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DomAviator -> Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 4:24:52 AM)
Well just when I thought it was impossible, former President Billy Blowjob has reached a new low! Slick Willy has decided to attack POW's with the following remark: "Everybody… If you know anybody who was a P.O.W. for any length of time, you will see, you go along for months or maybe even years and then something will happen and it will trigger all those bad dreams, and it will come back…" http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/bill-clinton-in.html How touching... The lying cheat who avoided service by bailing out on his ROTC class with an "I loathe the military" letter and who ran off to England is now an expert on Prisoners of War and is warning us about their mental stabilty??? Well isnt that special? Gee, I wonder what causes one to be a serial adulterer who sexually harrasses every woman he comes in contact with??? Perhaps Clinton can offer some insight into that topic? Id love to see how the liberals defend this one... Next thing you know they are going to be demanding that McCain be billed for the cost of the A-4 he lost. Unbelieveable the depths they will sink to... Now what I would like to see is if Obama will denounce the remark...

camille65 -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 4:33:24 AM)
IMO Goldberg was reading too much into it.

DomAviator -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 4:51:00 AM)
The "I was talking about Neslson Mandela" excuse doesnt fly unless Clinton is an absolute idiot. Mandela was never a POW, he was a common criminal, and arguably a terrorist, who was tried, convicted, and sentenced to life in prison for an admitted 221 acts of sabatoge against courts, post offices, and other govt buildings. He himself admitted to the sabotage... Mandela was never a POW, he was a convicted criminal. (and being of Afrikaaner ancestry I strongly feel that they should have executed him, a lot of innocent people died in Mandela's "sabotage". Bombing govt buildings is generally frowned upon in any country. The man was the South African Timothy McVeigh and he kept it up even from his prison - the church street bombing he ordered killed 19 and wounded 200+) So if he was talking about Mandela Clinton should have said If you know anybody who was an incarcerated felon for any length of time. He said P.O.W so he couldnt have been talking about Mandela, who had an outstanding arrest warrant for 13 months, before he was turned in by our CIA ... POW's are captured in the battle and detained till the end of hostilities, not picked up on a warrant, tried, convicted, and sentenced by a civilian court.

rulemylife -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 4:55:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomAviator Well just when I thought it was impossible, former President Billy Blowjob has reached a new low! Slick Willy has decided to attack POW's with the following remark: "Everybody… If you know anybody who was a P.O.W. for any length of time, you will see, you go along for months or maybe even years and then something will happen and it will trigger all those bad dreams, and it will come back…" http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/bill-clinton-in.html How touching... The lying cheat who avoided service by bailing out on his ROTC class with an "I loathe the military" letter and who ran off to England is now an expert on Prisoners of War and is warning us about their mental stabilty??? Well isnt that special? Gee, I wonder what causes one to be a serial adulterer who sexually harrasses every woman he comes in contact with??? Perhaps Clinton can offer some insight into that topic? Id love to see how the liberals defend this one... Next thing you know they are going to be demanding that McCain be billed for the cost of the A-4 he lost. Unbelieveable the depths they will sink to... Now what I would like to see is if Obama will denounce the remark... Let's see......................hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................let me try. It was a vague reference in a conversation that was centered on Nelson Mandela's imprisonment, taken totally out of context so you and the other Republicans can blow it out of of proportion and somehow attribute the remark to Obama. Am I on the right track here? Let me know if I'm wrong cause I'm just one of "dem dumb demercrats." As long as you brought up avoiding service, maybe you can explain why you are not as upset at our current President who spent the Vietnam War defending the shores of Texas and Alabama from the imminent Vietcong invasion. Or our heroic Vice-President who managed to get five student deferments but has no remorse about advocating a war that has seen others less cowardly lose their lives.

farglebargle -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 5:10:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomAviator Well just when I thought it was impossible, former President Billy Blowjob has reached a new low! Slick Willy has decided to attack POW's with the following remark: "Everybody… If you know anybody who was a P.O.W. for any length of time, you will see, you go along for months or maybe even years and then something will happen and it will trigger all those bad dreams, and it will come back…" http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/bill-clinton-in.html How touching... The lying cheat who avoided service by bailing out on his ROTC class with an "I loathe the military" letter and who ran off to England is now an expert on Prisoners of War and is warning us about their mental stabilty??? Well isnt that special? Gee, I wonder what causes one to be a serial adulterer who sexually harrasses every woman he comes in contact with??? Perhaps Clinton can offer some insight into that topic? Id love to see how the liberals defend this one... Next thing you know they are going to be demanding that McCain be billed for the cost of the A-4 he lost. Unbelieveable the depths they will sink to... Now what I would like to see is if Obama will denounce the remark... If it was OK to swift-boat Kerry's service, then McCain better be able to stand the heat -- Or he should get out of the Kitchen. I'm not worried about flashbacks, I'm worried about senile dementia. The way he flip-flopped on torture isn't encouraging. If he's forgetting his own torture, that ain't a good sign. FWIW, McCain is really old, and at his age, shouldn't have to deal with the stress. He should just retire. Of course, then he wouldn't collect his quid-pro-quo for going along with W's election years ago.

Owner59 -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 7:12:31 AM)
How do you feel about someone who`s AWOL, domaviator? AWOL at a time of war,no less. Haven`t soldiers been executed in the past,for being AWOL at a time of war? Certainly ,at the very least,thrown in the brig? And most certainly not nominated for president, by republicans.

slvemike4u -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 7:17:17 AM)
Is Bill Clinton running for office again?....sheesh I thought Bill was 2 and done!

DomKen -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 7:22:20 AM)
Does anybody really think Senator McCain doesn't have PTSD? He displays all the classic symptoms and won't reveal all of his medical records for review. I don't think having PTSD should disqualify someone from the presidency but we should have the details so as to make an informed decision.

slvemike4u -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 7:27:21 AM)
Hell ,how scary would it be if he doesn't have PTSD

slvemike4u -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 7:29:54 AM)
Just wondering if the characterisation of Mandela as a criminal rather than a freedom fighter/revolutionary ,hell a terrorist even, is a covert or overt support of apartheid

Owner59 -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 7:33:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Does anybody really think Senator McCain doesn't have PTSD? He displays all the classic symptoms and won't reveal all of his medical records for review. I don't think having PTSD should disqualify someone from the presidency but we should have the details so as to make an informed decision. McCain has said as much,openly and often.He`s been quite honest about it. He`s sought profetional help,which is healthy and helps him cope with the lasting affects of his prolonged, brutal treatment as a POW. I think the OP is so bored today, that he`s quoting blogs and letting them do his thinking for him.

DomKen -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 7:36:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Just wondering if the characterisation of Mandela as a criminal rather than a freedom fighter/revolutionary hell terrorist is a covert or overt support of apartheid DA is a bigot and probably did support apartheid but that doesn't change the facts. Mandela was a terrorist and the ANC was a terrorist organization.

Owner59 -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 7:36:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Just wondering if the characterisation of Mandela as a criminal rather than a freedom fighter/revolutionary hell terrorist is a covert or overt support of apartheid Oh, quite overt and conscious.

Lucylastic -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 7:44:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Just wondering if the characterisation of Mandela as a criminal rather than a freedom fighter/revolutionary hell terrorist is a covert or overt support of apartheid Definitely overt

jlf1961 -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 7:51:04 AM)
I am not getting into an arguement dealing with symantics on what constitutes a POW, Imprisoned Freedom Fighter, Terrorist, or just a plain nutcase. I will say that no one who has not served in the military has the right to condemn or question the motives, abilities, or service history. That said, the fact that Bill Clinton AND President Bush dodged military service in some of the most obvious and blantent ways possible are matters of public record. As for Nelson Mandela, depending on your perspective, he is either a freedom fighter or a common criminal, much the same way as Leonard Peltier, or any one of hundreds of imprisoned IRA members. It is nothing more than symatics. "Only the dead have seen the end of war."* * _Plato "Only fools seek power, and the greatest fools seek it through force."* * _Lao Zi "It is generally inadvisable to eject directly over the area you just bombed"* * _U.S. Air Force flight training manual

slvemike4u -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 7:52:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Just wondering if the characterisation of Mandela as a criminal rather than a freedom fighter/revolutionary hell terrorist is a covert or overt support of apartheid DA is a bigot and probably did support apartheid but that doesn't change the facts. Mandela was a terrorist and the ANC was a terrorist organization. Not sure that I have a problem with that statement...Calling him a criminal though removes the political aims a terrorist commits his acts in the name of....and I am not supporting terrorism as a legitimate form of political dissent....just objecting to the characterisation of Mandela as a common criminal,especially in light of what he was fighting against, namely one of the most oppresive regimes in the 20th century

DomAviator -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 8:33:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Just wondering if the characterisation of Mandela as a criminal rather than a freedom fighter/revolutionary ,hell a terrorist even, is a covert or overt support of apartheid It is neither. It is a factual statement about a piece of subhuman filth that orchestrated a campaign of terror across the countryside, and who by his own admission was responsible for 221 bombing and arson attacks on govt facilities. People who are arrested, tried, convicted, and sentenced to life in prison are, by definition, "criminals". Despite the way revisionist history now views him, the man was a monster! He and his piece of crap wife led the ANC on a crusade across the countryside in an orchestrated campaign of rape looting murder and arson. Before singing Mandelas praises and as others have done, branding those who loathe the beast "a bigot" do a little research and find out what he actually did. Find out what "Necklacing" is... (Hint, it involves murdering people with a burning car tire) Find out what happened on rural farms, particularly to the women and children when the ANC came calling - just dont do it before lunch... Mandela was far worse than Osama Bin Laden ever dreamt of being and he sure as hell racked up a higher body count, including entire tribes of blacks who were slaughtered if they didnt join his litle club... Sure the piece of crap got a Nobel Peace Prize, so did Yassar Arafat... I supose anyone who says Arafat was a terrorist and criminal is also a bigot?

Owner59 -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 8:38:17 AM)
MLK was called a commie,the"most dangerous and effective Negro leader in the country(by the FBI) ,a moral degenerate,and every other name in the book. And for some,even today,he really was those things and worse.There`s propaganda,and there`s the doops who swallow it.Like pees and pods,they go together. Hoover, in his hate of MLK,fostered and created the environment that lead to MLK`s murder. But in reality,MLK was a very brave and heroic man. He stood up to overwhelming odds,despite the dangers.Few men in history have shown such character, as he did. Mandela, is another.

slvemike4u -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 8:58:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomAviator quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Just wondering if the characterisation of Mandela as a criminal rather than a freedom fighter/revolutionary ,hell a terrorist even, is a covert or overt support of apartheid It is neither. It is a factual statement about a piece of subhuman filth that orchestrated a campaign of terror across the countryside, and who by his own admission was responsible for 221 bombing and arson attacks on govt facilities. People who are arrested, tried, convicted, and sentenced to life in prison are, by definition, "criminals". Despite the way revisionist history now views him, the man was a monster! He and his piece of crap wife led the ANC on a crusade across the countryside in an orchestrated campaign of rape looting murder and arson. Before singing Mandelas praises and as others have done, branding those who loathe the beast "a bigot" do a little research and find out what he actually did. Find out what "Necklacing" is... (Hint, it involves murdering people with a burning car tire) Find out what happened on rural farms, particularly to the women and children when the ANC came calling - just dont do it before lunch... Mandela was far worse than Osama Bin Laden ever dreamt of being and he sure as hell racked up a higher body count, including entire tribes of blacks who were slaughtered if they didnt join his litle club... Sure the piece of crap got a Nobel Peace Prize, so did Yassar Arafat... I supose anyone who says Arafat was a terrorist and criminal is also a bigot? So it matters not the quality of the oppresive regime that he opposed.I do not intend to enter into a debate with You on the relative merits of Mandela or the sytem that arrested,tried ,convicted and sentenced him though there is a multitude of points I migt argue with You.The fact is calling Mandela a ciminal without at least qualifying the statement somewhat with an equal charactisation of the South African Goverment as criminal oppressors of his race is diseingenious at best outright racism at worst

DomAviator -> RE: Billy "BJ" Clinton - Sliming on POWs (7/8/2008 9:03:21 AM)
YOURE KIDDING RIGHT? How many govt buildings did MLK blow up or burn down? Mandela admits to 221. We executed Timothy McVeigh for ONE, how many does Mandela get before he us diminished in your eyes? How many people did MLK murder by immolation using a gasoline filled tire around there neck? How many black villages did MLK massacre and burn down if they didnt want to register to vote?? How many white owned farms did MLK send his followers into so as to rape and murder the women in front of their families, and to then amputate one of the childrens limbs in front of the men before murdering them and burning the farm??? Hmmmmm MLK do any of that? Didnt think so but Mandela sure as hell did.... So where is this "character" of Mandela's? Was it because he was kind and benevolent enough to let the dying father pick between his childs arm or foot? You sure have an odd way to pick heros Owner, and I the person who is supposedly the bigot, find it pretty disgusting that you compare MLK to Mandela. One was a preacher who led his people through non violent protest, while the other was Satan incarnate. As for propoganda - did any of your family die at the hands of the ANC??? My moms brother, an uncle I never got to meet, was necklaced. Thats propoganda??? Tell me then Owner, WHO KILLED HIM - SANTA CLAUS????

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