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Transience - 7/8/2008 12:06:01 AM   
Lumus


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I am naked - an autonomous vessel wrapped at times in clothing; sometimes, in rationale; rarely anything else.

Directed as much towards the practice of the sexual and psychosexual acts collectively ascribed the moniker of 'BDSM' as it is the site, this bit of rant is meant to provoke thought, nothing more.  With the disclaimer aside [and how foul a taste that is], to the purpose.

There is a fluid concept that rolls around the forums, wallowing in some threads [troughs?] deeper than others, and that concept is transience.  There is only one way!  This is the most common rhetorical cry that beggars the evocation of mutability, and with good reason, being that many ways find one solution [and vice versa].

Yet the practice of transience only lends to the existence of things; "this may be", not "this is".  Here, in theory, we embrace a different facet than the one proposed, and so perhaps the conclusion may yet be reached.  Theory is not execution; it is safer than execution.  I use the word deliberately; when the time comes to make a choice - about anything - all other options are temporarily, if not permanently, cast aside.

"I have a problem!" - This certainly echoes in the caves of the server's electrons often enough.  The cry is heard, the message submitted for all and sundry.  Now what?  When you read the text of the cry, do you hear subtext; and to which do you react when composing your own shout into the wilderness?  Do you pause and reflect on the chorus of replies; do they change the vibration of your thoughts?  Do you reply at all, or move on instead?  The answer to this from an administrative view is just as fluid; beyond TOS and forum guidelines, there are no hard rules to what is and is not allowed.  There is no mission statement for CollarMe, no single goal beyond the perpetuity of happiness.  When I hear a cry in the wilderness, I may look, and if I do, I may respond to the OP or to a missive that seems poignant.  The situation is taken in, internalized, personalized, and any drop of water I fling into the ocean carries all of my bias and experience.  Yet the end of it all rests in the hands of the one who began the thread - they do as they will; with the rare intervention of a moderator acting under the principles of the aforementioned machines of rule.  What worth is a cry back into the caves, then?  What strength does an echo carry [and this can be crystallized should you ever read something that strikes an offensive chord within yourself]?  What is the point, the purpose, the reason to reply?  Again, the answer becomes personal - and again, the caveats of transience apply.

The sight of the goal seems to be the thing.  There is a solution; there is information; there is empirical evidence.  Response invites closure.  We talk, banter, argue, with fonts and underscores, italicized words and colour, images and imagery incorporated to refine this intent.  We shrink away from what appears wrong - which is to say, we grow towards what we think is right.  The feeling, this religious orgasm we have that tells us a thing is meant to be in this fashion, guides us towards the inevitable cry that will never strike the exact chord in the being of another.  To pretend otherwise undermines the uniqueness of our individual totality.

This same fluid approach is in our everyday lives, where the sexual and psychosexual aspects of our being lurk.  Sex can be had in the same room, in the same position, at the same time of every Monday; despite all safeguards that might be put in place, things cannot always sound or smell the same.  This is not the flapping of butterfly wings, rather an acknowledgment that all variables cannot be contained.  A goal is set in sight, the Holy Grail of pain, degradation, the exercise of controlling or submitting, with or without the orgasm [though it ends up on a few lists].  Even if the goal were made static, the methodology is not necessarily so; and the same actions, dutifully performed without change will not always provide the same reaction.  [To wit - they might cum less.]  The Master needs a servant, the servant needs direction; this is not, however, an advertisement for an escort service or a mapmaker.  Nor is it a digression intended to provoke the label-mongers...hie thee to a thesaurus!  What passes for common sense and personal ethics might pare down the avenues; these too, change in time, by introspection or a fatal car crash - a lack of firing synapses does wonders for altering the mind.

The message intended, then, is this:  do not expect or anticipate that which seems graven in stone, unless you are willing to embrace the possibility of its opposite, or its perversion [simple clumsiness may cause the problem; there were Fifteen Commandments, once...].  We all aim for goals of one sort or another, online or off.  Cry into the wilderness, and be true to the words, even when they come back to haunt you.  Try a different day of the week...it could be digestion at the root of your erectile dysfunction.  And lastly, know this:

What you think is not always real; what you want is not always what you think; what you need is not always what you want.

[This rant was brought to you by the heat of my apartment; the refusal of my synapses to stop dancing; the letter L; and of course, electricity.  You may return to your regularly scheduled chaos.  Thank you.]



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RE: Transience - 7/8/2008 1:31:29 AM   
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Lumus my friend:
i do not think i shall ever be the same again after reading your words.......all before coffee as well....
You have the mind of a man insoired by the heart of a good woman methinks....(sorry about the genderisation but you know when opposites attract there tends to be fusion).
I'm trying to get a handle on what you are expressing. I see you crying into the night sky, from the compexity of your mind, shouting at the stars....but the paradox is only silence gets back to you.
i'd like to use the word transformation. A change of state. Wow, now there's a thought i'm having here even before breakfast even.
Pain transformed into pleasure, separateness into wholeness, two into one, perversion into acceptability, singularity into community, amd so forth.
When i was vanilla i never had this sense of tranformation. i felt held back by sociological confines of class, held back by psychologivcal confines of guilt and totally stunted in the expressiveness of my body.
bdsm is only in part behavioural for me. Anybody who takes the care to read my rants here will know that i have a hawk's eye for the strictky come behaving crew. i like to dance brother, dance.
But anyway i understand, i feel, what it is you are saying.
Oh and i forgot to add; transformation from darkness into light, from the profane to the sacred.
i'm in love as well Lumus. Thank god for Indigowolf and i always knew there was a purpose as to why i felt collarme to be one of my spiritual homes.
i respect you Lumus.and love to your Lady also.
Prin xx



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RE: Transience - 7/8/2008 2:29:18 AM   
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I've been a CM message board junkie for awhile.  I've been doing a lot of introspection for the last year or so.   I too have my own set of experiences with certain amount of bias too.

While there is no such thing as a "true one wayesm" about the things people do when it comes to BDSM.   It's been great to come here, share things, see who else has similar things in common or not.  To even find differences and wrap some thought about those things as well.

For instance, how common or uncommon is it for a Dom/me to have a maso streak.   To be able to connect with other other Doms with a maso streak.  Things that don't fit into the stereotypes of what a Dom should or should not be.   Yes, I have discovered a number of similar Misfits.   Let's just say, I don't feel like such a misfit anymore.

Even more so when it comes to sadomaso things.  I made a post about "Maso Reset Buttons".  Had nothing to do with orientation.  It was great the number of post that came in from fellow maso types/  No posturing or bullshit.  Still, the "reset button" was something I got to wondering about, about how common or uncommon it was.   I've never really sat down and put much thought about this, let alone talk about it with many people.   Here on CM though, it's wonderful to connection with BDSMers and talk about BDSM.

I've never been big on trying to fit into a stereotype.   I've been doing BDSM basically my way.  Actually was doing BDSM before I knew shit about the so called "lifestyle".   When I Discover the lifestyle and I keep on going, being the same person that I am.  The only thing different was clearer understanding of the labels and meanings.  That I could connect to a whole sub-culture.  

However, in many regards I shunned "the lifestyle" as much as I embraced it.  The ugly trappings of stereotypes and one way thinking.  All that fun stuff, that is debated here on the message boards. 

The internet has been a GOD Send in many regards, because I have come to realize just how much I have in common with other people.  Some of the things that don't fit the ONE Wayesms of stereotypes.

Dare, I express this.  I had some serious reservations when I first started using the message board here.  Mainly because of the stereotypes and one way lines of thinking.

So far this message board, is the best one on the internet in my opinion when it comes to BDSM.   
 

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RE: Transience - 7/8/2008 2:55:42 AM   
Prinsexx


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner4SexSlave

I made a post about "Maso Reset Buttons".  Had nothing to do with orientation.


Now that re-set botton thread was also amazing i thought. Because the masochistic need is quite difficult to explain to others, and the psychological theory isn't that well written up yet either BUT the way you phrased it made it connect and look well....os so simple...oh so good....
The msao-reset concept is one of those concepts that i would call transormational because it explained  to me in your own way how you transform the (perverse) need for pain into pleasure and getting straight again.
It also made me realise that although i had thought my masochism had everything to do with orientatin (and therefore looking for a sadist to come do it to me) it made me realise that i could incorporate many and much of my self-defeating, dysfunctional and self-deprecating feelings into the moulsd.  Like if there's no-one there to hurt me i will hurt myself anyways.
So: self-transformation you might call it also. At least when i am hurting myself i am not cutting up worms or putting the cat into the micro-wave....time for breakfast though i think.
Thanks as well to you owner4sex.
prin x



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RE: Transience - 7/8/2008 7:03:23 AM   
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I can only do things that feel right for me in the moment.
 
I can judge my own rightness by deciding whether it's consequences for myself,and my associates will have a postitve or negative outcome..
 
 I can decide if the payoff in a relationship will give me the payback I want for the time and work involved. I can decide to say no if I feel it will be too much for too little.
 
 

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RE: Transience - 7/8/2008 12:28:06 PM   
Lumus


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Leatherist

I can only do things that feel right for me in the moment.
 
I can judge my own rightness by deciding whether it's consequences for myself,and my associates will have a postitve or negative outcome..
 
 I can decide if the payoff in a relationship will give me the payback I want for the time and work involved. I can decide to say no if I feel it will be too much for too little.


Precisely.

[The erectile dynfunctional comment wasn't aimed at you, by the way.]



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RE: Transience - 7/8/2008 12:50:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lumus

Cry into the wilderness, and be true to the words, even when they come back to haunt you. 

What you think is not always real; what you want is not always what you think; what you need is not always what you want.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Leatherist
I can only do things that feel right for me in the moment.
 I can judge my own rightness by deciding whether it's consequences for myself,and my associates will have a positive or negative outcome..
  I can decide if the payoff in a relationship will give me the payback I want for the time and work involved. I can decide to say no if I feel it will be too much for too little.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner4SexSlave
I've never been big on trying to fit into a stereotype.   I've been doing BDSM basically my way.  Actually was doing BDSM before I knew shit about the so called "lifestyle". 


Well said gentlemen. There are many who should listen and try to understand.
There are many who will never grasp the concepts of a community that doesn't demand sameness.
Celebrate your life and pursue your path. Following someone else's because you can't find your own shows a weakness of spirit. Learn from others as they can learn from you. But, be true to what is inside you.


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RE: Transience - 7/8/2008 5:29:43 PM   
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*hides her label-maker and pretends to read her thesaurus*




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