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pinkieplum -> What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 3:18:42 AM)

i'm not referring to submission, slavery, service, etc.
 
My question is more about the lengths -- if any -- to which you would go to provide for your Dom/me when Their want/need will reduce your personal power.
 
Would you be willing to provide financial support for your Dom?  If you are wealthy, would you consider accepting a collar from a middle class or lower class Dom?  Would you pay more than 'your share' of the expenses so He could enjoy the standard of living you're used to?
 
Would you be willing to protect your Dom?  Would you step in if He was assaulted?  Harrassed?  Arrested?  Sued?  Injured? 
Disabled?
 
Do you feel that support, protection, or qualified advice is within your repetorie of your 'personal power'?
 
If so do, do you feel you would pledge to furnish such things to your Dom by accepting His collar?
 
Are there limits on the amount or degree to which you'd be willing to provide support, protection or advice to your Dom?
 
If you have been collared, does your Dom accept support, protection or advice from you? 
 
If you are uncollared, would such willingness by a Dom be a want/need you'd seek -- or avoid -- in a Dom?
 
pinkieplum




came4U -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 3:26:38 AM)

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Would you be willing to provide financial support for your Dom?  If you are wealthy, would you consider accepting a collar from a middle class or lower class Dom?  Would you pay more than 'your share' of the expenses so He could enjoy the standard of living you're used to?


no, why would I support a grown man? 

quote:

Would you be willing to protect your Dom?  Would you step in if He was assaulted?  Harrassed?  Arrested?  Sued?  Injured? 
Disabled?



maybe, I doubt it.

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Do you feel that support, protection, or qualified advice is within your repetorie of your 'personal power'?


No, mothering is not what I want to do for a man.








daddysliloneds -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 3:53:37 AM)

instead of asking what i'm willing to give a dom, i'll turn it around to say:  those who i love, i'm willing to die for, and leave it at that.




katie978 -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 4:40:47 AM)

   To be honest, I'm not sure I agree that any of those are reducing one's personal power. As a subbie, I feel empowered through serving: it's what I like to do and I want to do it well.

  I guess by power, you might be referring to more material measures of a man: bank account, social standing, etc.

    To be honest, I don't think of things in those terms, especially in a relationship. My bank balance is just a number, my social status or standing. These things are so far down the list of what's important to me that they barely register. If my dom was suddenly broke and needed cash, I would loan without a second thought (since I know he's not the deadbeat type) and never regret it. When I'm sharing my life with someone -any length of my life, whether it's a few months or longer- I don't consider my personal power at all.

   Would I go into debt so my dom could go to the casino and buy lottery tickets, hookers, and cocaine? Probably not. Would I share all my stuff with him under other circumstances? Indubitably.




Dnomyar -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 5:13:48 AM)

From experience there are women who would do that.




DominantJenny -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 5:38:59 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pinkieplum

i'm not referring to submission, slavery, service, etc.
 
My question is more about the lengths -- if any -- to which you would go to provide for your Dom/me when Their want/need will reduce your personal power.
 
Would you be willing to provide financial support for your Dom?  If you are wealthy, would you consider accepting a collar from a middle class or lower class Dom?  Would you pay more than 'your share' of the expenses so He could enjoy the standard of living you're used to?
 
Would you be willing to protect your Dom?  Would you step in if He was assaulted?  Harrassed?  Arrested?  Sued?  Injured? 
Disabled?
 
Do you feel that support, protection, or qualified advice is within your repetorie of your 'personal power'?
 
If so do, do you feel you would pledge to furnish such things to your Dom by accepting His collar?
 
Are there limits on the amount or degree to which you'd be willing to provide support, protection or advice to your Dom?
 
If you have been collared, does your Dom accept support, protection or advice from you? 
 
If you are uncollared, would such willingness by a Dom be a want/need you'd seek -- or avoid -- in a Dom?
 
pinkieplum


Answering for my submissive, because I can.

He does support me financially. I am a stay at home parent and do not do well in the working world when I have been in it. He understands this is not a strength for me whereas it is a strength for him (and gives him a level of happiness and reward that it has never given me.)

His "defend his woman" instincts are fully intact, though well controlled. He is on my side as I am on his.

I think he'd be willing to pledge these things. There is a line, of course; no one wants a relationship with a leech. (Okay, almost no one.)

I rely on his support, emotional much more so than financial. We love each other, and think that goes along with the loving.





OmegaG -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 5:48:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pinkieplum

i'm not referring to submission, slavery, service, etc.
 
My question is more about the lengths -- if any -- to which you would go to provide for your Dom/me when Their want/need will reduce your personal power.
 
Would you be willing to provide financial support for your Dom?  If you are wealthy, would you consider accepting a collar from a middle class or lower class Dom?  Would you pay more than 'your share' of the expenses so He could enjoy the standard of living you're used to?
 
Would you be willing to protect your Dom?  Would you step in if He was assaulted?  Harrassed?  Arrested?  Sued?  Injured? 
Disabled?
 
Do you feel that support, protection, or qualified advice is within your repetorie of your 'personal power'?
 
If so do, do you feel you would pledge to furnish such things to your Dom by accepting His collar?
 
Are there limits on the amount or degree to which you'd be willing to provide support, protection or advice to your Dom?
 
If you have been collared, does your Dom accept support, protection or advice from you? 
 
If you are uncollared, would such willingness by a Dom be a want/need you'd seek -- or avoid -- in a Dom?
 
pinkieplum


I believe that relationships are symbiotic, that each person gives as well as recieves.  What is given and recieved is based on the individual relationship.

The financial question is tricky.  I believe that people should be productive, I also beleive they should do something that they love.  I have dated men that have made less then me but loved their jobs, I also broke up with a man after he transitioned from a job that he loved to a higher paying job that he loathed, it literally sucked too much of him out.  I also feel uncomfortable around people who are financially set for life and therefore feel they can laze about, yet have high respect for those that use their financial independence to enhance their world.

Would I protect him?  I have a strong urge to protect anyone who is being hurt, and were he in that possition he would be no different.

Would I give him advice?  Why wouldn't I share my knowlege with him?  Why wouldn't I uplift him, I think it would be selfish not to.




metalmiss -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 6:28:55 AM)

All of the questions you ask, to me, go without saying.

Would i give up my own personal power to Him? Yes, completely & without reservation.

Support Him, protect Him & advise Him? Yes of course.. All i have and all that i am belongs to Him. His happiness is my priority.

i don't see how you can say this is not about submission.. Nothing in my life is not about my submission.. It underpin's all that i am, especially with regards to my relationship with Him. When i became His i did so 100%, with NO reservations. i do not segregate parts of my life or divide myself between what i want to give and want to hold back.

i am not a doormat, it takes a very strong person to be a slave and accept that level of control in all areas of my life. my Master encourages me to build myself up as a person, to give my opinions and ideas as and when they arise. He is the only person in my life that i am answerable to, i would help and support Him in all ways if He ever needed it. Because We are two souls together & there are no compromises.




Mercnbeth -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 8:01:33 AM)

~ Fast Reply ~
 
Perceiving the relationship between a Dom/sub, Master/slave, or even Top/bottom as a zero sum game is a plan for failure. Perceiving a 'collar' as payment for services rendered or services anticipated places the mindset on the individuals. Even if only one side of the relationship thinks in these terms there is little chance for success. Someday, in some regard, coming from that perspective processing the value received won't be equal to services rendered. From that day forward playing to 'get even' will cause one party to hold back. When you hold back, you also begin the process of looking for another source for a more equitable exchange; or perhaps even a bargain. Its all about you, and usually that's the only person you end up with - deservedly so.

I've said it before; a relationship is not a product of a zero sum game. The sum of the whole is greater than the parts or the assets either party brings to the table. You protect and serve what you value. In a relationship that should be the relationship itself. The experience doesn't exist in as individual. Processing daily life and interaction as an individual will result in peaks and valleys; processing the same life within the context of a relationship and focusing on that relationship and the peaks are higher. Better yet, any valleys are shared.

Wealthy or poor, if you value wealth more than the relationship you'll fail. All encompassing, at minimum, you should value the relationship as much as yourself. Without that mindset why go into a relationship? During any time of difficulty you will bail on the relationship as a form of self preservation. Perceiving you are not getting equitable value for services rendered makes you a customer not a partner. The thought process itself speaks of being emotionally and mentally incompetent of having a relationship. 

Whether monetary or emotionally/intellectually; going into a relationship with the idea of keeping score - you've already lost. 




ownedgirlie -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 8:33:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
Whether monetary or emotionally/intellectually; going into a relationship with the idea of keeping score - you've already lost. 


Awesome.





littleone35 -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 8:36:05 AM)

His bank balance is not of interest to me.  Master and i have been together over 2 years and i never even though about his bank balance.  As for protecting him i would, but i know he would not let me.  I would protect him with my life if necessary.  As for advice if he asked me for it i will give him my best advice.  I will support him  in anything he wants to do.

Of course all that for me falls under my submission to and my love for him.

Mat's littleone




sweetnurseBBW -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 8:47:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: metalmiss



i don't see how you can say this is not about submission.. Nothing in my life is not about my submission.. It underpin's all that i am, especially with regards to my relationship with Him. When i became His i did so 100%, with NO reservations. i do not segregate parts of my life or divide myself between what i want to give and want to hold back.



Well said!




softness -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 8:51:03 AM)

Would you be willing to provide financial support for your Dom? 
willing yes, support yes, wage slave and house slave .. no. I would not be willing to "keep" my Owner full time, support if He couldn't work is one thing, enabling Him to be a bum is something else.
 
If you are wealthy, would you consider accepting a collar from a middle class or lower class Dom? 
I wonder how hard I would get beaten for saying He is "collaring up"? ... I have certain requirements that sadly (due to sociopolitical circumstances of the 21st century) are more often met by someone in the middle or upper classes.
 
Would you pay more than 'your share' of the expenses so He could enjoy the standard of living you're used to?
Sure ... my money is His money. I am not however going to hand over financial cotnrol to a gold digger. I give that control to someone who is able to create that standard for both of us, and have my money enhance it.
 
Would you be willing to protect your Dom?  Would you step in if He was assaulted?  Harrassed?  Arrested?  Sued? Injured?  Disabled?

Sure .. I would try. I would rip the throat out of anyone who tried to harm Him, just like I would for anyone I care about. The likelyhood of me being more effective at that than me is pretty laughable though. 
If He was harmed and needed my care, He would have it without question.
 
Do you feel that support, protection, or qualified advice is within your repetorie of your 'personal power'?

Yes. In fact support and advice (appropriately provided) are the mainstay of my service to Him.
 
If so do, do you feel you would pledge to furnish such things to your Dom by accepting His collar?

well yes ... see above
 
Are there limits on the amount or degree to which you'd be willing to provide support, protection or advice to your Dom?

Other than enabling Him to be a bum by supporting Him, then no. If offering support, protection and advice became negative (if he was dependent on me for all things and became a drain ... I would lose respect for Him and eventually remove my collar. I really believe that free healthy adults should provide for themselves unless they are unable to do so. I wouldn't be able to respect an Owner that needed me to prop him up. support, yes ... prop no.
 
If you have been collared, does your Dom accept support, protection or advice from you? 

DV has accepted my advice and support (never needed my protection) for a long time, as His friend and His property. I respect Him all the more for not falling into the uber dom trap of not lowering himself to ask advice from His slave. I have useful things to offer, He sees this and asks for them.
 
If you are uncollared, would such willingness by a Dom be a want/need you'd seek -- or avoid -- in a Dom?

I would always want someone who was able to accept help, support and advice from me even if they didn't use the advice. I find Doms that require constant support and reassurance to be a extreme turn off because it is an unsettling insecurity for any adult to require that, let alone an Owner to need that.




OmegaG -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 8:53:59 AM)

I'm in lust all over again, Softness




softness -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 9:00:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: OmegaG

I'm in lust all over again, Softness


giggles ... what did I do this time?!




OmegaG -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 9:02:59 AM)

oh, all you have to do is be you, but the picture is awesome!




RCdc -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 9:52:07 AM)

The answer to all of your questions is yes, should the dominant I am submitting to desired it.
 
the.dark.




KatyLied -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 11:41:44 AM)

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"collaring up"? .


Every sub/slaves dream.     [:D]




charlotteS -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 12:33:10 PM)

I don't see my willingness to include my partner in my life and share my abilities and assets with him as being strictly a D/s thing.  I think my role as a slave allows me to engage in that type of relationship in a more definthe ed manner but I have always enjoyed sharing with others.  I lived with these two guys for a brief time.  One of them was always keeping track of who owed who how many drinks.  The other guy and I always approached it from a "I've got this round, you get the next" without counting how much they were or if we each bought the same number of rounds.  If someone was clearly taking advantage of me or I really didn't have the resources to help someone I wouldn't but so long as I feel a give and take between me and another person I have no desire to keep careful records of that give and take.  It just comes naturally to me. 

Master moved here to be with me so he came with the clothes on his back and what he could fit in two suitcases.  I helped him through until he could get settled on his own and if I sat down and looked at the numbers I've probably contributed financially far more than he has.  But I don't feel used or as though I've done something wrong. I struggled with it for a bit...thinking I "should" feel used but ultimately had to realize that just because I live in an "every man for himself" society doesn't mean that's how I "should" behave.  I would do everything I've done over again if it meant hanging onto the connection and sense of sharing between us.  He gives me more than I could ever explain in words or would really want to. 

If I ever start feeling frustrated I just remember how it made me feel when my mom got angry about two tupperware containers that my sister and her bf borrowed and how she wasnt' going to get them back.  I thought " I will never value tupperware over my family."

charlotte





BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: What are you Wiling to Give a Dom/me? (6/23/2008 12:54:35 PM)

Your posts often come across as someone who is too paranoid to actually have a real life, in person relationship for all sorts of reasons, including financial issues.

Take away the whole D/s element and you still have two (or more) people in a relationship.  We see evidence of unhealthy, screwed up relationships on here every day.  But we also see some pretty amazing ones as well. 

I cannot imagine a loving, trusting, healthy relationship that did not include taking care of each other, in whatever way is needed at that moment.  Doesn't matter if it's chicken soup or picking up the slack financially, etc.

We don't sit and keep tabs of who paid for what, etc and I wouldn't be with someone who was that nitpicky.  When one is more financially able than the other, we quietly and respectfully pick up the tab, pay for this or that without making a big deal out of it. 

We are both very giving and generous where the other is concerned.  Oh and He gets lots of pies from me..... and cakes..... but mostly pies.  I support His pie habit (not to mention the other firemen at His station).

As to your other questions........
He seeks my opinion on all sorts of stuff, and has told me many times that He values my opinion.

We are protective of each other and our relationship.





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