lronitulstahp
Posts: 5392
Joined: 10/17/2007 Status: offline
|
quote:
For Obama wanting to talk to our enemies and wanting to double foreign aid will go over like pushing a naked guy into a room full of cactuses and turning out the lights! It seems to me, there is a prevailing idea that all the other countries in the world are our enemies, simply for not agreeing with the foreign policy carried out by the present administration. Whether it's McCain or Obama, as far as most of the world is concerned America's "got some 'splainin' to do..." Cactii aside... I mean what would Obama say to Osama? At least we *know* what McCain would "say" to Osama! Do you? Or do you hypothesize? For instance, i know i wondered why the hell Bush and his boys never addressed the Saudi role in Al Qaida...the fact that most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi nationals etc. Did you *know* that would happen? Each presidential election it seems like the Dem candidate is trying to "out global socialise" the Dem candidate from 4 years previous. It's like they think they're running for "president of the world" or something and Obama is going down the same road only faster. Like they say, "it's like watching a train wreck....." Fear of a global- minded leader is a sort of antiquated idea. As much as we'd like to go back to the safe, simple days of isolationism, the fact is Pearl Harbor blew that idea out of the water---literally. The U.S. is a part of the global scene. i think it pisses people off more that we are no longer viewed as the example of democracy and fiscal health that we were before. Sometimes people sound like recalcitrant bullies..."if America's not #1, i'm taking my ball and going home!" I'm an Independant. i'm an Independent. i also try to be an open-minded, progressive, independent thinker. The pack mentality just never sat comfortably with me. If I were a Dem I'd be pissed! As an American...the past 8 years have pretty much pissed me off. That being said, perhaps i'm too benevolent; i don't blame McCain for any of Bush's shit. As far as i can recall, he was pretty much the G.O.P whipping boy during much of Bush's administration. At the same time...belittling Obama for being a brilliant legal scholar(as was Thomas Jefferson and John Adams) or for thinking globally (as did F.D.R. and Truman...hell even Reagan) seems a bit like bandwagon thinking at it's best. Popeye, the following isn't aimed at any particular person just a group mindset. i wish people would have the intelligent discussion, instead of always arriving at the lowest common denominator. For instance...Obama has three years in the senate and has worked as a lawyer. Is that enough experience? i wonder. But here i have seen monkey t shirt inferences, jokes, long-winded tales about how everyone in one certain part of Texas is the most vile racist hahaha slip in some jokes and funny experiences then back off..."but not me"... have seen people called rag-heads, islamists, remarks about "those people" and my personal favorite, the KKK family reunion...you name it, it's been seen here. i find it disheartening that Americans are in general so poorly educated and uninformed about our own political systems that we can't begin to fathom foreign policy or systems of government. Alot of the criticism i see of Obama is often made by those who make racist, bigoted , religiously prejudiced statements...however thinly veiled. i wonder if people know how they come across? Or is it so far gone, that they really don't care. At least with the blatant hate mongerers there is that sense of honesty...it's actually refreshing. Like the difference between a pile of dog shit right out in the open, and the pile hidden in tall grass. edited to add...i received an email from someone here who said i hate America...to be clear NOTHING could be further from the truth. i don't hate this country at all...i love it enough NOT to be blind to it's faults, or lie about it's history. i love this country, but i don't feel that it has to mean excluding the love of all mankind, in order to prove it. The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love stop at the border? ~Pablo Casals I will fight for my country, but I will not lie for her. ~Zora Neale Hurston We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it. ~Edward R. Murrow
< Message edited by lronitulstahp -- 6/19/2008 5:54:14 AM >
_____________________________
Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." -Bob Marley
|