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BossyShoeBitch -> Procurement in relation to cuckholding (6/19/2008 1:09:18 PM)

There have been several very interesting threads recently on the topics of female slave/submissives procuring sexual partners for their Masters and of the female slave/submissive as a cuckhold.
 
Softness' thread on procurement raised a few questions for me and got me thinking what (if any) relationship is there between procurement and cuckholding  ..

For those slaves/submissives who actively procure for their Masters, I have a few questions..  First, when you bring girls home, are you an active participant? a cuckhold?  are you even there? 
What are you feeling at that moment, sexually and emotionally when you know he is with someone else ? Afterwards?  The next day?
Second, Softness made it sound so easy to get girls for DarkVictory, so I'm very curious:

How exactly do you find Him "enough pussy to drown in?"  
What do you say to the girl? 
Is the girl OK with a one night stand? 
Are they usually only one night stands?

For anyone who has been the "procuree", how was the experience for you?  Did you regret it? Would you do it again? 
Are there any s types who are simply told to show up at another Dom's house in order to be the (what would be the feminine version of "bull"? not cow! )

Are there Dominant women out there who are or have been the "bull"?
  What was the main attraction for you to do it?

 
This is a subject that has long fascinated me and I look forward to your responses...




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Procurement in relation to cuckholding (6/19/2008 1:25:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch
For those slaves/submissives who actively procure for their Masters, I have a few questions..  First, when you bring girls home, are you an active participant? a cuckhold?  are you even there? 

Could be anything or everything.  With my partner, I usually procure people to top him, so I'm either co-topping or just watching.  I also procure people and HE is the cuck/watcher.

In the past, often it was for the inclusion of others, but not necessarily.
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What are you feeling at that moment, sexually and emotionally when you know he is with someone else ? Afterwards?  The next day?

My partner- giddy, excited, happily growly inside, afterwards usually snuggly and protective

My ex- anxious, excited, hesitant, afterward happy and relaxed
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Second, Softness made it sound so easy to get girls for DarkVictory, so I'm very curious:
How exactly do you find Him "enough pussy to drown in?"  
What do you say to the girl? 
Is the girl OK with a one night stand? 
Are they usually only one night stands?

Put yourself out there.  Get to know people, get the word out, keep your ears perked.  It's easier to get the one nighters than to find the ones that will work long term, but that's nearly universal.
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For anyone who has been the "procuree", how was the experience for you?  Did you regret it? Would you do it again? 

It was kinda fun, but it could get tiring because it was never enough.  Now it's just a fun search- and we know I like searches.
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Are there any s types who are simply told to show up at another Dom's house in order to be the (what would be the feminine version of "bull"? not cow! )

I have in the past, would LOVE for more of that.
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Are there Dominant women out there who are or have been the "bull"?  What was the main attraction for you to do it?

Oh mostly just to enjoy something fun in a good dynamic without the long term attachments.




softness -> RE: Procurement in relation to cuckholding (6/19/2008 2:22:16 PM)

First, when you bring girls home, are you an active participant? a cuckhold?  are you even there? 
Dark Victory and I don't live together at this time. I am currently speaking with a couple of girls to join us next time a take a trip out in about a month, and likewise some girls in the Uk for when DV comes here later in the summer. From time to time we will be chatting with someone local to Him who catches His interest, and if I was able to contribute to her taking the edge off His demon between my visits, then that is something I am more than happy to do.
 
 In the discussion He and I have had, it has been made clear some of the time I will be there, and some of the time I will not. It would be perfectly in keeping with the dynamic of our relationship for me to be sent to dig a pointless hole in His yard under the blazing midday sun while He fucks someone else, just as it would be in keeping for Him to order me to beat the bejesus out of her while He watches. Just as DV brings out my compliant doormat, He brings out my evil bitch Top. Both are aspects of the girl He owns, and therefore His property for use. 
 
There is certainly a degree of cuckholdry in the whole process of me procuring for Him. It creates a very specific set of emotions, ideas and values for me. I need emotional distress and torture. Procuring for Him not only provides Him with various and delectable partners, but also creates a playspace in which He can be free to emotionally torture me in a way different to standing over me with a nail gun.
 

What are you feeling at that moment, sexually and emotionally when you know he is with someone else ? Afterwards?  The next day?
Overcoming jealousy over other women is something very recent, as recent as my visit and passing my interview. I am owned meat, and I am secure in that position unless I fuck up in some hugely destructive way. Even as recently as a month ago I could not rely on that security. As such, I was hurt, frightened, envious, jealous and generally under emotional distress when I thought/knew He was with another girl.

Around 2 months ago charlotteS and Stephann met up with DV in San Fransisco, they went to a club and played and then stayed the night at DV's house. I played a large part in getting that sorted out (mostly bloody mindedly reminding Sir to remember to make phonecalls etc, and plotting away with charlotteS). charlotteS and I are really close, we talk often and only a logistical nightmare stopped her being side by side with DV to meet me off the plane on my visit out. I love her to pieces, trust her, know she has no designs on DV, and was happy about the thought they would all meet up and play. I was still in bits over it, I was tetchy and difficult in my own skin that day and jittery while I waited to hear back from them. I spoke to all three late night their time, could hear charlotte all goey and spacey, and Sir happy to have had some enjoyable play. I was crushed and elated all at once. I can admit now that there were w few tears, especially when I saw pictures of her with the man I was devoted to, but had never met. charlotte is stunning, she is a much heavier bottom than me and so (in my head) far more exciting to play with, she is nearby, she is intelligent, witty and sexy (and though she is very very very Owned lol) alarms were going off all over my head that she would replace me. She didn't. SIr, thank my lucky stars, has decided He wants me, and so I am His and joyful for it.

The whole thing showed me that other girls in Sir's bed, especially when I am not there, is going to be a whole form of emotional torture for me, that I will willingly submit to in order to be pleasing to Sir. I don't believe there is any such thing as a selfless act - and so will also say that the emotional torture is key to my own happiness and contentedness. That doesn't mean its nice when it happens, emotional distress is emotional distress, its real and painful and potentially destructive if not handled right.

How exactly do you find Him "enough pussy to drown in?"  What do you say to the girl?  Is the girl OK with a one night stand?  Are they usually only one night stands?
He is hardly drowing in it right now ... but a girl can dream.
He and I have pretty strong kung-fu .. I have never had a problem getting myself, my friends or anyone else laid. Its a case of being open, friendly and enticing. I am always honest about what I am doing. With girls who are really, no shit, into real life BDSM usually the prospect of a decent, intelligent, healthy, skilled and evil Top/Dom/Master interested in playing with them is hardly repugnant. What I say would vary from girl to girl, just like in  bar one line does not fit all. Its not rocket science finding a willing girl, its just time consuming. I am not in the business of finding Him property - not yet anyhow - I wouldn't trust myself to get it right.

Are there any s types who are simply told to show up at another Dom's house in order to be the (what would be the feminine version of "bull"? not cow! ) Have done it before, in another relationship. It went well a couple of times, and really fucking badly once. Part of me would do it again, but part of me is seriously consumed with the concept of only ever being His now. It has a real sense of Ownership, of being property, that no one else will fuck me but DV for as long as I am His. Obviously though, He may do a turnabout on that and have me whoring on street corners.

hope that furnishes you with the answers you wanted




julietsierra -> RE: Procurement in relation to cuckholding (6/19/2008 4:16:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch


For those slaves/submissives who actively procure for their Masters, I have a few questions..  First, when you bring girls home, are you an active participant? a cuckhold?  are you even there? 
What are you feeling at that moment, sexually and emotionally when you know he is with someone else ? Afterwards?  The next day?


Well, since I said I procure, I'll just answer this part. I guess you could say I'm an active participant - both in action and as a voyeur. I love watching what he does. I love taking an active part in the process.

Now, this gets muddled a bit though because he does have someone he initially engaged with as part of a cuckhold arrangement. As it turned out, she loved it and her partner didn't. He no longer participates but she still does, so it's kind of moved around a bit. She's not comfortable playing with me there and so I'm not. Initially I had no difficulties with it...they were his cuckhold couple and I enjoyed discussing their adventures (not in vivid detail, but nonetheless, he made me feel a part of things even though I wasn't there.). As time went on, and her partner stopped being involved, it became more difficult.

Then she and I met and for a time, things became VERY difficult. But time does wonderous things and now, she and I are generally very comfortable with each other and most of the time, comfortable with the knowledge that one of us is seeing him. That being said, in order to protect each other, we do temper our conversations in this area - both according to his rules as well as a consideration for each other. I have no desire to cause her pain and she has no desire to cause me pain. But that wasn't just a natural thing. She and I worked at it.. and worked hard at it.

These days, we're pretty good friends. Her partner is not very comfortable with me, because I'm a part of my Master and there are some things he's working through, but she and I maintain contact as much as possible given our jobs and outside lives.

On the whole, it's been an interesting process of growth and most of the time, the both of us are happy we've done this. Not saying it's perfect, but it IS real good.

Then again, this relationship is one in which her partner actually did the procuring, not me, not my Master, not her. But as to the rest of the questions, regardless who did the procuring, the answer is still the same.

juliet




BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Procurement in relation to cuckholding (6/19/2008 11:47:02 PM)

Thank you LA, softness and Juliet for your thoughtful responses...LA, I would just LOVE to be a fly on your wall for just one day! *s*




SimplyMichael -> RE: Procurement in relation to cuckholding (6/20/2008 12:22:13 AM)

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LA, I would just LOVE to be a fly on your wall for just one day! *s*


My love, be careful what you wish for, VERY careful...




BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Procurement in relation to cuckholding (6/20/2008 7:57:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

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LA, I would just LOVE to be a fly on your wall for just one day! *s*


My love, be careful what you wish for, VERY careful...

But I am always very careful what I wish for Sir...Remember?[:)]




Wildfleurs -> RE: Procurement in relation to cuckholding (6/20/2008 10:50:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

There have been several very interesting threads recently on the topics of female slave/submissives procuring sexual partners for their Masters and of the female slave/submissive as a cuckhold.
 
Softness' thread on procurement raised a few questions for me and got me thinking what (if any) relationship is there between procurement and cuckholding  ..


I think of procuring as one way to get to the cuckholding kink, but there are multiple ways to get there.  While I have procured, its not something that I prefer to do these days but I do get into the cuckholding kink. 

Personally, I've discovered that I like to be an active participant - lubing up parts, guiding parts into other parts... I just like to get all in and watch and touch (although I do think it would be interesting to try being tied up and not being able to be actively participating).  Watching my owner play (a BDSM scene) with someone is pretty boring but watching him fuck someone is just insanely arousing. 

Both of us tend to be more on the conservative side and like to develop friendships rather than have one night stands - we've been fortunate enough to find someone who has many of the same kinks (including cuckholding) as we do, but isn't looking for that emotionally & sexually closed triad committed relationship thing.  So its a nice balance of not having one night stands, being friends with the person, and without any committment but everyone happy and well adjusted with it.  I wouldn't say it was easy to find, but I also wouldn't say it was difficult.

C~




SimplyMichael -> RE: Procurement in relation to cuckholding (6/20/2008 10:08:15 PM)

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I think of procuring as one way to get to the cuckholding kink, but there are multiple ways to get there.  While I have procured, its not something that I prefer to do these days but I do get into the cuckholding kink. 


There are lots of ways.

BSB brings home some hot young stud from a fetish party and arrives home and tells her boy toy to ignore the old guy sitting there with a ball gag in his mouth (me) and to just fuck her silly.  Now the rule of this scene is if BSB starts laughing I have to beat her till she cries.  See, I have a gag so there is NO chance that I laugh while I am holding up signs say 3.5 or "doesn't it get bigger" behind the guy while he fucks her and if she laughs...she pays.

OR

Similar thing, lots of humilation directed at me so the stud feels all, well studly and shit...since he doesn't know that BSB takes fucking forever to come (yes, my tongue HAS cramped before she came, but you can work past those cramps) and so the poor bastard is pounding/eating away and a whole lot of nothing is going on.  Just as he starts to wonder what is going on, I jump and say "jesus fucking crist, I fuck better than that and I am the cuckhold"...

Isn't humilation play fun?  Okay, the above was just in good fun, I would not do that to some poor dude.




softness -> RE: Procurement in relation to cuckholding (6/21/2008 8:21:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Isn't humilation play fun?  Okay, the above was just in good fun, I would not do that to some poor dude.



I must be bad person ... I can't wit for the day when I get to grab some poor girl by the hair and say .."Look you stupid cunt ...Thats not sucking cock .... THIS is sucking cock!!"

ditto for shounting helpful comments like "oooooo you *really* shouldn't have said that!" or "ask Him about carpentry" from the the laundry room




softness -> RE: Procurement in relation to cuckholding (6/21/2008 8:22:48 AM)

edited for a double post




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