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Self-caging - 11/5/2005 3:57:46 AM   
slivy


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I do have a cage in which i lock myself up sometimes. A few months ago i met someone on the internet and we share both the same fantasies. He gives me orders, tells me what to do, what to wear, what to eat, how to spend my time, etc... And i like this.
During some weekends he ordered me to lock myself up in my cage and just come out of it the next day at a specific hour. We both agree that this is a little boaring: crawl in the cage, lock the door, try to sleep, wait untill it's time to get out of it and that's it.

I don't have the feeling that i'm really locked up because i have the key always besides me. Yesterday Master asked me if i was ready to mix the key within the food in my bowl when i'm in the cage, and eat it up so i had no choice but wait untill it comes out behind! I thought it was crazy, but afterward i start thinking... what if i look for a small capsule in which a can put the key? How long will it last when it comes out? Are there other risks i don't think about?

Please let me know what you think about it?

slivy,
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RE: Self-caging - 11/5/2005 4:24:26 AM   
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Hi,

You might want to take a look at the health forum, there's a similar question there.

Personally, i think it's a bad idea to swallow the key even in a capsule. What if the capsule breaks and the key gets stuck? What sort of chemicals/metals are in the key and what are the effects of them on you? Will anyone know that you are in the cage if the key doesn't come out and you are stuck in there and will they ring for help for you?

i'd be more inclined to freeze the key in some ice.

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RE: Self-caging - 11/5/2005 5:51:45 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: slivy

I do have a cage in which i lock myself up sometimes. A few months ago i met someone on the internet and we share both the same fantasies. He gives me orders, tells me what to do, what to wear, what to eat, how to spend my time, etc... And i like this.
During some weekends he ordered me to lock myself up in my cage and just come out of it the next day at a specific hour. We both agree that this is a little boaring: crawl in the cage, lock the door, try to sleep, wait untill it's time to get out of it and that's it.

I don't have the feeling that i'm really locked up because i have the key always besides me. Yesterday Master asked me if i was ready to mix the key within the food in my bowl when i'm in the cage, and eat it up so i had no choice but wait untill it comes out behind! I thought it was crazy, but afterward i start thinking... what if i look for a small capsule in which a can put the key? How long will it last when it comes out? Are there other risks i don't think about?

Please let me know what you think about it?

slivy,
xxx


Bad idea. Not only is the stomach acids very powerful and can leave what's left of a smooth capsule with sharp edges. A lot of things can go wrong while you are in the cage. At a minimum I'd keep a phone in the cage so you could at least call 911. There are other ways to lock a cage for a given time. I wall know about the ice cube with the key in it, but here's something from my latest book High Tech Toys that might interest you.

(This is copyrighted material posted by the author. Please do not republished)


One toy that did light up my eyes recently was a dungeon that used electronic locks in a most interesting way. What these electronic locks are really is just very powerful electromagnets, that can be attached to door frames to keep the door from being opened while they are on. By itself, that’s a neat addition to a dungeon, but the creative soul here had gone far beyond that.

The locks are physically simple. They are simple rectangles a few inches deep and a few wide and about six long with a connection for a 12-volt input. The ones she uses are made by Securitron for a bit over $300 each and have a “grab” of about 1200 pounds.

She’s modified ordinary cuffs by removing the clip or tie-offs and replaced them with a thin sheet of mild steel linked to the cuff. For example, one wall has two of the “locks” embedded in it. She has only to turn on the current, put the bottom in position and move the cuff’s metal link near the lock and the bottom is secured in position until the current is turned off.

While this is a professional dungeon, I immediately saw the potential for people who, for reasons of privacy, don’t want to have O-bolts sticking out of the bedroom walls. A muttered “it’s for hanging plants” isn’t all that convincing unless one has a bunch of hundred pound baskets of flowers around. These electromagnets could be positioned behind the sheetrock and be completely invisible to the vanilla visitor.

Electronic locks also have a great potential for being used in a more conventional manner in dungeon or cell doors, possibly by self-bondage enthusiasts. One big advantage is that the Securitron units are failsafe. Should the current be turned off for any reason, the lock releases. This seems like a common-sense precaution in almost any application where a person is restrained. It’s important to keep this in mind when buying electronic locks because many of them are designed to lock should power fail.



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RE: Self-caging - 11/5/2005 2:21:29 PM   
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May be you could look toward something like that :
Timed handcuffs (from 1 to 7 hours, a little more than an icecube )

http://unrestrained.com/html/timecuffs.html

You can also try this :
2: The principle

Have you ever tried opening a combination padlock in the dark? Probably not- to a good approximation it is utterly impossible. Most of the techniques described below use a combination lock - but then who switches the lights on and off? A preset timer switch!

In essence you create a self-bondage setup with a combinatio n lock as a keystone. Program your timer to switch the light off, then back on again in a while. Slip on the wrist loops or whatever, and wait. The lights go out - you're helpless. Eventually the lights come back on, you open the combination lock and you're free. Note that the length of time of helplessness is up to you to choose, but is irrevocable once the exercise is under way.

Shamously copied from http://www.unrealities.com/adult/ssbb/ap2.htm


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RE: Self-caging - 11/5/2005 3:27:13 PM   
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any electronic locking mechanism will work if you plug it into a timer. It can be cheaper to do this than get the timer lock handcuffs, if you have a good hardwear store in your area. Ohh yeah don't eat any keys. Especially when there are so many safe alternatives

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RE: Self-caging - 11/5/2005 4:37:48 PM   
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Here's hoping that these self-caging things have some sort of emergency escape method in case of fire or other serious situation that comes up...personally, i think it's not something someone should do without someone else there....but that someone else must only be willing to open the cage if there is some kind of emergency (i.e. fire or medical situation)

just my two cents.


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RE: Self-caging - 11/5/2005 4:43:56 PM   
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while i find cages to be erotic and humbling i dont think i would wish to take the chance on murphy's law kicking into effect w/ the key.
i would think long and hard about it even after knowing the risks involved

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RE: Self-caging - 11/5/2005 4:54:10 PM   
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I don't remember if Jay or John wrote this (those of you who don't know to whom I refer, should at a minimum find out), I secretly expect it WAS John because, well ... he's just done or been involved in so much monkey business in the course of his lifetime thus far........... but tells the story of self-bondage and in the process of eeling tipped over an electric space heater.............

now, the only iffy thing about any method in which you are unable to get loose of the cage when alone, causes me to start thinking of stupid shit like fire..........

John has recommended a phone inside at the minimum........ I would be less than enthusastic about just a phone. It is sensible, but deep down I am chickenshit............... (although it is practical and sensible, it wouldnt be something I would do.)

No castigation here, just food for thought.

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RE: Self-caging - 11/5/2005 5:26:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I don't remember if Jay or John wrote this (those of you who don't know to whom I refer, should at a minimum find out), I secretly expect it WAS John because, well ... he's just done or been involved in so much monkey business in the course of his lifetime thus far........... but tells the story of self-bondage and in the process of eeling tipped over an electric space heater.............



Electric eels are sorta out of my area of expertise. Guess the honours go to jay

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RE: Self-caging - 11/5/2005 5:41:44 PM   
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That's what I get for being a lazy bastard.

Now I have inferred a writing to the first 'craft' author I ever owned that wasn't his, and inferred an attributable writing of the second 'craft' author I have ever owned to another. I am indeed in the throes of a heineous social and political faux paus. My apologies to you both.

This may help me remember to have facts at hand and to not spew mis-information to the populous.

I went to my bookshelf and looked it up, it was Jay.

Ron



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RE: Self-caging - 11/6/2005 1:17:32 AM   
Wolfie648


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quote:

Have you ever tried opening a combination padlock in the dark?


While there is a fire in the house....

D (owner of j)

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RE: Self-caging - 11/6/2005 1:30:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

One toy that did light up my eyes recently was a dungeon that used electronic locks in a most interesting way. What these electronic locks are really is just very powerful electromagnets, that can be attached to door frames to keep the door from being opened while they are on. By itself, that’s a neat addition to a dungeon, but the creative soul here had gone far beyond that.

The locks are physically simple. They are simple rectangles a few inches deep and a few wide and about six long with a connection for a 12-volt input. The ones she uses are made by Securitron for a bit over $300 each and have a “grab” of about 1200 pounds.

She’s modified ordinary cuffs by removing the clip or tie-offs and replaced them with a thin sheet of mild steel linked to the cuff. For example, one wall has two of the “locks” embedded in it. She has only to turn on the current, put the bottom in position and move the cuff’s metal link near the lock and the bottom is secured in position until the current is turned off.

While this is a professional dungeon, I immediately saw the potential for people who, for reasons of privacy, don’t want to have O-bolts sticking out of the bedroom walls. A muttered “it’s for hanging plants” isn’t all that convincing unless one has a bunch of hundred pound baskets of flowers around. These electromagnets could be positioned behind the sheetrock and be completely invisible to the vanilla visitor.

Electronic locks also have a great potential for being used in a more conventional manner in dungeon or cell doors, possibly by self-bondage enthusiasts. One big advantage is that the Securitron units are failsafe. Should the current be turned off for any reason, the lock releases. This seems like a common-sense precaution in almost any application where a person is restrained. It’s important to keep this in mind when buying electronic locks because many of them are designed to lock should power fail.




John, if I'm reading you correctly, this technique could be adapted (with siome additional expence) so that you can have a slave:

1). Wearing iron cuffs on both wrists and ankles could be:

1a). Pinned to the "fixed" wall by the wrists and ankles.

1b). Suspended by the wrist or wrists and ankles using a suitably modified over head and lowerable unit.

2). Wear iron shot shoes/boots be kept in place bo an adapted unit in the floor.3

Am I correct in this thinking? Sound sci. fi. but I like such toys as a change.

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RE: Self-caging - 11/6/2005 5:48:59 AM   
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A word of advice from an emergency care worker, personally I don't think that would be a very wise thing to do. There's the basic, choking hazard issue and a slew of other safety concerns. Challenging yourself, and trying new things are always a good thing but it's hard to enjoy it if you are in the hospital.


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RE: Self-caging - 11/6/2005 3:00:13 PM   
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For safety reasons I would always make sure someone is around. My subs best friend is aware of her submissive side and will often assist in scenes where I am not around. I did a cage scene with her where I wasn't around because of a business trip. I had her roommate lock her in the cage and then she set up a cam so I was able to view her from my computer at all times. Her roommate only entered the room to give her food, water and to occasionally check on her progress. Other than that she was left in there all weekend with few interruptions. Your safety must always come first though.

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RE: Self-caging - 11/6/2005 5:05:23 PM   
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Another time-release idea. Freeze the key in ice of the desired size. You have to wait till the ice melts to get the key. Low techonology

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RE: Self-caging - 11/7/2005 5:21:15 AM   
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Silvy.
Check with a locksmith and see if there are such things as padlocks with time locks in them.
They would work equally well with everything from cages, to shackles, to stocks, to chastity belts.

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RE: Self-caging - 11/7/2005 6:00:25 AM   
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Wow some great ideas here. And everyone is saying over and over safety 1st.
If you can, look into getting a timer lock that you can have attached to your cage. It's a hi-tech version of the ice cube.
I would not recommend swallowing any metal that has edges. It can do some serious damage to your body.
Make sure you have water to drink and some snacks if you do lock yourself up. And having a phone within reach is a great idea.
Read Gerald’s Game by Stephen King to see what can happen if you don’t…
Tony

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RE: Self-caging - 11/7/2005 8:59:51 AM   
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A couple ideas that just came from a friend include:
a light on a timer with a combo lock,
and one that I'm expanding on ;-)
putting a coiled chain inside a tube, then filling the tube with water. hang the tube over head with the key attached to the chain of course. as the water melts the chain drops, plus you have the cold water dripping on you...
You could even have a webcam aimed at the cage so your Master can enjoy watching you ... and this would give an added safety feature...
Tony

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RE: Self-caging - 11/7/2005 10:04:53 AM   
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candidly, I think it is nuts!!

but good luck.

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RE: Self-caging - 4/14/2007 11:18:24 AM   
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I've thought MANY times about a lock with a timer particularly on a cage, or box, particularly if it was a really artfull one. A few of them could be nice for charity type events too. Thing is it would have to be really simple and rugged. Maybe based on the mechanism of those old mechanical kitchen timers?  I'm sure theres' clock mechanisms heavy duty enough to work a lock but I've never put my hands on one.

I used to have a tight lil wooden crate I would hide out in when my baby was pissed at me. A lock on the outside never seemed to get used. Time, life and available real estate change, and my little box had to go. We made a cerimony out of  throwing it out. I really do provide endless weirdness and chaos in his life.

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