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Fragments of myself I have discovered and ask assistanc... - 11/8/2005 10:43:53 PM   
kass3


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Some Fragments of Myself I’ve Finally Started to Understand.

I’m going to be frank with you all because truthfully none of you know me and just perhaps some of you might understand me.

I’m 19 and still figuring it all out. I’m working out how I am, how I work, what turns me on and why. The why part I haven’t worked out yet however but the rest I will discuss here. Maybe some of you can shed some light on the why for me.

I am and have considered myself a writer for quite a while, well as long as I can remember, I have had pieces published and have won country wide writing awards. I don’t really want to tell you my real name but I’m so anonymous I don’t think it’ll really matter. Your probably wondering what writing has to do with a liking for bdsm, well except for erotic stories and such. Well the truth is not much; I’ve just found that out myself.

Since I was little I have written two types of stories, those I could show other and those that were private. I instinctively knew the difference, some I didn’t even write down, knowing they were inappropriate. The private ones didn’t become erotic as such until much later but they did have a recurrent theme, a boy (you have to remember I was young) overpowered and dominated by someone (usually female) or some organization and forced into a life, behavior, treatment, action that was against his nature or will. An example that I can give was a boy removed from his family and sent to an school/hospital for treatment for some illusive (probably made up) illness or such and has to undergo a series of treatments, none of them particularly harmful or painful but humiliating, restricting or violating. I’m embarrassed writing about it even now and I know that this is a sympathetic audience!

I always thought I was writing and truthfully thought these stories were an extension of that hobby, I now realize they were the beginning of a desire and took the form of fantasies. This realization has led me to be able to separate the truthful writing from the fantasies and put them where they need to be, the erotica websites. I always thought that my erotic stories were more potent, I didn’t realize they were erotic at all, I didn’t get aroused by them until I started reading other peoples stories but we’ll get to that. I thought that all the pieces that I handed in to school or to other people to read were shadows of these other private pieces. I now realize that they’re not, they are something completely different. This allows me the freedom to work on both sides of my technique without having to combine them, I can learn two different skills and writing styles now and that is liberating.

What is also liberating is that I have finally decided to give this a go. After doing up to a course run at my University which was an introduction to bdsm I discovered that I really didn’t mind being hit with a crop etc, I fact I quite enjoyed it and the mistresses slave offered to test my pain tolerance. I tested my own pain tolerance that night however; I still have the scar on my arm from my scratching (a very stupid move I might add!). And that in reality I also didn’t mind seeing someone hit another, I wasn’t at that point allowed to try it myself but when I do, I imagine I will enjoy that as well.

That was not the first of my explorations however; it was just the first physical one. I read a lot, the first book I ever read that was related to bdsm was Anne Rice’s ‘The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty’ this was the first book that I had a sexual reaction to, I was fourteen. Later I came across an article on ‘The Story of O’ in the paper, I read this also and had an even stronger reaction, this was the first time I started questioning whether my desires were normal both sexual orientation wise and whether I had a deviant sexual desires. It didn’t help me looking up my parents’ old psychology text books from their university days, they classified sadomasochism as a mental illness, not what I needed to hear.

On the question of sexual orientation I think that I am more even when relating to girls, I am able to be dominated to a degree or to dominate but I can never imagine being dominated by a male. Men have enough power in the world as it is, there is no reason I should allow it in my personal life. I respect men however and find it easier to form friendships with men than women, but I find that my female friendships last longer; I get less bored with women, they seem more intricate and I think I would be content in a vanilla relationship with a woman.

There is still a lot I need to work out with myself. I would appreciate any opinions or personal reflections that might help me. I read in an essay that most women only start feeling the need to enter the bdsm ‘lifestyle’ in their late 20s. If that is true than what the hell is with me? If you’ve reached this far then you can tell that I have very little experience, none really, what suggestions do you have for me? Where should I go from here and have I interpreted this all right?
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RE: Fragments of myself I have discovered and ask assis... - 11/8/2005 11:08:51 PM   
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Well, hello, first of all. This is a great, supportive bunch of people on here.

I started noticing my enjoyment for S&M when I was around 17. If you'll do a search for men and women under the age of 22 on this site, I think you'll be astonished. You're most certainly not alone.

My suggestions: Connect with people. Don't just throw an add together and expect people to come find you. Find like minded people who you have things in common with, and network. I don't have a submissive yet, but I have a good number of friends, from this site, and from metting during munches, and real life meets, and I cherish those friendships. Ask people what works for them, and experiment with what works for you.

If you need anyone to talk to, you can always find me under this same nic on the personals side. I think the same would go for pretty much all of the regular posters on this forum. If I've learnt anything, it's that there's no shortage of people willing to help you.

Good luck!

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RE: Fragments of myself I have discovered and ask assis... - 11/8/2005 11:15:34 PM   
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Thank you for your fast reply! It's so great to know that real people are out there. I will definitely use some of your valuable suggestions!

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RE: Fragments of myself I have discovered and ask assis... - 11/8/2005 11:16:54 PM   
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You're welcome

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RE: Fragments of myself I have discovered and ask assis... - 11/8/2005 11:40:30 PM   
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I read in an essay that most women only start feeling the need to enter the bdsm ‘lifestyle’ in their late 20s. If that is true than what the hell is with me? If you’ve reached this far then you can tell that I have very little experience, none really, what suggestions do you have for me? Where should I go from here and have I interpreted this all right?


It sounds like you've pretty much got everything in hand, and are doing the usual over-analysis when starting out

I will say that the whole thing about women finding it in the late 20s (as opposed to at 19) just has more to do with the common stage when people realize they are not being fulfilled by their vanilla relationships, or allow themselves to explore fantasies they always had but felt were "wrong". You're obviously bright, articulate and introspective, which adds up quite clearly to discovering and acknowledging things about yourself earlier.

You also mention that you had a University introduction to BDSM, and actually being exposed to it so early as a legitimate personal choice is historically unusual. I'm only ten years older than you and have seen a huge difference in how much sexual openness and information is available to you at 19, compared to what was available to a 19 year old in 1994 when there was no web to speak of. No doubt many more people are discovering their interests at an early age now that they see they are not "strange" for feeling that way.

Your reasoning and conclusions seem sensible. I know that sometimes its easy to look back with hindsight and reinterpret things we've done as early signs of our Dom/Sub tendencies, but you seem to feel confident that your writing is clearly showing an interest in certain themes that you're only now recognizing. There's no reason to doubt yourself, and your reaction to pain shows at least an above-average curiosity of masochism.

The only "warning" I would give is not to box yourself in too quickly. You may discover that you love to be dominated by men, or submitted to by other women, and that your initial reluctance is due to the strong intellectual feeling that it is "wrong" (" Men have enough power in the world as it is, there is no reason I should allow it in my personal life." -- famous last words!). Just be aware of that possibility. I know that if you had asked me at 15 if I would be a Dom or a Sub I would have guessed Sub -- I KNEW that men shouldn't tell women what to do and that it was wrong for a man to overpower a woman, etc. Unfortunately for my carefully cultivated egalitarianism, it turned out I really liked tying girls up

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RE: Fragments of myself I have discovered and ask assis... - 11/9/2005 12:37:29 AM   
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Thank you for your thoughtful and insightful response. It has raised a few issues that to me are very significant.

It is true that the internet has opened up a whole new world and allowed access to many topics communities (such as this one) that was unaccessable before. The world is a more sexually open place then it was even ten years ago. I read in Cosmo (young womans magazine) the other day an article on a couple who like bdsm and it was presented as a pefectly acceptable sexual practice.

I must note that while the internet has allowed me to access to many resources such as this one, it was not however my primary access to bdsm related material, books were. But this could be caused by my obvious interest in reading extensively.

As I said before, I am very interested in both submission and domination but I am truely new to all this. I have given a bit of thought to it all but now need to get some experience. I will not turn away an experience with an exceptional male dom but I can't imagine it being fulfilled by the experience. However I am the first to admit that I have yet to even tried it. I will try most things once except those illegal or unhygienic things.

Thank you again for your response and I look forward to hearing more from you in the future. You have provided me with plenty to think about.

kass

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RE: Fragments of myself I have discovered and ask assis... - 11/9/2005 1:09:47 AM   
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All I can say is find a local BDSM group. Groups have the attraction of exposure to many different kinks and points of view. It can be an excellent way to further explore and identify your own needs and desires. (It is also a grrrrreat way to meet others...for that experience you need.)

I have only one word of caution for you....avoid what a friend of mine calls "sub frenzy" (I'm sure it can also happen to the other side of that coin...Dom frenzy.) It is a headlong rush to commit yourself to someone...just for the sheer need to commit to the lifestyle. Take your time, take care of yourself first, and have fun in your exploration.

I just want to add that I envy you finding this lifestyle at such a young age. I would have had much less internal struggle had I found it before my late 20's.

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RE: Fragments of myself I have discovered and ask assis... - 11/9/2005 1:58:47 AM   
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I am glad as well that I have been able to discover this early on. It must be hard to change your lifestyle to fit in with your needs so much later in life.

I will be cautious and don't worry I know what I am looking for and they're not just anybody.

I appreciate your advice, i will take it to heart.

kass

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RE: Fragments of myself I have discovered and ask assis... - 11/9/2005 4:05:17 AM   
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You've already been given some good advice. I think Obis made an important point about not boxing yourself in too quickly... there is a LOT yet for you to discover, keep an open mind and try not to approach things with too many preconceptions. Learn to gauge your own reactions to things you experience honestly and listen to that, you'll give yourself a lot of the answers over time.

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ORIGINAL: kass3

I am and have considered myself a writer for quite a while, well as long as I can remember, I have had pieces published and have won country wide writing awards.

Since I was little I have written two types of stories, those I could show other and those that were private.

I always thought that my erotic stories were more potent, I didn’t realize they were erotic at all, I didn’t get aroused by them until I started reading other peoples stories but we’ll get to that. I thought that all the pieces that I handed in to school or to other people to read were shadows of these other private pieces. I now realize that they’re not, they are something completely different. This allows me the freedom to work on both sides of my technique without having to combine them, I can learn two different skills and writing styles now and that is liberating.

I can relate to this very well, I had very similar experiences growing up. I've got about 20 years more experience with it than you and looking back my perspective is that the real difference... what made one feel more potent... was passion. The stories I wrote that were "kinky" or "erotic" were things I felt a passion about. When I discovered other things I also felt passionate about, I found that same potency. For me that turned out to be psychology and philosophy and poetry. You are right, there is no need to combine them, unless you just want too. As a write though, its simply finding your passions, the things that really get your creativity going and enjoying that. You seem to be on the right track with that at an earlier age than I was, congrats and enjoy it!

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I tested my own pain tolerance that night however; I still have the scar on my arm from my scratching (a very stupid move I might add!).

You may have already figured this out... there is a difference between erotic pain... and pain. There is nothing erotic about putting your hand on a hot stove, it hurts. But when you are arroused, when you are in an erotic environment (which does have to be overtly sexual or a physically sexual activity, the suggestion of eroticism can be enough), some forms of pain can be pleasureable... that's erotic pain. The setting, the way things are done, are every bit as important as what is actually done. Something to keep in mind.

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this was the first time I started questioning whether my desires were normal both sexual orientation wise and whether I had a deviant sexual desires. It didn’t help me looking up my parents’ old psychology text books from their university days, they classified sadomasochism as a mental illness, not what I needed to hear.

You aren't the only one who wrestled with that, and I wrestled with it for a lot longer. I was in my mid twenties before I came to terms with it. Its stepping outside the box, exploring new possibilites. Right and wrong are no longer easily judged by what a book says, or convential social mores, you have to stop and really think for yourself, is this right or wrong? That's hard for a lot of people, but I suspect you'll handle it just fine, I get that impression about you. One thing that helped me was reading Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil and On the Geneology of Morals, it made me think and helped me develop my own "tools" for deciding right and wrong for myself. You may be stepping outside convential social values, but you still need to have values of your own... ethics is always a good thing. And as Obis pointed out... becareful you don't step out of one premade box and into another.

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On the question of sexual orientation I think that I am more even when relating to girls, I am able to be dominated to a degree or to dominate but I can never imagine being dominated by a male. Men have enough power in the world as it is, there is no reason I should allow it in my personal life. I respect men however and find it easier to form friendships with men than women, but I find that my female friendships last longer; I get less bored with women, they seem more intricate and I think I would be content in a vanilla relationship with a woman.

I'll add to what Obis said by making a couple of observations, food for thought. In my own life the best relationships began with friendship as the basis. One of the great loves of my life was also my very best friend and its a quality I still look for. From your remarks, my first impression is that you find women more challenging and you enjoy a good challenge, so for now that draws you. That may very well change with time, or not, something else to explore about yourself and decide what is right for you.

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There is still a lot I need to work out with myself. I would appreciate any opinions or personal reflections that might help me. I read in an essay that most women only start feeling the need to enter the bdsm ‘lifestyle’ in their late 20s. If that is true than what the hell is with me? If you’ve reached this far then you can tell that I have very little experience, none really, what suggestions do you have for me? Where should I go from here and have I interpreted this all right?

I think "what is with you" is that you've had access to information at an earlier age than most in previous generations (and I suspect that's going to become more and more common if it hasn't already). I also think you probably have an above average IQ, enjoy challenges, and are quite adept at thinking for yourself... which combined has allowed you to think outside the box more than most, as questions others would not and pursue the answers. You strike me as having a very active mind, that can be a wonderful thing.

If you aren't keeping a journal (and I would be a little surprised if you aren't already) I'd suggest you start. Mine has been a very useful tool for self examination, especially those times when I need to take an objective look at myself.

Based on what you have said, I think you have some questions to ask yourself about why you relate to men and women as you do, where do those ideas and values come from... are they realistic or just stereotypes? You presently list yourself as a switch, nothing wrong with that, but you seem to be questioning whether you are submissive or dominant. That's worth exploring, finding out what each means, the different forms of submission and dominance that exist and the different kinds of relationships that form around them. Some remain switches, that being where they are most comfortable, but I get the impression you tend to be drawn more to one or the other, you just aren't sure which yet. Make friends, talk to people from all parts of this lifestyle, get their perspectives and see what you think of them. You've got your whole life in front of you, take your time and find what's right for you.

Ask lots of questions... most of us here don't mind answering at all... gives us something new to chat about.



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RE: Fragments of myself I have discovered and ask assis... - 11/9/2005 6:02:13 AM   
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quote:

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There is still a lot I need to work out with myself. I would appreciate any opinions or personal reflections that might help me. I read in an essay that most women only start feeling the need to enter the bdsm ‘lifestyle’ in their late 20s.

That's weird, wonder where they got that idea from? It's true that a majority of people are entering the scene these days in their 30s/40s after they get exposed to it online, but most of us have always wanted this for as long as we can remember.

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If that is true than what the hell is with me? If you’ve reached this far then you can tell that I have very little experience, none really, what suggestions do you have for me? Where should I go from here and have I interpreted this all right?

Sounds like you're doing well already. Go back to the class and see what resources they have for you there. Keep asking questions. Figure out what works for you. Expect to not be taken seriously because of your age, but stick around and see what happens.

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RE: Fragments of myself I have discovered and ask assis... - 11/9/2005 8:22:51 AM   
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I’m going to be frank with you all because truthfully none of you know me and just perhaps some of you might understand me.

I’m 19 and still figuring it all out.

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i will try-------to be nice here-----coz "I" don't like hate-mail either....
but really----19? i gotta tell ya-------in all seriousness-----you just aren't experienced enough yet in life to know what you want or need....
you really.....need to kick back and wait your time.....
i am 52---so i have been-there.....and 19 is such a young tender age.....
at 19 i was in service-----overseas.....doing my time.....and as i look back on it now.......i know many many mistakes i made.
regrets? naw. i made decisions that had-to-be, at that time,--
but i know at 52 if i knew then what i know now---ah jeeez.
and we had a different world back then. and yes,.........i grew up in a different environment than you have.
the 50's and 60's were a lot different than now.
and a lot of changing started happening through the 70's and 80's.....

my best advice?.....don't let a lot of things stress you right now. you are far too young yet.
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suggestions??// take your time..........with everything in life.
you have no idea really what the world is about yet.
i WILL give you all the support you ask......coz no one did it for ME.
i have had-to............go through this life..........on my own. MY elders were worthless. all a bunch of self righteous i am better than you are idiots.
so if YOU need------want--------are looking for----------or may sometime in the future.......someone of older years to give you help......
hey........i'm here.
just take it--- s l o w......

take care
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A long undressing - 11/9/2005 8:29:05 AM   
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I'd say you have a reasonable handle on things. These is no prescription or syllabus to follow for this...chart your territory. The above encapsulate what i would have said.

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RE: A long undressing - 11/9/2005 3:32:08 PM   
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I'd just like to say that you've all given me food for thought. And to answer Padriag, I do occasionally keep a journal, but only when I have something to write about.

It’s strange writing here, people seem more genuine and thoughtful than at the collarme site. I appreciate all the time you all took reading my piece and all the help you’ve given me.

It’s certainly given me some direction and a place to head towards. The issue for me now is that I have a lot to learn before I’ll be comfortable entering the ‘lifestyle’ as some put it.

I did put switch because I am truly still working it out. I’m probably more heavily dominant but even that I’m unsure of. It’s a strange thing to work out because for me at least in a normal relationship the ‘pants’ as some puts normally and just naturally occurs in one or the other partner. It’s a different dynamic when approaching this ‘lifestyle’ because it is pre-determined and certain expectations come along with that. You’re probably all going to say, ‘just be yourself’, but there are you must admit certain conventions to having this type of relationship. How do you deal with them when starting out?

I'd just like to say that I appreciate all your help immeasurably.
Kass

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RE: Fragments of myself I have discovered and ask assis... - 11/9/2005 5:12:41 PM   
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quote:

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Since I was little I have written two types of stories, those I could show other and those that were private. I instinctively knew the difference, some I didn’t even write down, knowing they were inappropriate. The private ones didn’t become erotic as such until much later but they did have a recurrent theme, a boy (you have to remember I was young) overpowered and dominated by someone (usually female) or some organization and forced into a life, behavior, treatment, action that was against his nature or will.


I'm a writer as well and have many scraps of stories I wrote in my childhood that had similar themes. The women in my story were often tied up and interrogated...although it's unclear why. (I was maybe 8, what do you expect? LOL)

In my teens I wrote romance after romance, and in reading back, it's clear that all my male heros were dominant and used mental dominantion to control my problematic females.

I think your experience is common, and it's wonderful that you have the internet at your disposal to help with all the discoveries.

Enjoy your journey.

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RE: Fragments of myself I have discovered and ask assis... - 11/9/2005 5:44:54 PM   
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There is still a lot I need to work out with myself. I would appreciate any opinions or personal reflections that might help me. I read in an essay that most women only start feeling the need to enter the bdsm ‘lifestyle’ in their late 20s.

That's weird, wonder where they got that idea from? It's true that a majority of people are entering the scene these days in their 30s/40s after they get exposed to it online, but most of us have always wanted this for as long as we can remember.
i can't speak for all, but yes, many have wanted this for long years.

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RE: A long undressing - 11/10/2005 2:29:58 AM   
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I'd just like to say that you've all given me food for thought. And to answer Padriag, I do occasionally keep a journal, but only when I have something to write about.

It’s strange writing here, people seem more genuine and thoughtful than at the collarme site. I appreciate all the time you all took reading my piece and all the help you’ve given me.

That's because most of us who participate in the forums regularly are actually interested in making friends and just meeting new people, exchanging ideas, etc. Those who only respond to profiles are generally just looking to hook up. So here in the forums you're meeting people who enjoy talking with you, offering advice and listening to your experiences... its more of a community here.

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You’re probably all going to say, ‘just be yourself’, but there are you must admit certain conventions to having this type of relationship. How do you deal with them when starting out?

Part of that really does come from just being yourself. If you have to force your behavior in a direction that doesn't feel natural, it won't last. You can't maintain that and so any relationship based on that wouldn't last either. The problem with being yourself of course is first you have to know who you are, and a lot of people have trouble with that. That's why I suggested the journal since its a good tool for taking a look at yourself over time. Hopefully this discussion is giving you some things to write about, but I also encourage you to take advantage of the opportunities you may have where you live to try new things. Its true experience comes with age... but its also true some gain experience faster because they learn more from each experience. Try to consciously take as much from each experience as you can, make the most of them.

If you're curious about switch relationships where neither is always the dominant or the submissive, talk to some switches who are in relationships and find out how that works for them... talk to several so you get several perspectives.
Talk to dominants, male and female, to get an idea how they approach what they do and what works for them. I've done that myself, talked to Mistresses just to get that different perspective and learned a few things from them over the years.
Talk to different submisives, male, female, sub and slave... get their perspectives, what draws them to that role, what do they get from it.

All that information will give you a lot to think about and ideas of your own. But if you listen to yourself you'll also find parts of it appealing to you more than others and in that you'll get clues about which direction you feel naturally drawn too. If you're comfortable with it and have the opportunity, try some of those roles at a party or something, just to see how it feels... how you respond to it and how others respond to you. For example, if you try being dominant how does that make you feel... are you comfortable with that... how do submissives respond to you, are you able to elicit the kind of response from them you want? Those things will tell you about yourself and help you get to know you.

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I'd just like to say that I appreciate all your help immeasurably.
Kass

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RE: A long undressing - 11/12/2005 3:10:17 AM   
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To wolf... thank you for your message. And yes, i know i am young and don't realise youth's true nature (to believe we have it all worked out and that we will live forever... i can say these things but in truth i will not understand them till i am past my youth, so why dwell on it) ... but that is the fault of all the young. I will take it slow, I have no need at 19 to rush into this without heading all the worthy advice that has been given me on this site, by you and others, i have at decade or more till i am considered fully mature (at least by my standards), but as you say...what are the standards of an inexperienced youth? I will head your advice and thank you for giving it so freely.

To Padriag- I will take you up on your advice to speak to Switches, it seems to me a novel idea to have a relationship within the bdsm world that has such a fluid dynamic. In that , i would like to ask any switches on this site who have this kind of equality within their relationship please post your opinions on the matter so I can learn from you.
I would also appreciate any one elses opinions on the matter as well as how the dynamic within their relationships work, what functions and what doesn't....oh and where the fantasy ends and the reality begins!!!!!!

Thanks Kass

ps. thank you again all who have contributed to this discussion it has been very enlightening so far.

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RE: A long undressing - 11/12/2005 5:30:54 AM   
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kass, you sound like a lovely, intelligent young woman and your pic is beautiful. i think the members who have already posted have given you sound advice, particurlaly Padriag and lonewolf. i wanted to add just a couple of comments.

First; i have been out with a few Doms or Masters and have dated one for a period of time. i initially had a Mentor who approved (or not) any phone contact or real life meeting i thought i wanted. That Mentor saved me from sadists, players and wannabes, and thus, from much heartache. i have the time and i'd be happy to help you as i was helped. It is primarialy an issue of safety; then learning the nature of the BDSM skills and interests; and then finding your boundaries as a BDSM'er.

Second, i want to tell you what 19 was like for me. i was a politico; and marched for everything from "Free Soviet Jews" to "busing". i and my friends believed we were right, about the War and about Nixon, and as it turned out, we were. It is very heady stuff to have the au naurel feeling of knowing all validated by current events. You won't have that validation, but the feeling of knowing all is natural, healthy, and part of the stage of life you are in. However, an inability to identify an issue leads to a blind spot which can lead you to a sorrowful place. i suggest you check in here occassionally and test your ideas; if you receive some contrary views, you may want to exchange some emails or further posts to explore the basis for the opinion. I short, while 19 is a time of great confidence, you are a young woman, lacking some life experience, and may benefit from the POV of others.

Rgardless of what you decide to do -- and please feel free to discard my ideas if they don't feel appropriate to you -- you are always welcome to email me and ask ANYTHING. i generally check my email daily.

candystripper

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RE: A long undressing - 11/12/2005 10:25:54 AM   
redheadedfire4u


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I am into my 40s and only just found the L/s, like many before me I tried hard to be what others said I should be and kept my dirty dark secrets to myself lol
labled and boxed by self rightous vanillas and packed up and sent off, rejected for "all the right reasons", left feeling like a freak all wired up wrong lol It gladens me to see so much information available to the youth of today ... though I am sure it can be confusing it is far better than the lack of my youth ... tolerance of those who are different also seems to be on the up and up which is also pleasant to see ... and sites like this that let people know they are not alone is a very helpful resource .. make the most of it.
In one way I envy you to find others that understand some of what you are and accept you warts and all so to speak at such a young age, I spent most of my life searching for somewhere I belonged, but on the other hand I now have the age and experience to stand by me on this new journey and am not sure I would have been ready for such discovery at your age.
Either way I can find nothing to add to what has already beeen said and find it to be sound advice from well meaning people that has been given to you. just remember life is long and you have plenty of time... don't rush in where angels fear to tread ... take your time and find what feels right for you and enjoy life as it is meant to be enjoyed at your age lol

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