already begun using such a service, i'd be interested in Y/yr experiences.

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 10:01:13 PM

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ah goodie.. another reason to have someone watching what i do!..lol.

i dont mind.. they can look at me as a possible 'suspect" of growing weed all they want.. i just know theyd never find anything..so no worries. i mean all theyd have to do.. is come look at my outside garden..and the size of my family.. and simply will dawn on them.. that i have good and valid reason for wanting to grow veggies all year long.

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 10:08:13 PM

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I live in the D.C. area, the cops need to solve the unsolved murders,
find the drug dealers, prevent street crime, road rage, possible terrorist
attacks, etc.

If the cops want to take the time to come inspect my little hydro
inside garden, instead of finding the drug and murder suspects,
let them come right on in.

I will give them a carrot on their way out.

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 10:17:09 PM

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Thank you for the link suhlut, I am going to save it and I see
indoor gardening in my future.

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 10:17:20 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

I live in the D.C. area, the cops need to solve the unsolved murders,
find the drug dealers, prevent street crime, road rage, possible terrorist
attacks, etc.

If the cops want to take the time to come inspect my little hydro
inside garden, instead of finding the drug and murder suspects,
let them come right on in.

I will give them a carrot on their way out.

LMAO!...
but seriously.. i dont think carrots can be grown with the hydro method.. nor potatoes for the same type of reason, both are root veggies... and need deep dirt to grow in.. carrots especially need deep loose soil.. so that they can grow longggg.

So hydro is great..for anything that grows OUTSIDE the ground..like herbs.. tomatoes, zucchini, cucumbers, ect

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 10:18:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: suhlut

quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

I live in the D.C. area, the cops need to solve the unsolved murders,
find the drug dealers, prevent street crime, road rage, possible terrorist
attacks, etc.

If the cops want to take the time to come inspect my little hydro
inside garden, instead of finding the drug and murder suspects,
let them come right on in.

I will give them a carrot on their way out.

LMAO!...
but seriously.. i dont think carrots can be grown with the hydro method.. nor potatoes for the same type of reason, both are root veggies... and need deep dirt to grow in.. carrots especially need deep loose soil.. so that they can grow longggg.

So hydro is great..for anything that grows OUTSIDE the ground..like herbs.. tomatoes, zucchini, cucumbers, ect

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 10:21:23 PM

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Thank you for the link suhlut, I am going to save it and I see
indoor gardening in my future.

my pleasure MzMia

i too think i will be saving my pennies, to buy at least one.. possibly two of the ones on that site.

now.. off to beddy~bye time for me.. i hear my pillow..screaming my name.

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/17/2008 10:22:00 PM

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They use thermal imaging to find meth labs and pot growers... and as for needing probably cause and a search warrant since the patriot act went into effect they don't really need either. Satelites can see 5 miles into the earth so since of privacy really doesn't exist either. I wonder if we will start having more problems with our gov and policemen?

We are trying to convince our neighbors to build a hydro garden and they think its a joke.

Now that I've read everyone's thoughts here I'm going to go do a search and see if I can find an online shops that are selling seeds for a garden as well as save these links in the forum and e-mail them to my friends.

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/18/2008 12:47:29 AM

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Not to piss in doomsayers cornflakes... (pun intended) but very little canned corn comes from Iowa. Most of that corn grown out there is FEED CORN, the "cow corn" used in livestock feeds... If youre gonna see an increase in prices it will be chicken, eggs, meat etc because thats what the corn in Iowa produced. Sweet corn is mostly grown in Texas and California...

Edited to add: The other thing this will do, is to make ethanol / gasahol extremely pricey. Stock up on booze, not canned corn. The corn crop in Iowa mostly winds up in bottle of booze, tortillas, cornbread, and sacks of livestock feed....

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/18/2008 2:47:32 PM

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Lockit... i found the hydrophonic system that i saw on the infomercial!

http://www.officialaerogarden.com/default.aspx?adid=ovt1002.1&OVRAW=hydroponics&OVKEY=hydroponics&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=6161064012&OVKWID=58961625012

Thank you suhlut... I have seen this too. There is a hydoponic's store not too far from me. I was also thinking of the hanging strawberries and tomatoes. I have seen shows that had one planter gardens with all sorts of things. It wouldn't go far... but it is an addition to the diet.

What I would like to know is what can be grown throughout the year, in a small place, that can give you the most. Around my apt. you can't utilize anything outside, so I am going to have to set up a table in front of a window and grow whatever I can. I just have to figure out what! lol

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone! Oh and Mia... you think that growing your garden indoors is going to deter popeye? Oh girl... can I interest you in a lil something I decided to sell?

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/18/2008 3:02:10 PM

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If I remember correctly, you can cut up cucmbers and freeze them in baggies. They won't be as crisp when thawed but they should still be good. We've done that with squash, corn and a lot of other stuff too. As for pickles, my mom used to make them every year. She'd make sweet pickles and dill pickles. They were always better tasting than the store bought stuff but they never looked as pretty.

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/18/2008 7:52:21 PM

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Lockit, I was going to use Popeye to sit outside and guard my vegetables
with his gun.
Since I am growing them inside, he will be out of a job!

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RE: Gas,Grass, Ass or Corn? No one rides free! - 6/18/2008 8:10:07 PM

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Lockit, I was going to use Popeye to sit outside and guard my vegetables
with his gun.
Since I am growing them inside, he will be out of a job!

ROFL... I have gotten everything backwards today! I think I better retire!

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