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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 4:04:33 PM   
camille65


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This thread sure has gone in interesting directions. It's fine that I didn't grasp her actual point, if it was her actual point because without reading it all over again I don't remember seeing her say that it was a piece of ironic satire.
It was the attitude of if someone doesn't understand then they just aren't quite *fill in your favorite, bright, savvy, clever, sophisticated etc*.

I've read many posts by the OP, many of those have indeed been in the vein of satire. They have also revealed an unhappy person. I reacted to the emotion over the actual words which is my pattern. Rarely does it take me in a direction like this thread went.



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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 4:16:30 PM   
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I just read a very similar thread on b.com forums...have to agree though, I am not a lifestyler, I don't live this 24/7 and certainly don't visit these boards daily...I do consider myself a kinkster. . .


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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 4:19:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		i have to say that, as a newcomer to these Forums, one of the things i've struggled with the most is the difference between the American and Australian senses of humour - i tend to take things far too literally and miss the point that the whole thread is meant to be humourous.   i apologise to everyone in advance for the times when i simply don't "get it".   We're not somber and serious folk down here; it's just i'm a little slow.

And, if the BDSM lifestyle is bullshit then i guess i'm paddling knee deep in the brown stuff - long may it continue~!

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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 4:22:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ELUSIVE1

I just read a very similar thread on b.com forums...have to agree though, I am not a lifestyler, I don't live this 24/7 and certainly don't visit these boards daily...I do consider myself a kinkster. . .



i like that, kinkster. to me lifestyle/lifestyler feels sort of clunky (among other things). i've started using kinkster on lj and whatnot as well.


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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 4:36:08 PM   
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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 4:37:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Kinkster is good, I like it - kink just happens to be my lifestyle. What anybody else does or calls themselves is their business.

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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 4:47:59 PM   
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Young subless Doms trying every trick in their rather spartan toolbox of ideas hooking, landing and fucking anything remotely female.


It's like she has a window into my mind.


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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 4:52:36 PM   
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Hey, the subject matter (the 'lifestyle') is so serious and sinister, it's not easy to make fun of, especially on a board where it's taken so seriously .
Yeah, CM has the reputation of being overrun with Twue Bewievers.
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 Humour's subjective, like art - Stella's post may have had an ounce or two of seriousness in it too, which could be what riled people up... I've found that British humour doesn't go down all that well everywhere (unless it's of the slapstick variety, which the whole world understands).
Ounce or two? IMO some of her arrows pierced the bullseye.

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Edit: incidentally, it could be that I 'got' Stella's post because, like her, I don't 'believe' nor do I 'belong' to this lifestyle I keep on hearing about. Perhaps we're just mere dilettantes...

I'm not in any BDSM "lifestyle" either, any more than I'm in a Mercedes owner lifestyle or Hosta and Daylily collector lifestyle.

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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 4:58:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: camille65

Thanks RedMagic.

This thread sure has gone in interesting directions. It's fine that I didn't grasp her actual point, if it was her actual point because without reading it all over again I don't remember seeing her say that it was a piece of ironic satire.
It was the attitude of if someone doesn't understand then they just aren't quite *fill in your favorite, bright, savvy, clever, sophisticated etc*.

I've read many posts by the OP, many of those have indeed been in the vein of satire. They have also revealed an unhappy person. I reacted to the emotion over the actual words which is my pattern. Rarely does it take me in a direction like this thread went.



Dear camille: I have typographically bolded a pertinent point.
You have a purity of perception IMO.


< Message edited by Prinsexx -- 6/30/2008 4:59:22 PM >

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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 5:01:36 PM   
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Young subless Doms trying every trick in their rather spartan toolbox of ideas hooking, landing and fucking anything remotely female.


No complaints from the females yet!

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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 5:12:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've read though the responses. The most noteable absentee is Stella herself.
Much like J. Swift, Beethoven, Rothko. Plath.... a Luther King......and many many more great creators whose work lives on.
I am not being dramatic here but I simply want to include Stella amongst the greats. It's my priviledge to knowher and to have an insight into whom the person is, and the products of that person's creativity.
All creativity IMHO is a result of transcending pain because it's the sheer courage it takes to go out on a limb and simply create something that has never been done before. To be in a place where there is no-one to hold one's hand, to give guidance, to say well done, to encourage, no one to imitate. It can be a place of real poverty, of scarcity of existence. A place that is lonely and dark and cold. And yet there is nowhere other to go to survive than to continue.
Stella is a national icon in the country of her roots, she is an icon for GLBT. She is of this world and many others, she is from the past, in the zeitgeist and foresees the future because she has an intelligence of the heart.
Just wanted to say that. The irony for a soul as encompassing as Stella's is that there's a certain conformity which is worse than any restraint conceiveable...........there's no such ting as edge play when one is the cutting edge.


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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 5:45:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: camille65

Thanks RedMagic.

This thread sure has gone in interesting directions. It's fine that I didn't grasp her actual point, if it was her actual point because without reading it all over again I don't remember seeing her say that it was a piece of ironic satire.
It was the attitude of if someone doesn't understand then they just aren't quite *fill in your favorite, bright, savvy, clever, sophisticated etc*.

I've read many posts by the OP, many of those have indeed been in the vein of satire. They have also revealed an unhappy person. I reacted to the emotion over the actual words which is my pattern. Rarely does it take me in a direction like this thread went.




Don't sweat it, Camille. The two things are not mutually exclusive.

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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 5:56:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

hey..I'm not a Brit and I got it!!  LOL

(hiya KS *smooch*)

Yes you are I have adopted you remember?


*smooches Prinnie*  thanks, darlin!! :)


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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 6:54:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

WhisperSupremacy,
Now THIS is one of the funniest responses on this thread. Not to say that there weren't anymore, but Gawd, do I love this response! Nice! I have never thought of any kind of music being a "hard limit" but I can see  your point! Something about hearing Enya while I am playing hard with a submissive is a little stomach turning to me as well.
 
Second time this week I have heard of the band Cannibal Corpse. Ironic.
 



Heh heh, thanks.....Most people know of Cannibal Corpse from the movie "Ace Ventura: Pet Detective"....remember when Jim Carrey walks into the club and walks up to the guy headbanging,....the band playing on the stage was Cannibal Corpse. 

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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 7:05:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chickpea

something outrageous like the thread title, is just outrageous and to be ignored.   It's when someone systematically, thoughtfully, carefully, and craftily brings about their destructive propaganda, that irks me.


No offense, but it strikes me that one person's destructive propaganda is another person's opinion.

I don't necessarily agree with everything the OP wrote, but I so enjoy reading ideas that are presented systematically, thoughtfully, carefully, and craftily.  


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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 7:08:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: randian

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ORIGINAL: chickpea

something outrageous like the thread title, is just outrageous and to be ignored.   It's when someone systematically, thoughtfully, carefully, and craftily brings about their destructive propaganda, that irks me.


No offense, but it strikes me that one person's destructive propaganda is another person's opinion.

I don't necessarily agree with everything the OP wrote, but I so enjoy reading ideas that are presented systematically, thoughtfully, carefully, and craftily.  




That's how I feel also, the piece was very well written.
I am glad that we are lucky enough to have her post here.
She is a breath of fresh air, and a very talented writer.
Is it necessary to agree with everything someone writes, to
enjoy reading their writing?
I hope not.

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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 8:48:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WhisperSupremacy

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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

WhisperSupremacy,
Now THIS is one of the funniest responses on this thread. Not to say that there weren't anymore, but Gawd, do I love this response! Nice! I have never thought of any kind of music being a "hard limit" but I can see  your point! Something about hearing Enya while I am playing hard with a submissive is a little stomach turning to me as well.
 
Second time this week I have heard of the band Cannibal Corpse. Ironic.
 



Heh heh, thanks.....Most people know of Cannibal Corpse from the movie "Ace Ventura: Pet Detective"....remember when Jim Carrey walks into the club and walks up to the guy headbanging,....the band playing on the stage was Cannibal Corpse. 

Ace Ventura is one of my favorite movies. Thanks for reminding me of where I have heard of them before :)


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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 6/30/2008 11:57:27 PM   
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Oh, and "Darcy&the Dark?" I'm sorry that you don't seem to comprehend empathy. (Yes, I'm apologizing to you... because I find the shortcoming a little sad. Mostly because I've been in that state, of being unable to relate to others emotionally, and I know it really sucks.) But don't worry about it... sometimes these little flaws just take a while to work out. :)


Well, as I said before, I get empathy and I have it - I am sure your reading skills do not lack that much.
I do not accept hate masked in humour - from anyone.
Have a great day.
 
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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 7/1/2008 12:00:09 AM   
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RE: The BDSM lifestyle is just a pile of bullshit.. - 7/1/2008 12:02:56 AM   
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