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I'm a troll. - 7/10/2008 6:06:54 PM   
Stephann


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Just something niggling at me today.  When a woman's profile says "NOT LOOKING" and "I DON'T PLAY WITH OTHERS" I respect it.  I rarely write such people, since their 'ad' makes it clear that such an inquiry isn't going to be taken well.  That's just fine, but now and then I get emails from such women, where they confess they only put such statements up to keep away 'the trolls.'

Well, I'm a troll.  I sometimes like to meet other people for play.  I don't expect it, demand it, or even mention an interest in playing with the person I write when I first contact them.  But when it's spelled out in big black letters "Don't Contact Me for Anything Beyond Messenger Chat" I think "well, I have about three minutes a day I spend chatting in messenger."  More to the point, 'Trolls' (the kind who don't care about the person you are) aren't likely to ignore danger signs; they usually go ahead and write anyway.  In short, your warning signs end up detouring exactly the sort of people you did want to talk to, leaving only the crap or the blind to stagger in.

End of rant. 

Stephan


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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/10/2008 6:11:23 PM   
MadRabbit


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Status: offline 		I enjoy meeting girls for casual play and sex as well, Stephann.

I bet in both our cases the girls we play with wanted the same thing and we didn't endlessly haress the one's who didn't. I imagine we both might have even said "Hello. How are you?" in our first messages instead of just a cock shot.

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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/10/2008 6:18:00 PM   
Stephann


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Status: offline 		Truth be told, I've broken 'the rules' on occasion.  A year ago, I wrote a submissive who said "NO MEN UNDER SIX FEET."  It's pretty well documented what happened with her and I; needless to say, my paltry 5'10" somehow managed to suffice.  It's just I hate having to balance between respecting a woman's stated desire, and trying to 'read between the lines' (i.e. "NO MEN (unless you think I'll get along well with you.)"  Something about the whole consent issue, I guess.

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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/10/2008 6:19:20 PM   
MadRabbit


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Status: offline 		I can't say I understand it, because it would seem that people who are worth talking to are the kind of people who would respect what is said in a profile and the people they are trying to keep away are the ones who would ignore it.

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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/10/2008 6:21:36 PM   
sweetwenchie


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From: Sacramento, California
Status: offline 		If you do not mention play, sex, or owning them in the first email i would hardly call that troll like behaviour.  Here is a lovely little email i received yesterday which illustrates a troll like message.  i had to really resist the urge to send it back to him after correcting all the errors for him.  

sneaks up behide you and leans down sinking my teeth deep into ur neck sqeezing ur jugular tell you faint straping shackles to both ankles and pulling them apart hooking them to the bed post grabing my dagger from my boot and hack away your clothing taking the other set of shackles and hooking up ur wrist crawling up your body tracing it inche by inche with my tongue tell reaching your lips then pressing down hard inhailing ur bottom lip bitting
 
 
i can only speak for myself, but someone reaching out and being friendly, even if showing an interest is not troll like in my mind, ignorant garbage such as i shared above is.

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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/10/2008 6:26:27 PM   
sunshinemiss


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Stephann

Hi folks,

Just something niggling at me today.  When a woman's profile says "NOT LOOKING" and "I DON'T PLAY WITH OTHERS" I respect it.  I rarely write such people, since their 'ad' makes it clear that such an inquiry isn't going to be taken well.  That's just fine, but now and then I get emails from such women, where they confess they only put such statements up to keep away 'the trolls.'

Well, I'm a troll.  I sometimes like to meet other people for play.  I don't expect it, demand it, or even mention an interest in playing with the person I write when I first contact them.  But when it's spelled out in big black letters "Don't Contact Me for Anything Beyond Messenger Chat" I think "well, I have about three minutes a day I spend chatting in messenger."  More to the point, 'Trolls' (the kind who don't care about the person you are) aren't likely to ignore danger signs; they usually go ahead and write anyway.  In short, your warning signs end up detouring exactly the sort of people you did want to talk to, leaving only the crap or the blind to stagger in.

End of rant. 

Stephan


 
Hello Stephan,
Looking through my c-mails... it seems I must have accidentally deleted that whole... on your knees for me slut email that you (in my dreams) sent me... Could you, I don't know... re-send it?
 
*rubs my hands together.
 
*winks
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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/10/2008 6:54:04 PM   
Aileen1968


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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/10/2008 7:56:03 PM   
WhiteFox77


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Status: offline 		Stephann:  I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that.

As a whole I like honest women.  So when I see "NOT LOOKING, DON'T CONTACT ME" (interpreted as:  "Looking but not wanting to be bothered by jerks.")  I don't contact them because I'm not about to get into a relationship with a woman when the first contact I have with them is a public lie.

The simple fact is that unless a person has some deep emotional issues, if they are single (and haven't taken a vowe of celebicy) they are looking to one degree or another. 


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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/10/2008 8:13:24 PM   
RedMagic1


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Status: offline 		Every time I've met a woman online-to-real, there was something in her profile that disqualified me from consideration.  People make exceptions if they think there might be a good fit.

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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/10/2008 9:31:34 PM   
AzureShards


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Status: offline 		I'm one of those women who aren't looking to play or meet people, and there is no double meaning in my profile.   After some board reading and talking to people I feel I may need to clearify exactly what I mean by that, but I haven't lied.   Perhaps I can give a different perspective though.

I am looking to meet in the "meet and greet" sense of the word, more experienced people who may share my views.  I am trying to have good conversations with people and learn what I can about the BDSM community and hopefully myself.    Some day I may even be interesting in meeting some of these people in person and getting to know them.

However I put what I do in my profile for several reasons:
  -First, I am not looking to play.  I wouldn't sleep with some one I just met and I will not play with some one just because they message me on a site.   My submission has to come with trust, respect, and caring as well, which comes with getting to know some one and probably a relationship.  So playing with some one I barely know doesn't appeal to me.
  -Secound, I am very cautious by nature so I'm not going to go out and meet some one after only a short period of talking to them on line.  For me it could be months, (once I am ready to meet people), before I'm willing to go out for coffee and actually meet them in person, and I feel it best to make sure I don't lead some one to believe something other then that.  It wastes my time and theirs.
  -Last, when I say currently I mean currently.  Down the road I may be wishing to meet people.  Right now I honestly just can't afford to make trips all over the place to meet a bunch of people, and even though I'm submissive I don't expect a Dom to help me pay for it.  So, until such a point when I have the money to spar running here and there, there is no point in me "advertising."

To be honest I just joined this site to see what was out there in the wide world, the variety, the ideas, the lingo.  All that.   The profile was required for a log in to the message boards, I don't see it as an ad.    I realize my point of view may be a minority, but that's my two cents.

Edited for typo. 

< Message edited by AzureShards -- 7/10/2008 9:35:34 PM >

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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/10/2008 10:51:58 PM   
Stephann


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Status: offline 		WhiteFox,

Exactly what's been getting me.  I'm not bothered by people who clearly place limits in their profile; I'm happy to respect them.  It's when those limits are clearly stated, only to find they were there 'for show.'  Often, it's these same people who are complaining about the quality of their mail, causing them to become frustrated and post larger and larger text in caps, causing fewer and fewer people of quality to write, until they end up with an inbox filled with spam and cockshots.  Someone who has "Only interested in meeting friends" is a whole different story; I love meeting people for friendship, and have met several folks from this site, in Texas and here in southern California, and I don't care much for sites like Alt where the clear expectation is meeting-for-sex, since that's not what I'm into (at least not until I know the person well enough, which - for me- requires friendship first.)

Stephan


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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/11/2008 1:13:21 AM   
Vendaval


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Status: offline 		Something like locked doors only keep out honest people, not thieves?  So what would be a better phrase to post on a profile?


quote:

ORIGINAL: Stephann
More to the point, 'Trolls' (the kind who don't care about the person you are) aren't likely to ignore danger signs; they usually go ahead and write anyway.  In short, your warning signs end up detouring exactly the sort of people you did want to talk to, leaving only the crap or the blind to stagger in.



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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/11/2008 1:15:19 AM   
Vendaval


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Status: offline 		Did that person graduate from high school ?  Or do they only write in chat-speak?

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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/11/2008 7:07:31 AM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		I personally like my style of........not looking. No one is going to mistake it and write "I know you're not looking but I think I have alot to offer..." Or "I know you say your a lesbian but I think your HAWT! Maybe we could hook up some time?"




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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/11/2008 7:22:21 AM   
CreativeDominant


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Status: offline 		You make a good point, Stephann...one that applies to either side of the whip or either gender.  I don't state that I am "not looking" and I don't state that I am "desperately seeking".  When I first came on CollarMe, I stated in both the interest side and in my profile that I was "actively seeking".  This brought me into contact with people who've become friends and I've really enjoyed that.  It also brought me mail from submissives who revealed within a few emails how demanding or desperate or clingy they were.  That aspect of it took me to change my profile (at least for a short while until it disappeared) to "just friends" which brought me absolutely nothing in terms of mail.  Though that was O.K because by that time, I had made friends, I still noted the decline in mail and found it to be interesting.  So what I had done before I was "disappeared" was describe the type of submissive that suits me and then, let my profile alone. 

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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/11/2008 7:44:21 AM   
eyesopened


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Status: offline 		i like to think that most people have enough discernment to delete inappropriate emails.  i have never had the problem where i received so many emails in a day that i could not read/respond or read/delete.  Adding the negative energy of "no trolls, no wankers, no this, no that, no no no no" is counterproductive in my opinion.  The "on your knees bitch" guys don't read the whole profile anyway so why bother sending out such negative messages?

BTW... There's equally as many Doms seeking submissives who use the same negativity in their profiles.  When i was seeking, i passed those by.  i might not be a 'game player' but felt the Dominant would be looking for me to prove what i am not rather than concentrait on what i am.

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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/11/2008 8:33:40 AM   
faerytattoodgirl


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Status: offline 		pfft..stephan is too tall to be a troll.

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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/11/2008 8:36:17 AM   
sweetwenchie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Did that person graduate from high school ?  Or do they only write in chat-speak?


It that ~cough~ man actually received a diploma, then the state of our school system is in far worse condition than i had previously thought!

< Message edited by sweetwenchie -- 7/11/2008 8:51:54 AM >

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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/11/2008 9:00:10 AM   
myotherself


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetwenchie


sneaks up behide you and leans down sinking my teeth deep into ur neck sqeezing ur jugular tell you faint straping shackles to both ankles and pulling them apart hooking them to the bed post grabing my dagger from my boot and hack away your clothing taking the other set of shackles and hooking up ur wrist crawling up your body tracing it inche by inche with my tongue tell reaching your lips then pressing down hard inhailing ur bottom lip bitting 
 


My heart is broken!    I received exactly the same mail...I thought he loved me...I give up, I won't ever trust a man again 

*sob*

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RE: I'm a troll. - 7/11/2008 9:07:49 AM   
sweetwenchie


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Status: offline 		Trolls can be such heartless bastards!

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