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Moving into Dom/Domme lifestyles - 11/3/2005 10:58:27 AM

MasterTalion

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Greetings to all.

I've been a DOM Master in my past (several years ago). My fiance / sub has never in her past participated in any type of lifestyle like this. I brought her gently into it little by little, and the more we do this, the more she responds and loves it. She's always know that she could be a sub for the right master, and she's found that now. She also still has a Domme switch side to her, that wouldn't work on me ( and she KNOWS that already, and she doesn't even want to try with me ), and we've discussed in length several times of finding a sub for both her and I. She's also extremely bi-curious, but hasn't had any experience with another female as of yet. The one thing we have discussed is to find her another female to experiment with first, and see how things go with that, then move on.

She's got several reservations about the entire thing, but the more we talk about it, the more she's coming into the idea more, she's still hesitant and questioning.

I guess what I'm asking is, what advice would you give an aspiring Domme to the idea of a same-sex submissive? do you have any experiences similiar to this you'd like to share?

Thanks in advance for any help.

~~Master Talion.

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RE: Moving into Dom/Domme lifestyles - 11/3/2005 11:02:06 AM

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Take your time, read the ethical slut, be patient with yourselves and with the competition and adversity you are facing, and just be there as a guide to help her learn this new part of her.

Good generic advice.

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RE: Moving into Dom/Domme lifestyles - 11/3/2005 11:17:16 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterTalion

Greetings to all.

we've discussed in length several times of finding a sub for both her and I. She's also extremely bi-curious, but hasn't had any experience with another female as of yet. The one thing we have discussed is to find her another female to experiment with first, and see how things go with that, then move on.

She's got several reservations about the entire thing, but the more we talk about it, the more she's coming into the idea more, she's still hesitant and questioning.

I guess what I'm asking is, what advice would you give an aspiring Domme to the idea of a same-sex submissive? do you have any experiences similiar to this you'd like to share?

Thanks in advance for any help.

~~Master Talion.

With all due respect, your post here comes off as genuine, yet your profile states your looking for a Bi Sub for a 24/7 live in addition for 2 Dom's. .... on another note I'd suggest she (experiment) with her Bi side to see if she even cares to go there.
sigh...............

Q

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RE: Moving into Dom/Domme lifestyles - 11/3/2005 1:14:47 PM

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quote:

I've been a DOM Master in my past (several years ago). My fiance / sub has never in her past participated in any type of lifestyle like this. I brought her gently into it little by little, and the more we do this, the more she responds and loves it. She's always know that she could be a sub for the right master, and she's found that now. She also still has a Domme switch side to her, that wouldn't work on me ( and she KNOWS that already, and she doesn't even want to try with me ), and we've discussed in length several times of finding a sub for both her and I. She's also extremely bi-curious, but hasn't had any experience with another female as of yet. The one thing we have discussed is to find her another female to experiment with first, and see how things go with that, then move on.

Let's see you have a fiance, who has no experience in the lifestyle whatsoever. Then you are trying to teach her. Yet, at the same time she has always known she could be a submissive to the right master even though she had no prior knowledge of the lifestyle?
Yet, then you go on to say she still has a domme/switch side to her...assuming she had one prior and knew about the lifestyle prior. Which you've already stated she did not.
And, to take it a step further she is now bi curious as well?

I don't quite understand the question since you have went back and forth so many times in a single paragraph. Can you please re-state it?

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RE: Moving into Dom/Domme lifestyles - 11/3/2005 1:56:42 PM

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ok, I know it's confusing.... so, basics are:

She is my sub.... she also wants a sub of her own. we've decided that the sub we find will be sub to both of us. She does want this, but she's reluctant because she's never had any experience with another female.

that's the quick explanation.

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RE: Moving into Dom/Domme lifestyles - 11/3/2005 2:05:54 PM

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Now, this could be stirring the pot somewhat, but HEY, how about the lady go out and explore her fem-fem sexuality on her own, without your input?

I truly despise the phrase bi-curious. Either you are attracted to someone sexually, or you are not. If she is interested in women, she stands a much better chance of finding one without a man following her around. It could be that sex with women is not what she wants, or just one of those things that's okay sometimes. It's a decision she has to make for herself.

Ms F

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RE: Moving into Dom/Domme lifestyles - 11/3/2005 2:35:00 PM

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<-- does a quick double-check to see if had named this topic 'bitchslap me for asking a question.... '.....

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RE: Moving into Dom/Domme lifestyles - 11/3/2005 3:24:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: MasterTalion

<-- does a quick double-check to see if had named this topic 'bitchslap me for asking a question.... '.....

Pal, on this site regardless of the name of the topic, what you are double-checking for IS ALWAYS THE NAME OF THE TOPIC......

It will be ok. Everyone will get over it. Everybody has a valid viewpoint. Now if someone said if everybody was jumping off a bridge....

So, just put the responses in the chips and compute on 'em. Then do what you are gonna do.

LOL,
Ron

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RE: Moving into Dom/Domme lifestyles - 11/3/2005 3:31:18 PM

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and all I wanted was some advice, not a hoe-down bitching........ urgh. oh well, life moves on... not worth the drama

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RE: Moving into Dom/Domme lifestyles - 11/3/2005 4:56:26 PM

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My mate and I have an absolutely wonderful same-gender servant. We were, originally, looking for boys, but when this woman came along, she had all the right stuff, and we would have been out of our minds to pass her up.

I would say look for a PERSON who fits with your dynamic. Don't let gender either push you into or hold you back from beginning a relationship and seeing where it goes. Take your time, talk everything out, and don't be afraid to say "I don't know how this is going to work, but this is what I want to try." Be honest, straightforward, and be patient with one another -and- with the person whom you choose to help you on the path.

Good luck to you,

Lady Zephyr

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterTalion

Greetings to all.

I've been a DOM Master in my past (several years ago). My fiance / sub has never in her past participated in any type of lifestyle like this. I brought her gently into it little by little, and the more we do this, the more she responds and loves it. She's always know that she could be a sub for the right master, and she's found that now. She also still has a Domme switch side to her, that wouldn't work on me ( and she KNOWS that already, and she doesn't even want to try with me ), and we've discussed in length several times of finding a sub for both her and I. She's also extremely bi-curious, but hasn't had any experience with another female as of yet. The one thing we have discussed is to find her another female to experiment with first, and see how things go with that, then move on.

She's got several reservations about the entire thing, but the more we talk about it, the more she's coming into the idea more, she's still hesitant and questioning.

I guess what I'm asking is, what advice would you give an aspiring Domme to the idea of a same-sex submissive? do you have any experiences similiar to this you'd like to share?

Thanks in advance for any help.

~~Master Talion.

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RE: Moving into Dom/Domme lifestyles - 11/3/2005 5:11:31 PM

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This shit is supposed to be fun as well as fulfilling.

Garbage must be taken out (the real kind you all)
Having been around the block about as much as mickey rooney, and liz taylor............

look........

Never does perfect exist (and if by chance you hit one you fuck it up beyond fixing)

But you learn tolerance, you learn subservience, you learn many things both sides..............

You gotta ask yourself some questions, will this pass, is this liveable, AM I CONFUSED?

If you are a heathen dont live with the popes daughter unless that is the whole of the nastiness that gets you off.

Find the opposites attract thing not the like interests.......

That's enough....... others could see and tell this concept clearly.....
I cannot and thats my failing.

find in the middle

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RE: Moving into Dom/Domme lifestyles - 11/4/2005 9:18:05 AM

MasterTalion

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that's basically what we are doing - the gender is set, and we don't want to change that - personally I'm not bi, never want to be, and the person we are looking for will be a sexual playmate as well - so we know what we're looking for, finding someone who's gonna fit the criteria is going to be the harder part. :)

~ Master Talion

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RE: Moving into Dom/Domme lifestyles - 11/4/2005 6:04:18 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Quivver

With all due respect, your post here comes off as genuine, yet your profile states your looking for a Bi Sub for a 24/7 live in addition for 2 Dom's. .... on another note I'd suggest she (experiment) with her Bi side to see if she even cares to go there.
sigh...............

Q

ok... since i'm MasterTalion's sub, let me clarify what may seem confusing people...

there is a very good reason Master's profile says we're looking for a 24/7 sub. that is the ultimate goal. we both want to be completely up front with whomever we talk to, and outline the whole process, STARTING WITH finding someone for me to experiment with, just she and i. things will progress from there. he has talked to a few people through this site, i've seen the emails and responses, and i've gone on from there to talk to them myself. i am sub ONLY to him, and that is something that any sub/slave we find needs to be completely clear about. she will never take my place in his life, nor will she ever take his place in mine. this isn't a question of Master creating a harem. i'm learning from him how to express my submissive side, which has always been there, i've simply never been with anyone who knew how to handle it, or even wanted to see it. most men have always been more attracted to my domme side... for me, that gets tiring and doesn't fulfill MY needs.

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sub4hire
Let's see you have a fiance, who has no experience in the lifestyle whatsoever. Then you are trying to teach her. Yet, at the same time she has always known she could be a submissive to the right master even though she had no prior knowledge of the lifestyle?
Yet, then you go on to say she still has a domme/switch side to her...assuming she had one prior and knew about the lifestyle prior. Which you've already stated she did not.
And, to take it a step further she is now bi curious as well?

it isn't and has never been a question of not having prior knowledge of the lifestyle. it's a question of balancing both sides of myself. we're working with the sub side first for two reasons... one, Master isn't one to be dominated. i've ALWAYS known that, and would not want him any other way. two, the sub side of me has a lot of issues and insecurities that need to be destroyed before i can truly understand what it is to be a sub/slave. in a lot of ways, knowing that will help me be a better domme to the slave we find. Master is fine with whatever and whoever i choose to experiment with... he knows he will be part of the process, whether his input is active or not.

mnottertail is right, all viewpoints in this are valid. we will weigh what makes sense against what doesn't and see what comes out in the end.

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