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Female Supremacy and RL - 7/12/2008 9:22:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Aside from what I might wish FS to be, I would like to hear from some women or men who live in a FS relationship, and classify themselvs as Female Supremacists, and hear what it is to them and why they feel they are Female Supremacists. 

What problems to you have in your relationship or life because of it, what are the good and bad parts.  What didn't you expect, what do you love and what do you hate about it?  Is there a difference to you with FS and TPE?  Do you believe in a goddess religion?  Is this just a male submissive fantasy?
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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/12/2008 8:42:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Female Supremacy is totally real to me. I believe in Goddess Worship too and that there's a higher power that's Feminine like Jesus believed.

Sometimes it's tricky living FS in a non FS world but most of my world is FS so it's pretty easy most of the time. Like I don't try to dominate a guy in front of me in a grocery store lineup but if he's not respecting me and getting pushy or rude I'll put him in his place pronto. I have my ways.

I love seeing FS in the world around me. It's really getting mainstream. Makes me happy to see that. I hope it goes back to the pagan way and Goddess Worship before it's too late.

I like Goddess Club because it's all about Female Supremacy and Goddess Worship and incorporates femdom into it too.


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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/13/2008 2:42:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for this post.  As one relatively new to this 'lifestyle' it can be confusing when mentioning Female Supremacy.  It would seem to me that Female Supremacy and Goddess Worship is the basic thread in the Female Dominant/submissive relationship. It is my belief that is the reason that there is a compulsion to serve.

Why is it that servitude and submission to a Female Dominant is driving force??  Could it be that the term 'Supremacy' is to strong???   As a devotee to the Womanhood call it what Y/you would. This servant is there because he feels that serving a Dominant Woman is his place in life.

Hope that there is more on this thread to help me understand the complexity of terminology. 

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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/13/2008 7:49:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		i must say that i enjoy the pleasures of female supremacy. i live in a community (7 women and 11 men) who celebrate rites of FS and i enjoy our session evenings - although i have become used to humiliation and teasing. my chastiy-belt is the object of much fun and laughter and my cleaning is a moment when everybody is present and my hopes of release and my sexual desire is uncomparably higher than that of any other human being. All the looks on my Mistress´hands and her ideas that have been discussed beforehand by the other women...other men wait to be sexually locked up and take pride in being the next on line.
i can only recommend this way of devotion and we have only one enemy - little average people

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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/13/2008 5:16:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for answering, and I am wondering how you feel Female Supremacy is different than lets say Female Domination.  I can see living in a Female Dominated group or Goddess beliefs.  Any other ways?

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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/13/2008 7:23:04 PM   
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Female Supremacy is totally real to me. I believe in Goddess Worship too and that there's a higher power that's Feminine like Jesus believed.

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Would you care to elaborate on the "like Jesus believed" part of your post? I'd like to see a reference to the specific scriptures where Jesus states this belief.

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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/13/2008 8:25:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is easy to be sexist I suppose either way on this.  It would of course depend on how you are defining supremacy.  Intellectually?  And if so, would it be by measure of IQ?  If so, then both in terms of degree and numbers, men are superior.  There are more men than women who are geniuses and the mean average of men in the genius range is markedly higher than their female counterparts.  But these are the freaks of both genders.  Most, male and female, are not geniuses, and there is far more variance in the male than the female.  That is, the bell curve of women is more sharp and for men more broader.  In this light, than in addition to more geniuses, there are more idiots among men as well.  A more cynical view is that this means that women are simply more boringly similar than men are.  So what then under these considerations?  Who then is more superior?

Or what of the obvious that has so been neglected in the Elise-Sutton-esque declarations of female supremacy: that this is a world virtually entirely built by men.  Everything from science to technology, with rare exception is a male enterprise.  Every road paved; every building designed and built; every major technology and scientific break through has been born out of the mind of man and his ambition.  All of history, past and present is testament to this.  Indeed, even the feminist author Camile Paglia once said that if women had ruled the world, we'd still be "living in grass huts."  The natural default rebuttal to this is somehow society would be less violent and that the machinations of politics and of war are of male enterprise as well.  Without doubt, men exceed in this capacity as well, but female prisons exist, and are overly populated with violent offenders.  Violence, then is not peculiar to the male of the species.  It's just men have been less squeemish in getting their hands dirty in the matter. 

So who's superior, when both are capable of violence and greatness?  Would the accomplishments made by members of one gender be somehow negated by the atrocities or crimes of others in that gender?  And would the great accomplishments of certain members of a gender mean then that others by mere coincidence that they too are the same gender are great and superior?

At the end all these factoids that are evoked are really moot points, as at the end the statistical "representation" of a said group is never the individual.  And this is lost to many.  I personally laugh at the notion of female supremacy, as it implies that by mere fact of gender, one is superior.  How utterly rediculous.  As a form of sex play, fine.  But in my experince, there are only superior individuals.  Gender and race are but coincidental non-factors.

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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/13/2008 9:19:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		men are made stronger b/c they are the ones who do the dirty work. men are less important and their only needed for their fertilizer and to go out and do the dirty work. and their testosterone gives them male pms and most are immature big babies with fragile egos. its about time oppressed women came up and started exercising their brains, rights, and all. men fear women and always have and thats why they oppressed women. ha. bunch of big babies.

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I'm not exactly sure the level of sincerity from the OP, but it appears like valid statement we are equal in numerous ways but women are more important then men. Although todays society is all about EQUALITY. And I feel it should be...nobody should be given special priviledges for any reasons, all given equal chances. So......for crying out loud, we should all have equality regardless that women are superior.

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women bleed and don't die (that was magical before medical understanding)
women generally handle pain better than men
women live longer
women are able to give life
women are 51% of the population
all babies start out female

now, this is all off the top of my head - some anectdotal, some vague recollection from gender classes from college... take it with a grain of salt.





There IS significant difference between the chromsomes, namely that the Y chromosome is smaller and contains markedly fewer genetic components than the X. Y is in fact a mutated version of X. It is a derivative of X.

The Female chromosome sequence contains far more genetic data than the male's.

The Y chromosome is in fact degrading and in trouble, because it does not build or repair itself with each generation.

It is in fact an exact copy of the previous father's Y. That how we can trace lineage in men reliably through past generations.

For the record, Women actually on average have better memory than men, and use more cross networking in their brains than men (emotive and logistical). They have more "white matter" in their brains, on average.

Culture shows how it does favor the Female by putting the male in harm's way first.

Men are always willing to help a lady out, protect her, and do dirty, dangerous work for her.

A man's place is written in his DNA. Why do males love to look at and kiss the feet of females? :-)



To understand how and why Females in any mammal species are superior, simply ask yourself this: why are we males born with nipples?

Look at the chromosomes. XX vs. Xy makes it pretty obvious.

Females are superior because they represent the entire human being.

The male is inferior because he is, from a very real genetic standpoint, an incomplete copy of a female.

He is a derivative, subhuman mutation, designed for sexual reproduction.

After providing sperm, he's quite disposable, and our society shows this in many ways.




Under a microscope,
Females XX chromosomes are big and diesel compared to those of males whose XY chromosomes are tiny and battered down looking.




uum yeah, I am. and whoever said men are superior because they have cocks, you used to have a clit but now you have a piss pump which your fertilizer passes thru. your only job to be be a fertilizer pump for the important ones, women!



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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/13/2008 11:26:23 PM   
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Aside from what I might wish FS to be, I would like to hear from some women or men who live in a FS relationship, and classify themselvs as Female Supremacists, and hear what it is to them and why they feel they are Female Supremacists. 

What problems to you have in your relationship or life because of it, what are the good and bad parts.  What didn't you expect, what do you love and what do you hate about it?  Is there a difference to you with FS and TPE?  Do you believe in a goddess religion?  Is this just a male submissive fantasy?



When all invested parties consent, nothing is wrong.  There's nothing wrong with believing in a female diety or treating a human female as a diety. 

While your post doesn't suggest this, I will bring it up.  Living a "female supremacy" lifestyle will clash with others who do not consent to being involved in the same ways white supremacy does.

So what am I saying?  If everyone consents, it exists and is fun (not the right word, but whatever )

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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/14/2008 7:58:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		While I understand there are a lot of Dommes that believe in Female Suprmacy, I simply do not fall into that category.  I have always believed in equality for everyone.  For me, it is all about consent and Power Exchange.   I cannot let that go even serving as a Mistress.
 
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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/14/2008 10:54:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Personally, while my owner is female, I don't buy into either males or females being superior based solely on their gender.  It's the same if you look at races.  While there may be some genetic factors that give some more of an aptitude than others in some areas, it's not those factors alone that would really determine if someone is 'superior' or not, much less a whole gender.  We each have gifts and flaws, and you can't claim to simply be 'superior' in all ways (okay, a very few individuals might be able to).  Sure, that 5'2" woman may be very smart, so superior in that way, but she can't bench 250lbs, so I'm superior in that way.  I may type faster, she may have better grammar.  I may be able to draw, she may be able to read sheet music.   All in all, the idea that any race/gender is flat out better than another is simply bad thinking.

If you do believe it, however, nothing anyone says is going to sway your belief on that.  And that's fine too, just don't force it on others.

Here's the important question... is it as meaningful to submit to someone blatantly superior, or to give your obedience and submission to one who is more an equal?

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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/18/2008 8:24:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's the important question... is it as meaningful to submit to someone blatantly superior, or to give your obedience and submission to one who is more an equal?

It is important for me to submit to someone I feel in some ways is superior to me and in general worthy of my submission.

Most people have stated that they don't believe per se in Female Supremacy.  I am wondering what those who do believe in it feel is different than D/s or other types of BDSM.

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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/18/2008 8:55:51 PM   
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In order for FS to work, the parties must have reverence. So comparing FS with religion or religious attitudes or figures seems absolutely understandable to me.

I couldn't exactly decode her sentence though.


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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/20/2008 2:11:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for responding.

In my case I think there would always be some level of reverence or adoration for my dominant.  My ideal is kind of like ancient Rome with less pain.  The power element would always be there and it would be clear that women were in charge and men were just there to obey.  I like the property concept because it incorporates my idea about status, conduct and service.  After all your property is something that is used.  A pet is there to be played with or looked at.  I think Female Supremacy deals with the property concept and the sense of belonging to a superior at the same time where TPE doesn't. 

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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/20/2008 3:07:32 PM   
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Here's the important question... is it as meaningful to submit to someone blatantly superior, or to give your obedience and submission to one who is more an equal?

It is important for me to submit to someone I feel in some ways is superior to me and in general worthy of my submission.

Most people have stated that they don't believe per se in Female Supremacy.  I am wondering what those who do believe in it feel is different than D/s or other types of BDSM.



The thing is, a -person- can be a competent and viable "superior", regardless of whether or not one buys into the idea of the supremacy of that entire gender, race, religious group, etc.

In my household, I am the Supreme Commander. I am the Matriarch. Even where my co-FemDom is concerned, on most issues she defers to my expertise, and where there is hierarchy between us, I am the senior. This is -despite- the fact that, for a number of years, she was my owner and my superior. When everything was hashed out after I earned my crop and transitioned sides, I returned to my original place in our household, which was that of the matriarch and titular head of the house. At the same time, my companion is a skilled, talented, intelligent woman. She has talents that I do not possess. She is the Queen of the Mindfuck, and is one of the most detail-oriented FemDoms I've ever encountered. In her skill areas, she is -always- in charge, even though I am the matriarch. She's also a brilliant scientist and skilled alternative healer in homeopathy. When she is in her element, there is no question that she is running the show, and I defer to her expertise because it makes absolutely NO sense not to. Whether or not we believe in female supremacy (which, actually, we don't... we've met entirely too many completely idiotic women!), there is no question that, in our presence, we are in charge. First and secon

I don't think that it is necessary to buy into philosophies that lift up or denigrate entire groups just to be powerful and in command (or to yield and accept one's position as submissive). All it takes is having the right combination of a powerful, effective leader and a willing, intelligent, and dedicated follower.

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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/21/2008 1:06:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well said Calla. While everyone is entitled to their own opinions, mine is that everyone is equal, regardless of race, gender or religious choice. The words "Female supremacy" brings up some very negative feelings, and I generally refuse to associate with people who see me as less than them solely based on my gender. That said, “Female domination” is something entirely different. I find acts of submission to a woman very appealing. It’s more of a sense of safety and belonging, and of being able to focus solely on the one I love. My girlfriend does not view me as less than her at all, even though we have incorporated BDSM into our lifestyle.   As long as everyone is enjoying the play, however, it doesn’t matter what you call it. Just go with what works for you. If you enjoy the idea of female supremacy, then dive right in, otherwise talk with your SO and figure out what ideals you both want to subscribe to.   I wish you all the best,

H.

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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/21/2008 1:54:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Though the only experiance I really have is in my form of spitual pursuits which is of the nature of Goddess worship, I think FS is real to me in many ways.   I do follow Isis as my Goddess and her twin sister Nephtys.   I am not entirely convinced that I believe in FS completely while I do look for a Domme I see it more as a balance of energy.   If they believe in FS that's fine with me, if they believe we are equals that also is fine.    In the end I plan only to submit to one female regardless so suppose it doesn't matter.  granted I will submit to others if it is her wish but still my loyality will remain with the one that collars me. 

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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/21/2008 4:34:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Funny, I just finished thinking about this in my journal.

I'm athiest so any sort of religion is out the door for me so I'll skip over that part of the OP.

As for female supremacy, I think it's hogwash. If a woman is dominant it's not because she's a woman it's because her personality is dominant. She herself creates the feeling of awe that subs/slaves want to serve her. I don't feel "empowered" because I'm a woman. It's my mind and heart and persona that empower me to do something, not my vagina.

I don't think men are better than women and I don't think women are better than men. We're all equal until our personas shine out to make us stand above the rest.

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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/21/2008 5:59:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		My hubby, the lovely and talented Al,  is a FemSupremacist.  He believes deeply and sincerely that women are superior and that men exist to make women happy.  He's way tuned in to making our kinky women friends happy.  This isn't just about kink for him, though, it is the way he relates to women generally, and has all of his life.  He loves his mom and is good to her.  If she needs him he'll do whatever he can, and is happy for the opportunity.  He helps my recently-divorced boss with stuff that needs to be done around her house that she can't handle alone, and again, is happy for the opportunity.  He gets disgusted with fellows who don't treat their women well.  I was going to say that he's not a patsy about it, but I think that before he and I got together, he was.  I know of one woman who took all kinds of advantage of him for years.  I don't think that she set out to take advantage of him, but that she was needy and he presented her with an opportunity.  Perhaps it wasn't so much that he was a patsy as that he was focused on making sure her daughters (women in training) were well cared for and as happy as he could make them in an uncle-like role.  He was a bit of a sucker for them and had a hard time with it when I put some limits on it. 

Thinking about what a patsy he was makes me want to protect him from unscrupulous women should I make a premature exit.  Maybe I'll order him to run all possible partners past my daughter before making a commitment.  She likes him and would want him to be happy, and would make sure he ends up with someone who is worthy of him.

I am not a FemSupremacist.  I cannot believe that being born a particular gender (or race, orientation, nationality, social status, income bracket, etc.) can make one superior.  I don't buy into Al's idea that women are superior, but I'm totally happy to reap the benefits of his beliefs.  Of all women, I am the one he considers most superior.  That's exactly what I need from a partner.  To keep him happy I share him with other women whom he can make happy.  That works for me on so many levels - he gets his itches scratched, my friends have a good time, I get to watch and/or participate, and everyone is grateful to me for being so generous. 

It's all good.



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RE: Female Supremacy and RL - 7/22/2008 4:34:23 AM   
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Aside from what I might wish FS to be, I would like to hear from some women or men who live in a FS relationship, and classify themselvs as Female Supremacists, and hear what it is to them and why they feel they are Female Supremacists.

What problems to you have in your relationship or life because of it, what are the good and bad parts. What didn't you expect, what do you love and what do you hate about it? Is there a difference to you with FS and TPE? Do you believe in a goddess religion? Is this just a male submissive fantasy?


Okay, so apologies for answering on a thread which asks only FS women to reply.

However, I find this subject fascinating.

I am not a female supremacist and could never be. My personal view is that any world view rating one gender over another is not for me. I think it is practically unsustainable on a large scale. Most women, sub, Domme or vanilla do not think this way. Analogies to ideas which put certain races as supreme just make me shudder.

There is nothing inherently better about about one sex or the other. There are differences but nothing more than that.

I have always been a female dominant, from an exceptionally early age I knew this and worked on finding situations and relationships in which my inner self could be expressed. The notion of female supremacy is a learned one, just as male supremacy or white supremacy. Dominance, in my case, at last came from within, with no need to learn anything. It was just how I was, my character and personality.

Female supremacy is often linked to Goddess religions. As atheist who does not believe in any supernatural forces, only natural ones, that just makes it even more unpalatable.

I have met a huge amount of submissive men in my time and the ones I have found who are most likely to live in a dream world, unable to relate to strong, assertive women and enjoy the dominance they exert, are those who 'believe' in FS. I know some have said they live the life and if they do consensually, good luck to them.

I am different. My idea for a happy life is to be myself, not a male construct or a follower of any religion, just me and my sub doing our own thing. Me dominant, him submissive and discovering how to live and thrive in the world accepting an working with those two facts.

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