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ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

Pain is "damage data", the experience of nociceptive or neuropathic damage.

Pleasure, enjoyment, etc. are mental and emotional responses to stimuli in general.

One is a physical response, the other is an emotional response that can be caused by physical input.

Due to neurologic structure or induced states, nociceptive and neuropathic damage can sometimes by some people be anesthetized or be incorrectly trasmitted as other nerve data.  But this recurring discussion isn't about that, it's the old thing about "if you derive pleasure from pain stimulus, is it still pain?".  Yes, it is.   Enjoyment of a type of stimulus doesn't alter what the nervous system, as well as the other physiological responses to that, is doing.

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ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

mas·och·ism n.  

The deriving of sexual gratification, or the tendency to derive sexual gratification, from being physically or emotionally abused.
The deriving of pleasure, or the tendency to derive pleasure, from being humiliated or mistreated, either by another or by oneself.
A willingness or tendency to subject oneself to unpleasant or trying experiences.

al·go·lag·ni·a  n.  

Sexual gratification derived from inflicting or experiencing pain.

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ORIGINAL: MrRandallspe

I now have to go out and get some tshirts made with the comment..
" I am into Algolagnia"

just to see how many others out there have the slightest idea just wtf I am referring to.