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Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 1:09:21 PM   
BlueAngelSub


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I don't know why subs, slaves or bottoms feel they need to give there submission away so easily. I have seen many post where the s/s/b has known the dominant for awhile usually long distance. All of course with many phone calls exhanged, juicy emails and or romantic sm get away to steal away the hours of wanton lust.

Yes I do understand that many think that their submission is made of gold and so their dominence as well.

If you had a friend who was in a situtaion like that, I am sure you would caution them to take it slow because they haven't met the real person, only one unincumbered by your reality of your life.

I wonder how many actually see your dominant as a normal person rather then a demigod
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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 1:14:48 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		They usually are cautioned. But they ignore it. That's the nature of frenzy.

Such is life. I've been there. We're adults and we make our choices.

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 1:15:49 PM   
submissivesilk


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Status: offline 		Really, there is nothing Demi about Him.... lol, ok i'm joking of course. i do realize my Sir is human, and therefore makes mistakes like the rest of us. i am lucky in that He allows me to voice my opinion or ideas if i really think He is making the wrong decission. In the end it is up to Him of course, but He has agreed with me from time to time.

i don't think my submission is made of gold, nor is it a gift, it is simply who i am.

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 1:17:42 PM   
lonewolf05


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Status: offline 		I wonder how many actually see your dominant as a normal person rather then a demigod

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i do........i know damn well She is human........
i take care of Her.........smiles, tears, and in between.......especially with a vanilla husband around here...and 2 dogs.

and there may be more than You figure on.

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 1:20:12 PM   
anopheles


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Status: offline 		I doubt that many that as you say, view their submission or their Dominance as golden really realize all that holding either position entails. It's a LOT of work. Rewarding work, but work the same. It is true that there are many that say they are one thing, Dom or sub/slave, when in their heart or hearts, they don't know what it's about, but Collarme and similar sites give them the forum to proclaim themselves as "MasterOfAllTime", or "nolimitpaindirtyslut", and that magically makes them what they are.

It's all just a matter of seperating the wheat from the chaff.



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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 1:25:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh and additionally, I hear this argument against being promiscuous a lot to- that I somehow can't value it because I do it with so many people so casually.

That's really not true at all.

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 1:28:40 PM   
anopheles


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Oh and additionally, I hear this argument against being promiscuous a lot to- that I somehow can't value it because I do it with so many people so casually.

That's really not true at all.


Agreed. When and where is of the essence when you decide to give away the family jewels

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 1:43:28 PM   
Tapestry


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Status: offline 		If I may say, (acknowledging that I am very inexperienced here) that one reason could be the intense need for approval, acceptance, love, and all the other many things that I know I need from my master, and can only surmise that other subs feel the same.
Sometimes too, I think I need to be protected from my own rash choices, poor decisions, enthusiasm, and lack of boundaries.
But i would prefer my Dominant to protect me from all that...submission isn't something I do for fun on Saturday night, it is who I am, inside and outside, through and through.

tapestry

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 1:47:43 PM   
Tapestry


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Oh and additionally, I hear this argument against being promiscuous a lot to- that I somehow can't value it because I do it with so many people so casually.

That's really not true at all.

In many ways I envy you that ability. I am able to do so with vanilla sex, no problem. It's fun, it feels good, everybody's happy. Thought I could in scene too. It just didn't turn out that way for me. But heaven's wouldn't it be easier to not have to get so wrapped up in whether or not the man cares for me as much as i care for him? And not to have to be all worried if i meet with his approval?
But alas, that is not for me. So I try to handle it the best way possible, trusting that it will all work out in the end.

tapestry

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 1:54:15 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tapestry
If I may say, (acknowledging that I am very inexperienced here) that one reason could be the intense need for approval, acceptance, love, and all the other many things that I know I need from my master, and can only surmise that other subs feel the same.

Im sure many people feel insecure of themselves and need others to reassure them. In a way it's a matter of degree and in a way it's a matter of "when do these needs become holes in your capability?"

Dominants feel those same needs too you know, surprise.
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Sometimes too, I think I need to be protected from my own rash choices, poor decisions, enthusiasm, and lack of boundaries.

Well I'm sure you will find many doms who will protect you and train you.

But a lot of doms prefer capable independent subs who can take care of themselves and thus can be capable of making the dominants life easier.
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But i would prefer my Dominant to protect me from all that...submission isn't something I do for fun on Saturday night, it is who I am, inside and outside, through and through.
tapestry

Your dominant can't protect you from yourself and would only exhaust himself trying.


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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 2:05:09 PM   
lonewolf05


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But heaven's wouldn't it be easier to not have to get so wrapped up in whether or not the man cares for me as much as i care for him? And not to have to be all worried if i meet with his approval?

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THIS.........is WHY.........."I" am not romantically involved with my Domme.....i don't HAVE the drama and trauma.....

guess being an island ain't so bad, huh?

take care
best wishes
wolf

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 2:09:08 PM   
Tapestry


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Your dominant can't protect you from yourself and would only exhaust himself trying.

ok well that was eye opening...
and so very true
*sigh*
so much to consider and so much to learn...
thanks for your honest sharing

tapestry

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 3:01:53 PM   
swtnsparkling


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They usually are cautioned. But they ignore it. That's the nature of frenzy.


sub frenzy. How many actually know what this is?
Does anyone new ever research anything anymore? Would you go skydiving/scuba diving with out 1st researching and learning a few basics?
i did a lot of reading and question asking before i jumped into anything. And as much as i was in that frenzy state i still put myself 1st and waited . Sceneing isn't what makes you a sub. i for one don't believe it has anything to do with being a sub it is an added bonus/luxury once the two involved have listened and learned and formed a bond or mutual respect and trust.
i'm seeing a lot of the "we met we scened, i never heard from him again" . i am getting to the point of being numb and wondering why is it so darn hard for any one to use common sense anymore .
Stop....Think... Learn..Listen....Be Patient.....Look out for yourself...
Alright then..... swt had a rant too. But i'm cool now.. i only do that about once a month.

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 4:59:01 PM   
Belladonna82


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Status: offline 		Giving submission away? Now thats a interesting topic...Thats the one last thing submissive/slaves have absolute control over...they should hold on to it.Master didnt not collar me until we both felt i was emotionaly ready.Its not something to jump into.i'm not saying my submission is made of gold...but maybe a nice silver since i was trained prior and take my role very serious 24/7.Why most do???i hate to say it but alot...not all....but alot of people who claim submission is wanting a man to love them and they have been emotionaly wounded in the past so when a man says bow before me...they do hoping if they behave they will be loved....Dominate/submission does not equal love....its special but very unique.

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/3/2005 6:37:07 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		I was a total novice in frenzy for two weeks. I made ALL the classic newbie mistakes in those two weeks.

Then I woke up.

My difference is that I didn't then come to the list and wondering all "why did things go wrong?"

I knew what went wrong- I was in frenzy!

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/4/2005 2:43:17 AM   
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I wonder how many actually see your dominant as a normal person rather then a demigod

Well, considering I live with master, we are married, yet don't have a 24/7 BDSM relationship, I'd say I see him like a normal person. I've seen all the bad shit (the sickness, the anger, the pettiness, the bickering and bitching, the moaning and whining, the sadness, and the disagreements) that come with my marriage and my play. I've also seen all the good (the beauty, the love, the tenderness, the kindness, the joy, the smiles, the laughs, the play, the ecstasy, the unspeakable sweetness, the perfect moments, and the fun). He is a person, just like everyone else, and I love him dearly for it. Mystery and awe are wonderful, but they're nothing to build a lasting relationship on. After a while you get to know every mole, every freckle, every bald patch, and every scar on their body. Some of the mystery goes away then, but being comfortable with someone is so important.
On a side note, I do refer to him as my god, but that is for spiritual and religious reasons.

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/4/2005 3:00:46 AM   
sweetpettjenny


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Status: offline 		its kind of funny ...ive been on this site almost a year and have gotten comments mailed to me as to why im not collared yet...its called taking my time and finding the "right" Master for me.

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/4/2005 5:48:39 AM   
Evanesce


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quote:

I wonder how many actually see your dominant as a normal person rather then a demigod


Well, I'm sure mine would LIKE me to see Him as some sort of demigod, but I manage to keep His feet firmly planted in reality. Fantasyland is great to visit, but it's impossible to live there permanently.

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/4/2005 6:55:12 AM   
tasha_tart


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlueAngelSub

**********RANTING*********
I don't know why subs, slaves or bottoms feel they need to give there submission away so easily. I have seen many post where the s/s/b has known the dominant for awhile usually long distance. All of course with many phone calls exhanged, juicy emails and or romantic sm get away to steal away the hours of wanton lust.




People do this in all aspects of life, not just D/s, for any number of reasons.

Insecurity, a need for acceptance, the feeling of being a "kid in a candy store"...all these and many more can lead someone to turn off the part of his/her brain that's in charge of critical thinking. Fortunately for most people, it eventually turns itself on again.

Tasha

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RE: Giving it Away?! - 11/4/2005 7:09:33 AM   
littleone35


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Status: offline 		I never saw my late Master as a demi god i knew he was a 100% human and that is just the way i liked him.

littleone

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