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BadJohn -> Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 5:17:39 PM)

It is easy to cause “pain.”  Stick her with a needle, hit her with a crop, tie the ropes so tight the limb turns blue and becomes cold.  It’s easy.  It’s also easy to play a musical instrument; blow in the trombone, hit the drum, yank the horse hair across the catgut.  But to “play” is not the same as “make music;” “to hurt” isn’t the same as creating a beautiful state through pain.

Some (usually submissive) will say the difference is trust, and that’s a big factor for a lot of people.  Pain is a big, scary thing without the lifeline of control (and what else is “trust” but feeling the situation isn’t out of control) even if the control is in the hands of another.  However, I have met those, admittedly a small minority, who express an aversion to trust, some to the extent that when they find they have developed trust in an individual will move to another.

Another factor is how the pain is received, and this is where the art comes in.  Everyone knows that some masochists prefer thud over sting, and others have the reverse perception.  What is less commonly known is that other sensations are processed in much the same way.   There are also different reactions to the same stimuli in different parts of the body.

For example, in the scene that inspired the short story “The Brat” on the LovingDominant.com website, the uber-masochist watched me layout a needle kit with a small sigh of boredom.  Her attitude changed abruptly when I bypassed her breasts, which she had expected to be my target in favor of a sensitive spot between her toes.  This created the mutually desired effect, much to her surprise.

Aside from different levels of sensitivity, repeated play on one part of the body or another can create the familiar “iron butt” condition just about anywhere.  A male submissive with a teacher/mommy domme had been hit with a ruler so often on his right hand so often as to render it almost insensible to that kind of impact, but screamed quite delightfully when one was used on his left.

To deal with this, I often do a pre-scene with someone who wants to do a intense pain scene.  This has two major (and a number of minor) components.  First, it allows me to study how she responds to pain.  It isn’t unusual to encounter someone with fantasy that write checks their body can’t cash.  (“First Scene Surprise” on the website).  It also allows me to determine where the best points are for me to launch my attack.

The pre-scene is basically a smorgasbord of sensation with a broad number of toys used at different intensities and in different ways.  I take note on what creates what response and I also repeat some routines but in varying sequences so I can check if it is the specific routine or how that routine complements or contracts with another that creates the effect.  This pre-scene includes a lot of conversation.  While some submissives love to share their reactions, some tend to fall into silence.  Quickly finding something that will “get her attention” is one of the goals early in the pre-scene.

Once this sort of information has been allowed to process, I can do a much better when the actual scene takes place a few days later.

It’s like any other kind of music; one must know his instrument.




spanklette -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 5:27:00 PM)

For some reason this brings to mind someone in a white lab coat jotting down copious notes and nodding every once in a while. Oh, and saying things like, "hmmmmm," and "I thought so."  Kinky![;)]
 
Having done this sort of thing, although not exact, I've had both positive and negative responses. Sometimes it makes me feel too much like a lab rat and the rest of the time it makes for a delicious scene.  




ServingGirrl -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 5:42:01 PM)

As a slave who is greatly into pain, i can say that my sensation and enjoyment are directly keyed to my anticipation and level of prior knowledge.   The example of the needles being laid out is perfect - if it becomes a case of "oh, a session with No. 4 flogger again" then the entire scene can be spoiled, whereas the thrill of an ever changing and dynamic response to situations and circumstances, coupled with imagination and variation, can be delicious.   i personally love being bound, prepared and then left alone for some time, then there wuill be one strike of a cane or whatever, followed by another pause, then another strike and so on.   An hour of this can have me literally orgasmic yet in that time i may have been struck less than five times.

My advice would be that the best preparation you can have is in the careful and painstaking (pardon the pun) searching for and entering into a relationship with the right Dom/me.   All else follows from that 




BadJohn -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 6:04:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: spanklette

Having done this sort of thing, although not exact, I've had both positive and negative responses. Sometimes it makes me feel too much like a lab rat and the rest of the time it makes for a delicious scene.  


Oh, but you aren't a lab rat...... there are federal laws about how much I can do to a lab rat.  [evil laugh]




spanklette -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 6:09:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BadJohn

quote:

ORIGINAL: spanklette

Having done this sort of thing, although not exact, I've had both positive and negative responses. Sometimes it makes me feel too much like a lab rat and the rest of the time it makes for a delicious scene.  


Oh, but you aren't a lab rat...... there are federal laws about how much I can do to a lab rat.  [evil laugh]


You bring up a good point...we'll just act like you don't know that I'll be in Florida next week. mmmkay? [:D] 




BadJohn -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 6:13:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: spanklette

You bring up a good point...we'll just act like you don't know that I'll be in Florida next week. mmmkay? [:D] 


Since personal exchanges are against the TOL we'll leave this with a "hmmmmm"




spanklette -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 6:18:57 PM)

On a more serious note, in general, I have enjoyed the actual scene more when the Top has done some research into what I like. I'm not sure that a "pre-scene" is necessary, but if done right it has an enjoyable chemistry all its own. 




daddysliloneds -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 6:19:22 PM)

i enjoy a top that deals with sensation play by starting out slow and mild then working their way up through-out the session; but if you come in with arms aand whips a-wailing then you'll be lucky if this little 5ft firecracker doesn't lite your ass on fire before you know what hits you!




BadJohn -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 7:06:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: daddysliloneds

i enjoy a top that deals with sensation play by starting out slow and mild then working their way up through-out the session; but if you come in with arms aand whips a-wailing then you'll be lucky if this little 5ft firecracker doesn't lite your ass on fire before you know what hits you!


Reminds me of Janet Hardy's safeword:  "If you don't stop that now, I'll rip your tits/balls off when I get loose!"




sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 7:11:29 PM)

I enjoy allot of forms of pain and as some have said I like it better when there is the crescendo of light to heavy. It just gets me warmed up better and my mind and body adjust a whole lot better.




BadJohn -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 7:13:09 PM)

Exactly, I rarely do an extreme pain scene with those I haven't played with a good bit beforehand, but this is more for people I just met who want "the whole thing" right away.

Of course, there are occasions where I formal pre-scene isn't possible.  For example, the scene from which the story "The Brat" derived was a one-time thing.  I was at CapeX delivering a lecture and was asked if they could raffle off a scene with me.  The winner declared she wanted only one thing; she wanted the pain level to go high enough so she'd safeword, never having done that before.

Now, if I'd been a real sadist, I'd have done such a boring scene she's have safeworded just to get it over, but that wouldn't have been fun for me.




mistoferin -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 8:28:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BadJohn
There are also different reactions to the same stimuli in different parts of the body.


There can also be different reactions to the same stimuli on the same parts of the body. What I mean by that is the way the bottom processes the pain is dependent on many things besides the instrument, location and intensity.

As an example I will point to a scene that I was involved in a month or so ago. The scene was a simple heavy impact scene...one not too unlike countless others I have done. But each scene, even though the same implements may be used on the same areas with the same intensity by the same person, is different.

This scene started out on the wrong foot. It was kind of a spur of the moment thing so there was no time for me to try to get my head "right" before going into it. Sir and I didn't get an opportunity to get away alone for a few minutes beforehand to get in sync. There was some negative energy going on in the environment around us. I got up on the cross and before Sir even gave me his first touch or took his first swing, much to my surprise tears began to flow. My headspace was all wrong...even to the point of feeling that panicky feeling of the flight response. I could have stopped it right there I guess but I wanted to overcome it even more. To compound matters even more there was a problem with the music and it kept starting and stopping. Music is one of the tools I use to center myself going in.

When Sir started to strike me the pain was far more intense than I normally perceive it to be...and we were only just beginning. It wasn't that he was doing anything that I wasn't accustomed to or any more intensely....it just felt that way. If anything he may have been being a bit more cautious as he was monitoring the struggle I was having and it was something that is definitely unusual for me. I finally was able to overcome it eventually but it definitely was a struggle. I ended up spacing....but even space that night was a funky place.





chellekitty -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 8:54:12 PM)

personally the enviorment has a lot to do with how much pain i can take due to my fibromyalgia...if it's cool or damp, i am a wuss...but if the Dom is sweating by the end of the "warm up" (read - getting me trussed up) i am ready for pain - yes i have said "you're not hurting me" and "is that all you have" and not regretted it....but like i said...cool - air conditioning, fan, winter time, or damp - its raining or needs to rain outside, and my body craps out on me...

oh and don't forget the pmdd...blah...

chelle




Prinsexx -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 10:07:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: chellekitty

personally the enviorment has a lot to do with how much pain

chelle


I agree. The environment is a s much part of the equipment. The analogy of drug use comes to mind.
Put a junkie completely in new surroundings and their sensitivity returns.
Now the problem for me has been that this has tended to make me promiscuous ....as a new person invokes sensitivity and a long term relationships invokes tolerance.
Does that make sense? Not good I agree but I am working on it.






BadJohn -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/1/2008 10:22:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

quote:

ORIGINAL: chellekitty

personally the enviorment has a lot to do with how much pain

chelle


I agree. The environment is a s much part of the equipment. The analogy of drug use comes to mind.
Put a junkie completely in new surroundings and their sensitivity returns.
Now the problem for me has been that this has tended to make me promiscuous ....as a new person invokes sensitivity and a long term relationships invokes tolerance.
Does that make sense? Not good I agree but I am working on it.





All of these replies make a lot of sense.  One of the reasons I put this out was to see others add to it, and I'm overjoyed at how it's working out.

And Prinsexx, you've given me a new reason for being poly... not that a slut like me needed one




Prinsexx -> RE: Preparing for the pain scene (7/2/2008 12:13:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BadJohn

quote:

ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

quote:

ORIGINAL: chellekitty

personally the enviorment has a lot to do with how much pain

chelle


I agree. The environment is a s much part of the equipment. The analogy of drug use comes to mind.
Put a junkie completely in new surroundings and their sensitivity returns.
Now the problem for me has been that this has tended to make me promiscuous ....as a new person invokes sensitivity and a long term relationships invokes tolerance.
Does that make sense? Not good I agree but I am working on it.





All of these replies make a lot of sense.  One of the reasons I put this out was to see others add to it, and I'm overjoyed at how it's working out.

And Prinsexx, you've given me a new reason for being poly... not that a slut like me needed one

If you needed a new reason to be poly then I am glad my suggestion helped.
But a monogamist could just as easily keep changing location: bedroom, hitchen, dek top....stairs....car park......as the estate agents do say: location, location, location
.




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