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Making of a flogger? - 7/9/2008 5:11:18 PM

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ok, so i've read and read and read some more.. both here and online in general. and i still have some questions. Note: i've never made anything from leather and cant afford to take classes, (not that i think i'd find that available for making floggers, especially here) so please.. any advice? and please keep in mind that i've no idea... lol
The first question is about balance. i really have a hard time with this concept as most floggers, whips are longer on one end than the other (obviously)... i read that it should be balanced so that the handle doesnt fall off your fingers. how do you know where to put the balancing articles, etc?
Another thing i found is that a lot of leather is referred to in weights. what is the best weight to use for a flogger?
what is the best part of the hide? or does that just depend on preference?
what is the best hide for a beginner?
when wrapping a handle with a large amount of leather, what does one do when there is too much? (its too thick for a handhold)
thanks for the help!!!

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RE: Making of a flogger? - 7/9/2008 6:00:40 PM

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I've made several floggers but without directions. I came up with an idea and it seemed to work. I purchase cheap suede or leather skirts at our local Value Village (second hand clothing) then take them apart and cut the fabric in strips. Buying hides of leather of any weight is very expensive. I use wood doweling for the handles but keep it small in width because they get bigger braiding the leather around it. I like my handles short and my strips no longer than 18" ... just what works for me.

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RE: Making of a flogger? - 7/9/2008 6:18:17 PM

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how did you learn how to braid around the handle? this is something that really stumps me. i can braid and i can crochet.. but brading around something confounds me. i have been to thrift shops, but have yet to find anything usable for this type of thing. (what can i say, the people around here dont have much leather evidently - or dont want to give it up.) lol

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RE: Making of a flogger? - 7/9/2008 7:31:27 PM

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anyone else?

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RE: Making of a flogger? - 7/10/2008 8:04:47 AM

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Lots of questions.....a few answers:

Balance: Additional weight is not always needed. You have to take into consideration the length and material of the handle itself, the weight of the leather, length of flails, number of flails..and how you hold a flogger. There is no 'set' balance point that is perfect for everyone.

Weight Of Leather: The weight of leather is a reference to ounces per square foot. For example: typical garment weight leather for a skirt might be 1 1/2 - 2 oz.. Leather chaps might be 4-5 oz. . Weight of leather for floggers is a matter of preference. KNow that lightweight garment leather is prone to easier stretching, thinning and tearing. Our standard floggers are 2.5-3 oz. .

Cow is usually the best leather to start with because of price and availability.

Encyclopedia Of Rawhide and Leather Braiding by Bruce Grant : The bible on braiding!

Oh..and Tandy in Charlotte is just a bit over an hour from you.

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RE: Making of a flogger? - 7/10/2008 9:16:12 AM

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How to braid leather, click here. The last link on the page, the mosaic braid, shows braiding over a wooden handle.

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RE: Making of a flogger? - 7/10/2008 10:27:52 PM

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wow.. thanks Elegant and Cali.. i'll put this info to good use

.. oh.. what is the best thing to use for handles? i've seen a lot of suggestions.. is that too a thing of preference?

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Reshaping Leather - 7/13/2008 11:46:20 AM

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Does anyone know how can a person reshape a piece of leather?

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RE: Reshaping Leather - 7/13/2008 1:21:52 PM

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Does anyone know how can a person reshape a piece of leather?

Are you trying to reshape a garment or just a piece?

(and why?)

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RE: Reshaping Leather - 7/13/2008 2:59:50 PM

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i havent had much luck in finding leather skirts or shirts in the resale shops, so i was wondering about using a braided belt for a stingier type flogger.. but they're braided.. so they're wavy... yes i know this probably isnt the best method, but im going to give it a try, just wanted to see if there was a way to straighten the pieces.

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RE: Reshaping Leather - 7/13/2008 3:16:54 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: babygirlangel

i havent had much luck in finding leather skirts or shirts in the resale shops, so i was wondering about using a braided belt for a stingier type flogger.. but they're braided.. so they're wavy... yes i know this probably isnt the best method, but im going to give it a try, just wanted to see if there was a way to straighten the pieces.

A few problems with the braided belts:

Many of these belts are not topgrain leather. They are often labeled as 'leather' but are often made of bonded leather (also refered to as reconstituted leather or composite leather). Scrap leather is mixed with a binding agent and poured into sheets to dry. Like particle board this type of leather falls apart easily when wet. Unlike particle board, bonded leather is not as strong as the real thing.
Wetting any leather and reforming it will break fibers.
If the belt is vegtan leather then yes, it will be very stingy!

Oh...there is a nice lifestyle group in Hickory but they sometimes meet in Grover (much closer to you). Also some munch meet-n-greet groups in Shelby,

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RE: Reshaping Leather - 7/13/2008 3:33:55 PM

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thanks and i've already been noticing a difference in the quality of the leather the belts are made from. the first i bought was what you described, i believe, but since then i've been looking a lot more carefully and i ~think~ i've been able to pick out the better stuff. so we'll see. but you didnt say how to reshape them, unless you meant just to use water? thanks for the clue about the groups, too.

edited to say... i saw that you said that wetting would break fibers after reading it again. so will the wavy formation be ok, you think?

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RE: Reshaping Leather - 7/13/2008 5:58:19 PM

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Do you have someplace around to find discarded furniture or car seats , the backside of an old leather couch or recliner would likely still be in shape even though the seating may have holes or splits in the leather, furniture grade leather is normally and ideal weight for a flogger ...another idea would be rawhide boot laces

You can also find smaller pieces of leather on ebays for a few dollars http://crafts.shop.ebay.com/items/Leather-Hides-Fur-Pelts__W0QQQ5fcatrefZ1QQ_dmptZUSQ5fFabricQQ_flnZ1QQ_sacatZ83938

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RE: Reshaping Leather - 7/13/2008 8:44:13 PM

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oooo.. old couch... EXXXXXXXCELENT! and thanks for the link!

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