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understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 10:05:31 AM

AngeliqueRaven

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Hi all,

I'm fairly new to all of this so bare with me. I have some questions. I have read about certain fetishes that I'm not necessarily interested in, but I can somewhat understand some people being into them. There are two I just don't understand. Maybe someone who likes these things can explain a bit. I'm fairly open-minded and certainly not judgemental BUT I just cannot understand the fascination with watersports and scat stuff. I understand that some of the best sexual experiences come when there is little inhibition but, for me, part of the whole experience is the sight and scent of everything so I don't get how these things would not be a total turn-off. Can some of you that like it offer up some ideas?

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 10:09:18 AM

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It seems to be largely about humiliation for a lot of people. I had someone explain watersports to me once as being willing to take literally anything her master gave her, and I can see that point of view, too. Personally, I can kind of get watersports (I don't find urine that horrific and can see the value as I described), but scat is just never gonna happen.

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 10:12:33 AM

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I can promise you that toilet games are all about humiliation and providing satisfaction for my dom or domme. Toilet games are not somehing I would do on my own but I get a lot of satifsfaction when it pleases others

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 10:12:41 AM

AngeliqueRaven

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Thanks for your quick response. You know, even if I don't like something, I try to understand it. I tried to watch some downloaded videos of the whole scat thing and literally began to gag so, I don't think that's ever going to happen in any of my encounters either....I don't see myself EVER being THAT dedicated to ANYONE.

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 10:18:57 AM

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I don't understand people who want to feel pain for the pain, and I don't understand monogamy.

Oh well. You will never get everything- it's nice that you want to understand it more and perhaps get a deeper interest in it, but be ok with not getting it. You don't have to get it to respect that others do and encourage them to seek their bliss.

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 10:23:35 AM

AngeliqueRaven

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Thanks so much! Btw...How did I get a little vanilla ice cream cone beside my head? I don't consider myself vanilla exactly..I guess someone does.

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 10:29:01 AM

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as you get into this more, and you find a dom/domme, you will learn more about others and yourself. Don't be afraid to set limits! If scat and watersports are not your thing then make certain that it is known. I am a Master and I personally can not see making my slaves do scat, it can make you super sick, heard of e coli? feces is full of it. So set your limits and don't budge on them. Be a safe and happy slave

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 10:56:16 AM

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Though i don't agree with your terminology in referring to any of this as "bedroom playing", i do understand at least half of what you are asking.. i say half, because like you, scat does nothing for me either.

However, watersports is another matter. For me, the appeal of watersports lies in the humiliation, the pure tingle of pleasure i get from that kind of degredation.
For a lot of us play isn't always a "sexual experience" no matter how uninhibited, nor is it about the aesthetics of what we can see.. Its about the psychological impact of what is being done.

i'm with LA on this one too, there are plenty things which i can't find it in myself to understand the attraction, scat being one of them, but i do have friends who are deeply into that.. i encourage them to follow whatever path makes them happy.

And as for the icecream cone.. it will change eventually as you post more on the forums.

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 11:00:56 AM

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For us, watersports ins't about humiliation. We simply find it extremely bonding to share bodily fluids. And as territory is marked.

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 12:01:42 PM

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For some people, anything that is taboo is an enormous draw. It's the fact that you shouldn't do it which makes it attractive.

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 12:21:02 PM

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For me personally, and a few others I know Scat is hard limit. I honestly can not relate to anybody getting turned on by scat, because it's a turn off for me.

However, watersports is a bit of different thing. The warmth of nasty hot piss on the body. Sure watersports can be humilating to a degree. However, you don't have to dink it. Can be simple as pissing on one another. Urine is really a lot cleaner then you'd think. Even more so if you keep your body well hydrated.

Watersports can be a bit wicked and intimate at the same time.

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 2:05:55 PM

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quote:

How did I get a little vanilla ice cream cone beside my head? I don't consider myself vanilla exactly..I guess someone does.

We all started with the cone, here are the rankings: Forum Rankings

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 5:33:54 PM

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There's another aspect: a male drinking a lot of a womans piss would get a lot of oestrogene (or how do you spell that) as well and would develop ( he has to drink a lot of it) female characteristics. So, it's a powerfull Femdomtool... or fantasy? I just read it, can't be shure about this.

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 6:27:28 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AngeliqueRaven

There are two I just don't understand. Maybe someone who likes these things can explain a bit. I'm fairly open-minded and certainly not judgemental BUT I just cannot understand the fascination with watersports and scat stuff.

If U asked her what she had 4 breakfast
This is what she'd say
Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam
Butterscotch clouds, a tangerine
And a side order of ham
If U set your mind free, baby
Maybe you'd understand
Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam
.....Prince lyrics

In other words: I love the taste and smell of a master and anything that comes out of his body.
I also like to pee when and where I am told and to hold onto my own scat is like a DP.
I am a slave in the bathroom as well as the nedroom.

All you need is an open mind......and some watersproof dust sheets.

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 7:35:26 PM

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quote:

For me, the appeal of watersports lies in the humiliation, the pure tingle of pleasure i get from that kind of degredation.

I have no idea about scat. But when I did watersports, I didn't find it humiliating. It captured the essense of submission for me but in no way did I feel degraded, humiliated, or even humbled by it. It was more like a shared intimacy.

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 7:37:10 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AngeliqueRaven

Hi all,

I'm fairly new to all of this so bare with me. I have some questions. I have read about certain fetishes that I'm not necessarily interested in, but I can somewhat understand some people being into them. There are two I just don't understand. Maybe someone who likes these things can explain a bit. I'm fairly open-minded and certainly not judgemental BUT I just cannot understand the fascination with watersports and scat stuff. I understand that some of the best sexual experiences come when there is little inhibition but, for me, part of the whole experience is the sight and scent of everything so I don't get how these things would not be a total turn-off. Can some of you that like it offer up some ideas?

Usually because some people are stranger than you?

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 11:41:45 PM

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I can't get My head around scat either. However, I enjoy watersports as in pissing on (as Jay) or being pissed on (as violet) ... but I don't see it as humiliation play either. I see it as a deep intimacy, a sharing and connecting. It's something not done all that often so it retains that special connection aspect. If you're well hydrated, the urine isn't very strong and so it's not unpleasant. Also you can start just by peeing down the back of the person, so it's not as confronting. I don't get into drinking the stuff wholesale, as My physiological knowledge tells Me that's not a great idea. A few drops isn't a problem.

I also like pee control games ... watching someone pee, saying things like "release .. and stop!" and getting someone to pee outside (where appropriate). And thankfully Master now has better control over my near-menopausal bladder than i do simply by having been trained to wait for permission!

Hope these insights help the OP to understanding. While I realise you don't have to understand everyone's kink to accept it, I think it is laudable for someone new to try to expand their ideas by finding out how others view something.

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/27/2008 11:58:03 PM

lovepuppy

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with the scat thing, and I'm going into Dr. Frued here so, if you don't agree with the philopshy, you don't have to take any, it's like a buffet, take what you want.

so many sexual ideals are formed in those first 3 years of life, that most of us don't have an adult awareness of our "thing" and the events that led to it becoming our thing....but back to the shit we were talking about, if you're first "sexual" awareness, which I think happens anywhere from birth to death, also happens to involve scat in one form or another...somebody poops around you, your or a sib's diaper is being changed...then you get the proclivity for it...add in events that reinforce this later in life and you end up with a scat fetish (or any other fetish for that matter) and like with foot fetish, it may (also) be an overlap of the brain funciton where sexuality and feet are right next to each other inside the brain when there is a bleed through you get foot fetishes (at least according to the egg-heads who are looking for funding for thier department next year)

to put it more simply, it's either yoru shit or it's not, and if it's not then don't play in the dirt end of the pool but if this is a partner's thing you have to make a choice....now I have absolultely no interest in pirates, but for favorite girls over the years I've strung up my jolly roger because while I don't care abotu pirates they do, and it was worth it to me to see them happy. though I grant you, taking off the eye patch and hat is a lot easier than washing yesterday's lunch out of your hair.

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/28/2008 12:11:34 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AngeliqueRaven

Hi all,

I'm fairly new to all of this so bare with me. I have some questions. I have read about certain fetishes that I'm not necessarily interested in, but I can somewhat understand some people being into them. There are two I just don't understand. Maybe someone who likes these things can explain a bit. I'm fairly open-minded and certainly not judgemental BUT I just cannot understand the fascination with watersports and scat stuff. I understand that some of the best sexual experiences come when there is little inhibition but, for me, part of the whole experience is the sight and scent of everything so I don't get how these things would not be a total turn-off. Can some of you that like it offer up some ideas?

I don't know, not every person was brought up the same or taught the same values. Also, people's version of watersports or scat might be totally different.

I remember seeing a totally grossed out pic of this guy with his mouth wide open and real crap all in and around it.....like intentionally meant to gross you out.....hell, the USENET group was totally grossed out pics, or something along those lines....

I think there are many different variations of this, and its a question of what you're comfortable with. Maybe you can accept your dom crapping on you, as long as its not on your head area.

You know, a fart is similiar to crap, just in smaller doses...much smaller....

If you smell crap, wrap your hand around your mouth like a gas mask, walk & do not talk, until you don't smell crap anymore....

Some couples can handle their significant other pissing in the same room as them, even Vanilla couples......

I once had a girl I was dating ask if I would ever be comfortable with her farting in my presence, I was like, I think this is our last date........

but see, each person has the level of crap their willing to put up with....

I personally haven't gotten into urine play that much, although there are different variations on the theme, how extreme do you want to get. You can have someone piss on your foot, not too extreme, piss all over you, more extreme, piss in your mouth, much more extreme, and piss in your mouth, and enjoy it and swallow it and want more...extreme water sport play......also not that healthy since urea (part of urine) is more of a disenfectant for battle wounds (used in WW1 & 2).

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RE: understanding aspects of bedroom playing - 6/28/2008 2:54:09 PM

AngeliqueRaven

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yeah, I can see that...like fear of "getting caught" is arousing to me

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