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The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/7/2005 8:51:41 AM   
Haileypain


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Yes I am a bitch. But dispite my name. I am not into causing my subs a great deal of pain, discomfort yes, depriving them of treats yes, but a lot of pain, no. I don't get off on it. I enjoy the dominance I have over them and the way they serve me.

I am extremely sexual in nature and use sex as a weapon as well as flogging, biting, paddling, light bondage and so forth. But I have been referred to as a soft Domme, by some of the subs I have had in my service.

Are there any experienced Domme's or Mistress's out here that share this style, that would be willing to share techniques or lend advice? Even if you're a relitively new Domme or Mistress, like myself. Please by all means share. You may already be leaps and bounds ahead of me.

I have but a years experience in the lyfestyle and wish to learn more from those who have a broader knowledge and greater experience in it.

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/7/2005 9:09:08 AM   
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Think of yourself as a SENSUAL domme, not a "soft" one! To say that you are soft, implies that you really are not in control, and that is not the case, is it? There are many dommes who play in a more sensual than sadistic fashion, and in my experience, more subs who are suited to your mode of play than of mine!

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/7/2005 9:12:22 AM   
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Everyone is so critical. In my opinion it is not up for other people to tell you what to do or how you should be doing it, unless of course its something dangerous.
At the end of the day you are the Dominant. It is your right to play how you wish

I think this is an issue bought about playing with people who have their own agenda. If they want to call the shots then they should seek a Pro Domme. The issue is not with you it is with them. They are not submitting. I often find that lifestyle Dommes give a lot of time and energy to other people who then try and call the play (Topping from the Bottom)

So have fun developing YOUR STYLE.
If your play partners are submissive, then they should act in a more respectful manner to YOUR STYLE of play.

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/7/2005 9:15:29 AM   
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While I can be sadistic as a top, it's definitely the fluffy sort in that I want them to ultimately be fulfilled, have their happy headspace and get into the endorphin wave of it.

I'm far more sensual/service oriented and simply allow my intuition to let me go. I use plain touch 75% of the time. Stroking the face, scratching the neck, zoning in on their erogenous zones and playing them until it becomes a sweet agony, where each simple kiss or pat becomes a burning. Sensitize them.

I don't use anything as a "weapon." That's a very interesting choice of words on your part.

But I do use my focus and touch to lead them where I want them to go, to make them desparate and fulfilled at the same time.

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/7/2005 9:19:30 AM   
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I'm very much a novice, but am also extremely sensual.
The way I see it, if you get a man really turned on, you can get him to almost anything. And there are plenty of ways to do that without even touching him. (insert evil manical laugh here)

When most vanillas think of BDSM, they think of being told what to do, bound, but all leading up to sexual gratification. Or you have those that have seen too many old movies, not porn, where they have the woman changed up and tortured,raped, etc. etc. I've found a lot of people that when BDSM is brought up, that's the vision they think of. I know I did too until I'd started researcing about the lifestyle.

It also depends on the people, it's different for everyone. There is nothing wrong with being a sensual Domme as long as that's what you enjoy.

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/7/2005 9:55:25 AM   
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Thank you all, for the surprisingly rapid reply's.

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I don't use anything as a "weapon." That's a very interesting choice of words on your part.


You are correct LuckyAlbatross. That was an interesting choice of words. That may not have been the most appropriate choice of words. I was merely stuck on how to describe what I was trying to say. But after reading other posts in here. I should have used the term "orgasm control" or "Denied sexual gratification" instead of my rather inane "sex as a weapon" discription.

I never realized just how many terms and aspects of the lifestyle there are. And here I thought I knew a fair bit. lol


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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/7/2005 10:21:58 AM   
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I'm not a cold sadist...I'd call myself a sensual Domme tho' I enjoy playing harder with someone who enjoys it and I don't find it a hardship. I enjoy what I enjoy and I prefer to play with subs who enjoy that and there are plenty of subs who respond beautifully to a more sensual approach so maybe some were complimenting you.

Go with what feels comfie to you and ignore the "do me" ones.

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/7/2005 10:49:30 AM   
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How boring would you be after a while if you were this "non-soft domme" that it sounds like your exs have called you?

My partners (including my current slave) have used a variety of terms to describe me: cruel, caring, loving, sadistic, strict, casual, intense, laid back, stressed, sexy, worried, silly, etc. I embrace all of them because this is me! I'm a complex woman.

Sometimes folks don't want complexity -- they want that stereotyped domina they see in the cheap porn mag or video or they want some big mother to take care of them.

How do the subs you'd say you've had the most success with describe you? How does that compare to those who leave and call you "soft"? Which makes you feel better?

Really, isn't this supposed to be a great deal about how you feel about you and yourself?


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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/7/2005 11:53:20 AM   
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quote:

When most vanillas think of BDSM, they think of being told what to do, bound, but all leading up to sexual gratification.

Yes That's what I expect and i've talked with Dommes who do just that. Use spanking and bossing to lead up to rough sex like gang bangs or cock sucking

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/7/2005 1:45:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Think of yourself as a SENSUAL domme, not a "soft" one! To say that you are soft, implies that you really are not in control, and that is not the case, is it? There are many dommes who play in a more sensual than sadistic fashion, and in my experience, more subs who are suited to your mode of play than of mine!

:)Ms F


Yes, that's it!

Am I "soft" because I like to tease my pet for hours,
to crop him without leaving marks,
to tantalize him with all sorts of torments,
yet never give him hard pain?

Nope.

I consider myself a sensual domme, it's a term we use frequently.

Enjoy your style,
flourish in what pleases you,
and your subs will, too.


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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/7/2005 2:54:14 PM   
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Sensual Domme is a great term. There is another term, not so much fun...topping from the bottom. Over the years I have been told I was not a true Dominant because I...did not dress in black latex, do not wear thigh high boots with 6 inch heels, do not have adequate whipping skills (I don't use whips, floggers, but not whips), because I do not inflict hours of pain on a bound and gagged sub (my arm gets tired <grin>), and a long list of other things.

You will run into many ignorant subs, when that happens be grateful that you discovered it that day, and not weeks or months later. There is nothing wrong with finding that you are not compatible with another human. I have told many subs that I cannot meet their needs for extreme pain or extreme bondage. Those things do not interest me. Do not let an angry person shake your confidence, in any area of your life.

Over time you will add and remove things from the list of things that you enjoy. Enjoy the journey.

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/7/2005 8:15:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsIce

Everyone is so critical. In my opinion it is not up for other people to tell you what to do or how you should be doing it, unless of course its something dangerous.
At the end of the day you are the Dominant. It is your right to play how you wish



What *she* said. And the other side of the coin is the type of submissive who is "offering" him/herself to you. I know I feel like a broken record sometimes, but I think life is so much easier with service submissives, not sensation submissives, submissives who get off because they are pleasing *me*, not looking to me to fufill some sort of fantasy for *them* because of what I wear or how hard I'm wielding the implement I'm using. (Though, of course, that does happen on occasion.

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/7/2005 8:53:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Haileypain

Yes I am a bitch. But dispite my name. I am not into causing my subs a great deal of pain, discomfort yes, depriving them of treats yes, but a lot of pain, no. I don't get off on it. I enjoy the dominance I have over them and the way they serve me.

I am extremely sexual in nature and use sex as a weapon as well as flogging, biting, paddling, light bondage and so forth. But I have been referred to as a soft Domme, by some of the subs I have had in my service.

Are there any experienced Domme's or Mistress's out here that share this style, that would be willing to share techniques or lend advice? Even if you're a relitively new Domme or Mistress, like myself. Please by all means share. You may already be leaps and bounds ahead of me.

I have but a years experience in the lyfestyle and wish to learn more from those who have a broader knowledge and greater experience in it.

I AM NOT LOOKING TO EXCHANGE EXPLICIT SEXUAL CONTENT WITH POSERS! I seek real advice from true Mistress's or Domme's.




I have been referred to as a soft Domme.

When I dominate a male, through his own communications on the subject I will initially be able to put him into one of two distinct camps...sexdom or prodom (for wants of better terms). It's easy enough to ask...what is it he is seeking? A sexual experience or a dominant workout? Sometimes you'll get it wrong and the poor lad that wanted a bit of slap and tickle thought they'd be more tickle than slap, or you'll get it right when you thought you were getting it wrong and you'll get called amazing wondering how that happened.

Welcome to the complex world of Female Domination ;)

Through the course of our first session together with a new boy I realised his real kick was his foot fetish and humilation/control fetish. He has a strong ego for young man, very cocky, king of his world attitude, so I begun incorporating foot fetish into the scene. He had to endure the cane first to see how worthy he was of kissing my boots. But initially it was his 'ego' I needed to give a shake-up. He was approaching me for a session more as someone who could do him a service, rather than the commerical element been secondary to the actual experience of him 'serving' me the 'dominant' in the scenario.

When he first turned up we spoke momentarily then he was told to strip and face the wall infront of a table. After a few minutes I re-entered the room, grabbed the back of his head force him to bend over, kicking his feet apart telling him to spread them further, smacked him on the rump hard a couple of times and left the room telling him he dare not move in my absence. I toyed with him for awhile, not caring for his wants but been very direct, assertive and random about mine.

"Get on the floor"
"Get up"
"Bend over"
"Beg"
"Roll over"
"Kiss my boot"
"Don't slober"
"Thank ME"
"How many strokes of my cane do you think your butt should endure for you to be even remotely worthy of kissing my boots again?"
He chose 10 I gave him 20 (everything's immediately double in my dungeon, afterall one does have two cheeks...so until they turn up with half a rump, those are my rules.)

He was not offered the opportunity to orgasm and it never cropped up so to speak and he was duly dispatched with a raw butt and the taste of my boots on his lips. As he left he popped his head back through the door to tell me he 'loved his Mistress'.

The last scene we did together I was less harsh, less strict, less direct than previous times and begun working with his 'his Mistress' buzz, that Mistress in his dreams who is kind and caring but no less in control. After a brief caning I instructed him he was in for a treat and told him to wash my feet, massage, and then kiss my feet. That I was in no hurry and he could kiss and worship, adore and cherish them as much as he wanted. I remember checking in with him at some stage and in response to 'how are you? where are you? after laughing softly, seeing he'd drifted off into some delicious footland, he replied "no idea Mistress, but there is no where else in the world I want to be."

I have had similar reactions from men who have come to see me for dominant workout and got just that. The one thing these scenes always had in common was I took control of the proceedings from the onset. One late night visitor was told to get on his knees the moment he walked through the door and crawl to the playroom. Another was tied up by his own shirt and made to kneel with a bucket on his head till I could be bothered with him. And so on and so on.

Then I have had sessions where it was not about me or domination or service at all. The fantaisers who have a specfic script or want or need. Often I'll find they invaribly can get this need met at a parlour but when they read a dominatrix advert they begin to wonder what it would be like with her...or they've found only pro-doms in their experience have understood the desire for it... ie cross-dressing, many pro-dom and lifestyle women cater specifically to cross-dressers..or they may just like the woman so they see this pro-dom over another or at a parlour.

A lot of people can make the mistake of thinking ALL cross-dressers are seeking a sexual experience, most are not and for this group I tend to allow them to dress and we do 'afternoon tea' or I make them clean if s/he feels like been Cinders of the dungeon, or take them dressed to fetish events and the like...go shopping, do 'girly' stuff.

A good deal of cross-dressers are not submissive when dressed, they actually feel empowered in their role as a 'woman' and you'll find many a top-cd (often wanting to top other men, similar can be found in guys who identify as wanting to be an 'alpha sub' to a dominant woman..sub to her, king of all other men... both ego needs I'd guess).

Then you have the cross-dressers who sexualise femininity, seeing themselves as more desirable, more wanton, more subservient, more pliable then their male self, getting attention normal reserved for 'girls'. Through to 'forced feminisation' where the desire isn't in being dressed as a female, rather in being made to dress (as a female), now you're dressed your a 'whore' or 'slut' or 'bitch' and I'm going to use you like one...at the core its an 'excuse' so they can submit.

Some will be happy with in-session only, whereas others will seek someone to force/fem them 24/7...there it splits off again... where for some its about the domination, keep me humiliated and controlled in pretty pink panties and I'll do as you say... whereas for others they actually *desire* to be 'forced' to be female so the can be made to become that 'whore' or 'slut' or 'bitch' getting used an abused 24/7...the control and responsibility for that not of their doing. A lot of guys have kidnap fantasies akin to this.

Other forced areas are chastity, blackmail, bi-sexual, submission...physical overpowerment/mental overpowerment... all happening for different reasons for the individual, their need for it (domination) to happen this way and that...

Part of the problem for a lot of men who identify as having a need for 'female domination' and get with a so-called 'sensual dominant' is 'sensual dominance' is *too* accommodating. Any woman can deny him orgasm. The sub knows this. It's frustrating for them. Some will stick around in relationships not getting this need for control and subserviences met, then bow, fawn and fall over any woman they perceive as 'strong', identifying as a fem dom or not, and he'll bemoan his partner isn't like that.

A lot of men sigh and ask me how their partner could become more dominant, take more control and lose the guilt of 'womanhood' and control her man the way he desperately needs to be controlled, take their rightful place as his 'superior' and allow him the opportunity to serve and adore her.

Sensual domination doesn't take account of this need to be controlled, to be a secondary creature to his Goddess, Dom, Queen... it's more like it's a dominant kink...and scores of men respond to it...but it's not 'domination' in the sense of what most submissives seek from a dominant experience. It's all fun and games, but the 'accommodating' element of this style of domination is frustrating. It is akin to male doms and fem subs experiences of the dominant been too soft...(in and out of sccenes) which general reads as 'lack of control'...and manifests itself as not wanting to 'upset their sub'.

Someone on here once said the opposites of dominant and submissive weren't themselves but rather indecisiveness and stubborness.

Been too afraid to step into the role of 'the dominant' and actually take charge of 'the submissive' is one of the biggest mistakes newbie (urgh I loathe that term) dominants make in fear of losing the sub...so dom and sub personas are relegated to the bedroom...where even there the sub crys the dom is too soft....and indecisive.

I have subbed in the past so I know how frustrating it is when you have given your mind body and soul over to someone you trust to put you through your paces and their ability to do so has been greatly exaggerated and you find yourselves on different pages.

Try not to do little things like every few minutes or so checking in to see if the sub is 'ok'...subs want to feel like we have their interests as heart but they want to feel like in the scene we are going to put them on a rollercoaster of emotions and experiences that on the surface seems we don't have their interests at heart.

I remember a couple who came to see me...she was a hot little minx, fabulous body, a sexual sensual nymph, mid 40's, petite, gorgeous body...she had been to see me on her own prior to this...part of her need for domination been all her life men had been 'accommodating' of her, fall at her feet...very few men had ever been able to deny her sexually and she wanted a het woman to control her, the thinking been, a straight woman wouldn't be as sexually inamoured with her, and she could turn this woman on sexually..the challenge been to do just that...turn a straight woman bi... but ultimately her desire was for someone to show her husband, who she loved and adored, to 'take control' of her. We scened and part of it I wanted him to deny her sexually...make her beg for his cock, her tied down over a bench, it been inches from her lips... just when she was getting into it and beginning to lose herself in her vocalising of her need to worship his cock, I turn my back and he's getting her to gobble him off...she immediately lost any desire for him...he couldn't understand her need to be denyed by him was inherent in her need to submit at his feet.

Keep asking questions... but pain and control are two very different things... and calling you a 'soft domme' may have very little to do with pain... but rather their belief that you may be to 'easy' on them in the scene... things like not calling them up on moving when you told them they weren't allowed to move...

Introducing things like rituals can help you get a handle on control if you want to move beyond 'sensual domination'... sorry this has turned into bit of an essay so I'll stop now... but hope some of what I've said makes sense and helps a bit.




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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/8/2005 3:58:28 AM   
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I term myself a Sensual Sadist. What that equates to in my mind at least is the ability to mix pain and pleasure until your submissive is a puddle of reactionary flesh.

Am I soft? not overly but I take my sadism then add the pets strokes bites presses and whispers until my boys dont know what they are supposed to be feeling any more.
This of course is more intimate play. With casul play I am more sadistic and less sensual..

Its really all aboutthe connection you have with the sub at your feet. If it works between the two of you who cares what others think?

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/8/2005 4:43:42 AM   
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I made the mistake (several times) this past weekend of calling Mistress a marshmellow. I meant that She is sensitive, deeply caring, considerate and wants me to be as happy and fulfilled as She is.

But unfortunately I said it in the context of not having been physically hurt by Her recently. She was deeply offended.

Now, She could have easily hauled out her canes and tawses and whips and paddles and shown me how wrong I was. But She didn't. She told me that if I wanted a bitch in boots, or a Mistress with a whip in Her hands all the time, I was with the wrong person. She was who She was.

Sadly, I grew up on books illustrated by Klaw and Stanton, and read porn in which the Mistress was usually a mean bitch without care for the men she whipped or hurt or tied up. I got off on those books because that's what I was looking for in them. But I never stopped to think what it would be like to actually live with someone like that. Good god, who would want to?

Much as I crave those things, my deepest subspace is when I am bathing Her, massaging Her feet, in waking up to make Her coffee in the morining and bringing it up to the bedroom on a silver tray. In realizing that I have automatically and unthinkingly risen to get Her something when She asked quietly for it.

Perhaps it is the infrequency of getting the rough stuff, the expectation and anticipation of it which makes me crave it so. It's funny how much we are reading these days about male subs craving enforced chastity, the submissiveness it creates in them. Well maybe sparing the rod doesn't really spoil the sub at all, perhaps it makes him.

Sometimes I tell Her (or want to but don't) that I want to feel more of Her control. But if pressed to explain what that means, I am mostly unable to. Especially if I tried to do so without resort to descriptions which involved toys, being put in bondage, being made to wear a chastity device or being forced to do things I say I don't want to do (but really obviously do want). Those are sensation, and being a man, I crave immersion in the adreniline of sensation, as much as others crave the adreniline of a Nascar crash.

And yet, when I look back on myself and my behavior, how I act daily, I can clearly see the changes She has effected in my behavior and character. I am definitely controlled, and Her submissive.

Keep doing what you want. If he is going to become your submissive, that's what will make him yours.

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/8/2005 6:08:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WalterRego

I made the mistake (several times) this past weekend of calling Mistress a marshmellow.

ROFL that's hysterical because I used to have a screen name of myself called "Mistress Marshmallow" and still refer to myself as that in teasing when people call me soft!

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/8/2005 9:39:04 AM   
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I seek real advice from true Mistress's or Domme's.

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hmm--i HATE true-isms.

whom is to say WHOM is TRUE?

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/8/2005 10:32:46 PM   
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This thread has reminded me of an experience with a sub who was introducing a new activity for me to try, trampling with heels on over his belly button. But even being the sadistic Domme that I am, this sort of activity was too extreme for me. Unfortunately I did not come to my senses before saying yes initially and then changing my mind later on.

The submissive pinned me for being a liar and taunted me for backing out. Needless to say, he was thinking about his own agenda and clearly not the submissive I wish to be with. Everyone has their limits - and whoever you play with should respect that. I am still learning what mine are but at least I am doing what makes me happy.

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/8/2005 10:45:34 PM   
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quote:

This thread has reminded me of an experience with a sub who was introducing a new activity for me to try, trampling with heels on over his belly button. But even being the sadistic Domme that I am, this sort of activity was too extreme for me. Unfortunately I did not come to my senses before saying yes initially and then changing my mind later on.

The submissive pinned me for being a liar and taunted me for backing out. Needless to say, he was thinking about his own agenda and clearly not the submissive I wish to be with. Everyone has their limits - and whoever you play with should respect that. I am still learning what mine are but at least I am doing what makes me happy


Exactly which senses would he have been using in the ER after getting a hernia, ruptured speen, or other life threatening injury due to stomping the abdomin. Call me crazy but I believe that being the Dom/me means having the sense to know when not to do something even when the sub doesn't.

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RE: The hardships of a soft Domme. - 11/8/2005 11:04:17 PM   
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Yes I admit that I made a poor judgement call in that moment of saying yes. We are all entitled to a bad decision once in awhile as no one is perfect. However I did take control of the situation and prevented an ER visit. I hope the next person he seeks will come to the same conclusion.

But the point I was trying to make is not to allow someone to pressure another into an uncomfortable situation - whether it's the Domme or the submissive. So if you are a soft, sensual or sadistic Domme just don't compromise yourself.

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