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DomAviator -> RE: Senator Obama on improving veterans care (7/5/2008 11:06:33 AM)
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Or if the dregs of humanity would stop trying to blame their substance abuse problems on their military service, we wouldnt have the homeless problem either.
I am not homeless. Neither was my dad. None of the vets in my neighborhood are homeless.... None of us have substance abuse problems. (although I smoke too many cigarettes and there is a couple of guys who drink more than they probably should - but not to the point of compromising their work life. Ie they will come home from work and get a buzz going... Thats probably due to the stress of their careers more so than their time in the service. I know thats why I smoke as much as I do...)
I am sure this will light a few tampon strings but I will say it anyway.... Just because someone is a veteran doesnt mean they aren't a piece of dog shit. Like any group there is good and bad in the military. As an officer I have to say there were enlisted sailors on my ships who were the absolute salt of the earth and there were low life scumbags that we wished we could shoot and toss overboard and then keelhaul the recruiters who sent these pieces of shit to us. Just because someone puts on a uniform doesnt make them a saint. They may be there because a judge gave them a choice join for a dismissal, or because they had nowhere else to go so the military just delayed their homelessness by the length of their enlistment. Ive seen plenty of FTN (Fuck the Navy) tattoos, and I dont think thats something that a dedicated patriotic recruit committed to serving with pride in the Navy would get... Invariably, they were on the slackers....
This is in the days of the all volunteer service, during the draft it was even worse because when you tossed out the net - you brought in all kinds.
That is why we have such problems with the Vietnam vets. Because many of them were pieces of shit hauled in out of the ghettos and trailerparks of america by the draft lottery. They already had substance abuse problems or a predisposition to them, they already were less than prime recruits conscripted in rather than joining out of patriotism. Many of them couldnt even make it in under the standards for todays volunteer service. They would have been homeless drug addicted dregs if we left them on the streets of Harlem or in that Skinhead trailerpark in Idaho, but sending them to Vietnam just delayed the inevitable. Some we actually saved. Some found the military discipline gave them purpose and changed their live and let them escape their destiny.
I am sick to death of hearing about "homeless vets". They are a disgrace to the uniform, and there is no excuse for it. Nobody needs to "help them" they are just plain fucked up and what they need is to cowboy up and get their shit squared away. If they are fit to be called vets, they should have gotten enough discipline instilled in them to enable them to put the crack pipe or bottle down, and to get their asses to work every morning. These are supposed to be tough disciplined unstoppable men who dont know the word "quit", not crybaby candyasses who lay around whining that nobody is helping them and things are tough....
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