Termyn8or
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Good points. Alot of people don't realize a few things, going back to the day the music died. It was Blacks who took a style of jazz and whatever into a new era, so when you bitch about rap music, remember their Daddy might have pioneered some rock style.
And the first thing to realize is how many bands popular in the US are not in or from the US. All through the seventies, which many consider the heyday, fully half of the popular bands were not from the US at all. Beatles, Zepplin, Rush, none of them from the US.
But getting back to the US, and years earlier, Buddy Holly pioneered in the style, not that I am saying he is the only one, but he was damn good at it. One DJ in NYC went nuts over That'll Be The Day and played the shit out of it. Problem was it had not been released at the time.
They thought Buddy Holly and The Crickets were Black, as such they weren't worried about lawsuits. Charles Hardin (Buddy) Holly was at home in Texas when he gets the call to go to NYC. He had a hit and didn't even know it. Well being a Texan and a pretty smart guy, he almost nixed the deal because they were talking arraingers and all this shit, he wanted no part of it, but they already owed him alot of money, and he got his way.
When he walked in the door they could not believe he was White, in fact he had been booked at the Apollo, a completely Black theater, and he did well. If the account is true in TheBuddy Holly Story, you gotta love this guy for his balls and smarts. He got a telegram which said something like "Be here, the __th of __ pays $_______". He got there and the owner of the place wanted to just send him home, thinking that the Black patrons would wreck his place seeing a White band there. Well Charles Hardin Holly said "Fine, just give me my money and I will be on my way". The guy didn't know what to say, but when Holly read the telegram back to him he had a problem.
So he let the Crickets go on, and instead of the place getting wrecked, they were dancing in the aisles.
Indeed before that he had tried to record with a couple of labels down south, and his style was messed with bigtime, he was at odds with the producers and directors, and if the accounts are correct, one told him "We don't make nigra records here boy". Talk about out of there.
He, the Big Bopper, Richie Valens and a couple others were killed in a plane crash about a year before I was born. But they did more for rock and roll in their short lives than almost anyone else. There were faster guitarists, and improvements in technique, but not in style.They invented the style. Well not alone, but they had invented their style.
What many people don't know is that before rock and roll was invented as a style of music, it meant to fuck. My Parents grew up during the birth of rock and roll, born in 38 and 41. From two different perspectives, the olman loved Buddy Holly and the olady could barely stand it.
But Mom (the olady), when I called her and told her I was on highspeed P2P and she could have any songs she wanted burnt on a CD in any order she wanted, the very first thing she asked for was Ted Nugent - Stranglehold. She was in her fifties. You'd think she wanted LawrenceWelk of Frank Sinatra or something, but no, Stanglehold.
Do you really wonder why I'm nuts ? You would think that my prolific postings should explain it, but some people just don't get it.
But also realize what you are talking about when you say American. I try to use US instead, because to use that word would include everything from Canada to the southern coast of South America. This is certainly not the subject.
And it is important to know just how much of our hit music over the years did not come from here. Alot of bands were out of England, alot more than most people think. Abba never set foot in the US or even England until they were famous. There are many examples. In fact it could be said that rock and roll and subsequently rock was a significant export of ours. Didn't make alot of money off of it, but it's still pretty much true.
But there is one thing to remember, rock and roll will never die.
T
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