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Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 8:31:43 AM   
cjan


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Status: offline 		What a concept, eh ? Our brains lie to us, the bastids. I like subtee's sig, wherein she notes, "Don't bekieve everything that you think ".  I know that sometimes, my mind thinks it can kill me and somehow survive the experience.

Anyway, I thought this was an interesting Op Ed piece in todays' NYT. Before the NYT haters start foaming at the mouth, I suggest you read the article. It applies to ALL of us, certainly, me included.  I think it's particularly important to consider this election year and in light of the political dialogues that some of us engage in here in these forums. It may help to temper our views. It's at least, imo, worthy of consideration.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/27/opinion/27aamodt.html




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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 8:37:34 AM   
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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 8:39:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		interesting, Cj... thanks for posting that

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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 8:46:07 AM   
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Consumers of news, for their part, are prone to selectively accept and remember statements that reinforce beliefs they already hold.


Must admit I do that myself.

Interesting read. Thanks, Cjan!

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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 8:49:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		      Nothing new here, Cj.  Propagandists have been relying on these techniques for a very long time.  Multiple sources, multiple interpretations, and most importantly, an individual comfort level with accepting uncertainty, are the best defense against such manipulations.

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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 8:53:04 AM   
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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 9:01:37 AM   
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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 9:03:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		my brain may tend to incriminate me....so why use it?  i am a natural blonde afterall so i have that excuse! 

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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 9:04:11 AM   
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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 9:05:31 AM   
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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 9:07:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I studied this shit 30 years ago, where have you been ?

T


Well, personally i've had better stuff to do than study this shit !!

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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 9:16:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I studied this shit 30 years ago, where have you been ?

T


Well, personally i've had better stuff to do than study this shit !!


You two should get together and produce offspring as interesting and interested as you are. The world never has enough bar maids.


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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 9:16:45 AM   
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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 9:25:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cjan

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I studied this shit 30 years ago, where have you been ?

T


Well, personally i've had better stuff to do than study this shit !!


You two should get together and produce offspring as interesting and interested as you are. The world never has enough bar maids.



Now now pretty one lol.
Firstly it wasn't a dig at you mister over sensitive.
Secondly bar maid? Try licensee. Oh and when i'm actually behind the bar im a bar wench, address me correctly for pitys sake

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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 10:36:49 AM   
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     Nothing new here, Cj.  Propagandists have been relying on these techniques for a very long time. 


Yup... then combine it with some practical applications of cognitive dissonance theory, and you get brainwashing! Somebody needs to put the "new" back in "news"

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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 12:25:16 PM   
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But I do believe that I will be laughing last.

Back to your video game. Y'know if you get really good at certain games, aliens will swoop down and make you a tail gunner. Movies prove everything.

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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 12:26:04 PM   
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Crap.......Does this mean I'm NOT a Tall, Handsome, Charming, Intelligent guy with a 12 inch tool? 


Well hi there.

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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 12:54:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I studied this shit 30 years ago, where have you been ?

T


Well, personally i've had better stuff to do than study this shit !!


B ... b ... b ... but misst ... ~gaspsob~ ... studying this shit is my entire life right now. Bio and cognitive psych are what revolves my world. Now. I must go and study *dun dun DUNNNN* statistics for behavioral scientists, which is (I understand) shockingly similar to a rollicking round of dot-to-dots or maybe paint-by-numbers.

Do I live the life or what?

Heh.

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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 1:37:47 PM   
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RE: Our Brains Lie To Us ! - 6/28/2008 4:11:32 PM   
cjan


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Status: offline 		missterbation and Term , I apologize for going off on you earlier. The only excuse I have is that somebody pissed in my cereal this morning, m'kay ?

The reason I started this thread and linked to the OpEd pice is not that it's particularly "new" news. It's because, having participated in some heated political discussions on here, the piece reminded me of how our minds do, in fact work. I do need to remember , from time to time, so that I can be less attached to my own opinions and views and listen more openly to other points of view and try to be less heatedly reactive. I thought it might be a timely thing to consider in this election year.


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