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asking for tips - 7/12/2008 6:49:17 AM   
NiFkI


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I have little experience with deep throat and my new Master enjoys it. I would like to learn this better.

Does anyone have any tips on how to learn to control the gag reflex? Tips? Im open to all ideas, I just want to get better :)

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RE: asking for tips - 7/12/2008 7:08:35 AM   
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Posting in more than one forum is against TOS.  Do not be surprised when your posts get deleted. 

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RE: asking for tips - 7/12/2008 7:19:21 AM   
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Buy a dildo that's a little larger than his penis.  Practice on it by lying on a bed on your back with your head hanging over the edge.  Keep shoving it down your throat and holding it there as long as you can.  Eventually, you'll overcome the gag reflex.

You might want to check with your Master first though.  He might like the gag reflex. 

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RE: asking for tips - 7/12/2008 8:03:20 AM   
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The biggest secret is to relax your jaw as much as possible.  It gets easier with practice.  I still find myself chanting in my head, "relax, relax, relax".

Some positions are easier than others.  One that is easier for me is if I am on my knees on the floor and my Master is leaning over me. 


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RE: asking for tips - 7/12/2008 8:38:06 AM   
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take your time with the penis going farther into your mouth, and breathe evenly the entire time. When it starts going down your throat you might feel panicky because it gets harder to breathe, but concentrate on getting as much air through your nose as you can. My gag reflex only hits when I try to do things too fast at first.

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RE: asking for tips - 7/12/2008 10:12:57 AM   
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girl, just wait for LA's listing, she is always accurate with info.

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RE: asking for tips - 7/12/2008 1:22:01 PM   
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Frankly, due to jaw problems and small mouth, I use my mouth only 30% of the time doing oral sex.

My generic method is to start with my hands- massage the cock, scratch the balls a bit, get the blood flowing so you can start to sense when it's getting hard.

Then I use my mouth to lick it gently, get it more sensitized and a bit wet.  This is about the only time I put my mouth into the cock- when it's still only half hard and can fit easily, and I can roll my tongue around it inside.

After that, I keep my mouth almost completely on the head, which is the most sensitive, just licking and keeping saliva flowing so that my hands, which are doing all of the shaft work by stroking regularly. The fingers cover more area and are more manipulative than the tongue and you can keep the pace going much better than with your mouth alone.

So, teeth aren't a problem at all.

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RE: asking for tips - 7/12/2008 4:15:45 PM   
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I knew a girl once that had her Uvula removed   she said it stops the gag reflex  and she could take any cock she wanted all the way down  

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RE: asking for tips - 7/12/2008 6:50:16 PM   
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Have you asked him if he wants you to get over the gag reflex. He may well enjoy pushing it in while you gag, tear, and your nose runs. Don't make assumptions, communicate.

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RE: asking for tips - 7/12/2008 7:22:01 PM   
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Does anyone have any tips on how to learn to control the gag reflex?
  Your gag reflex keeps you from aspirating saliva, food, water, and whatever else you find in your mouth.  Losing your gag reflex can give you years of lung irritation.  (I am sure I am going to get flamed for saying that.)

The key to being able to take it deep (and this goes for any orifice) is taking it very slow, and the recipient being somewhat in control of the depth,  This means wild porn movie thrusting won't work.

However, I would encourage your dominant to expand his notion of what a good blow job is like.  Many men will get more pleasure from having their partner use the lips, tongue and hands in combination to stroke and apply pressure and suction.  This is very hard to do when you have essentially disengaged your jaw, and are allowing him to shove your head down - then the sensation he gets is the inadvertent scraping of teeth and your nose smashing into his pubic bone.  You can always fake the sounds of gagging and choking and struggling while you deliver the better, more controlled blow job.

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RE: asking for tips - 7/13/2008 8:22:31 AM   
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Might try a little throat spray before you go down on your Sir. The kind that numbs your throat. But be careful and let it "soak in" before you service him. You don't want to numb his "package" too. lol
Good luck.

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RE: asking for tips - 7/13/2008 12:05:46 PM   
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When the throat and jaw muscles get tired, they relax down, and the mouth and throat opening closes. So you have to strengthen those muscles, which in general, haven't gotten much of a workout most of your life. It's like learning any new skill: practice, practice, practice.

When I decided that it was really, deeply, personally important to learn to deep-throat well, I started practicing on a daily basis. Find a towel, a bowl, a dildo, and a blank bit of wall space.  For the dildo, I purchased this:  Model #0271-05:
The Realistic" by Doc Johnson ( I can't recommend them strongly enough ).  Brace the dildo against the wall, and start working it into your throat. Do so for 5 minutes. (yes, you're going to puke. that's what the towel and the bowl are for. Wipe your mouth and get back to work.) I did that for a week, then gradually increased the time, bit by bit.

At this point, i can generally perform deep throat oral service in nearly any physical position for about 30 to 45 minutes before my jaw starts getting sore and weakens.

The only negative that i have noticed is that deepthroating for the past 8 years has changed my vocal range. I used to be a high soprano. Now I'm an alto. I can't sing as well as I used to. After I've been training, my voice is much softer and more husky.

Anyone *CAN* get over a gag reflex if it's important enough to them personally to do so.  My gag reflex was *horrible*. It takes work, and it takes wanting it, and it takes patience.

The blowjob is an art form with many, many variations. There's always a new thing to learn, a new angle to try, a new dick to suck. :) 

 
Hope that helps,

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RE: asking for tips - 7/13/2008 8:12:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

Buy a dildo that's a little larger than his penis.  Practice on it by lying on a bed on your back with your head hanging over the edge.  Keep shoving it down your throat and holding it there as long as you can.  Eventually, you'll overcome the gag reflex.

You might want to check with your Master first though.  He might like the gag reflex. 


Mine always have, and so do I. There's just something sexy about gagging on a cock with tears rolling down your face...

Though I suppose if it hinders your ability to actually do it, HVW's idea is a pretty good one.

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RE: asking for tips - 7/14/2008 6:55:21 PM   
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Position is definitely key to me being able to deep throat, I can't really do it any other way than with my head over the edge of the bed. I wouldn't want to lose my gag reflex, luckily mine isn't that strong anyway. And my Master always liked a bit of gagging, so all was well.

I would quite like to be able to do it kneeling in front of someone, but not enough to want to practice with a dildo every day, without a Master I just don't have the motivation, and that doesn't appeal at all. I would if I found someone else who liked that though, obviously.

Oh, also, it was only after I had my tonsils removed a few years ago that I was able to deep throat at all, but then mine were ridiculously large and almost always inflamed, so others might not have any issue with them.

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RE: asking for tips - 7/14/2008 7:46:58 PM   
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Pure Romance sells a product called Great Head.  I've never tried it, but I've heard it's great AND it comes in 3 flavors.

https://pureromance.com/EC_ProductView.aspx?categoryID=9&pid=919

Hope this helps!

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RE: asking for tips - 7/16/2008 3:46:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: NiFkI

I have little experience with deep throat and my new Master enjoys it. I would like to learn this better.

Does anyone have any tips on how to learn to control the gag reflex? Tips? Im open to all ideas, I just want to get better :)

Just curious but the place to "learn this better" is with your Master who (apparently) enjoys it.  Only he knows what he likes - and dislikes....
 
I've got an "itch to scratch" on your choice of phrase so I've gotta ask - your "new Master" - have you even met him yet?
 
Focus. 

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RE: asking for tips - 7/16/2008 6:16:06 AM   
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When I saw the title of the thread, I thought you were going to sit out a large brandy snifter on the nightstand, like on a piano bar.  I know a lot a guys would tip big for some great deep throating

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RE: asking for tips - 7/16/2008 1:56:37 PM   
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practice practice practice!

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