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Termyn8or -> RE: Music appreciation (6/23/2008 10:51:55 PM)
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Well stella, I am blunt, and now is no time to change. I don't like any of them. I am not saying I dislike them, but I do not prefer them. So you like reggae then. Fine and good, I am not all that partial to it and the sequence you provided seems to have illuminated the reason in my mind.
It is limited to certain beats. I would be jamming every Saturday night if not for a drummer who can't learn new beats. In other words it all sounds the same. We try totally different riffs and this guy just tries to apply the same beat. So we stopped.
If you like reggae, fine, but I was never partial to it. To me, they are bastardizing songs by aplying the same style and rythym to them all. If I am to listen to reggae I would rather hear music that is composed and perfomed in that genre, meant for the style.
As I mentioned before, perhaps it is because I have a preconcieved style in my mind that I think these songs should be played in, but I think it is more than that. Not that I hate reggae, but to take old songs and do that to them does nothing for me. Of course if they were redone in a heavy metal style I would probably say the same thing, even though I like heavy metal.
For example I mentioned that I think it would be awesome if Bernstein took the whole crew and did Stanglehold. But then I like Judas Preist - You Got Another Thing Coming, but I would not have the desitre to hear an orchestra play that. Although it could be good, it would take some work I think, and so would Stranglehold.
I think the reggae is too limited as a style myself. If you like the style that is fine. There are a couple of reggae songs I like, but they were not remakes, they were written in the genre, and played in the style in which they were intended to be.
And hold on to your hats folks because I am about to admit to something that is not quite logical about me !
I would not like to hear a classical piece trying to be emulated by a rock band. Even though I like rock, as well as rock and roll, there are certain things they are not meant to do. For example ACDC doing Ravel's Bolero would be a total washout. I do make an exception for Roll Over Beethoven by ELO, but that is one of the very few.
And even the other way around, like with an orchestra doing Stranglehold, I don't mean the written music, I mean how they really played it, on the version that sold. All the riffs and leads, some of which were made up, pick them up and have whatever section play them.
For example on a tune like Stranglehold, I would start with tubas, basses and violas or something like that. Then bring in french horns and muted trumpets playing the main guitar, the opener in tandem. Then they split and the muted trumpets and trombones actually, then play the lead guitar part. They must be very good musicians to do it in the first place. And you use more than one of course, so in that time in the original hit, when they turned on the echo machine, as the composer arrainger you would just write each part, and of course have the section practice together to get it together. Of course there are kettle drums, and there will have to be snares. And you will need, if you want to have "realism"or something like that, there should be some powerful cymbal sections on each side, because of how they mixed the original. Not to be outdone so to speak. They need to practice together, on opposite sides of the stage.
When you are talking about professional musicians who are good enough to be in an orchestra, instead of delegated to the role of a millionaire rock star, they will figure it out. You might be surprised at how little some of them make, considering the qualifications.
It takes many many years to even understand what those qualifications are. Then the pay scale. Like football in a way, you got first string, second string and third. That is based on your skill level. Playing multiple instruments helps. Alot of interaction with the conductor/arrainger is a big plus, if he'll have you. You can become the leader in a way of the violin or oboe or who knows section, which is a boost in pay. And of course a soloist makes more.
There is alot to an orchestra, it is fascinating to me. It is something I can explore without being bombarded with all the nasty happenings in the world. And that is good because I am starting not to care. I can't change shit and I got one life to live.
Music is not a necessity, although it is nice to have. It can enlighten, imspire or bring some people to their knees.
So if you like reggae, listen to some, by all means, but then listen to my first link. In some of that music the notes are the same. (HA only the chords have been changed to protect the plageurizers, see info on the web about the US TV show Dragnet for the specific reference that makes the joke work)
Rock bands are limited, hillbilly bands are limited, reggae bands are limited, it is all limited.
Enough for now, later.
T
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