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missturbation -> Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:05:12 PM)

*This is not a fat / thin thread, please don't turn it into one.* [:D]
 
Whilst reading a magazine today i came across an article titled 'finish your dinner and we'll send you straight to bed'. It reckons that one of the most likely comments to send a man running is 'i'm going on a diet'.  
To quote the bloke who wrote the article 'blokes like women to eat. Real eaters are sexy - starters, main course, dessert smeared around the mouth and a mcdonalds on the way home - it's just wonderful to watch a girl stuff her face.'
He also says that for most women on diets sex is out of the question (even if it does burn 250 calories). He reckons 500 calories a day gives her barely enough energy to get out of bed let alone have sex. Plus semen has six calories per tablespoon [;)]
He then claims dieting is an intergender sport. There are only three reasons women go on diets!!
1. Competitive dieting - her best friend is skinnier.
2. Event dieting - she wants to be skinnier for a wedding etc.
3. Bikini dieting - to look 'better' in her bikini.
 
So girls is he right? Is that why we diet when we do? I personally have never dieted so i really don't know.
And boys is your girl announcing shes going on a diet really that scarey?
And do you prefer a woman who CAN eat?
 





sirsholly -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:17:42 PM)

i think this question is more directed to men...but hell...that never stopped me before...

Why would a man plan a date with a woman...chose the perfect restaurant...to watch her eat lettuce?

We women differ in the way we view ourselves from the way men view us. Face it...it is true. And i am not talking about weight to the point it is a health issue and doing my best not to turn this into a fat thread. If you put on your favorite jeans and they are a bit tight what do you want to do? Go on a diet, of course. Does your date know you gained 5 pounds? Does he care? No to both. Announcing you are dieting screams "body image issues" and what man in his right mind wants to deal with that? None that i have ever met.

Self confidence is SEXY, Ladies!!

ANd for petes sake...if you are going to go on a diet...keep it to yourself...and educate yourself!! Rather than ordering a plate of bunny food in a restaurant know what is healthy and what is not on the menu...and dig in.




fluffyswitch -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:24:18 PM)

raven told me once that he's more interested in me as a fluffy girl who wants to get healthy so is attempting to eat better, than a fluffy girl who wants to diet to be thin. i've gotten it from a lot of the guys that i flirt with, and  a lot of the women that i've flirted with too.

i agree i think it comes across as a self confidence issue, as well as kind of egotisitical. i fully support people who want to diet but i know that there are people that i've been interested where their dieting habits were a turn off because they were more concerned with their appearance than anything else. i know that there are plenty of people who diet for health reasons (i'm one of them, i do it) but sometimes it comes across as shallow.




kdsub -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:25:21 PM)

If a woman..or man goes on a diet and feels better about themselves I'm all for it...I don't care about the whys or what fors...Except of course when the diet is an illness.

Butch




christine1 -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:25:31 PM)

i used to be embarassed when i'd be on a date and i'd eat but i would eat because i was hungry and didn't want to waste the food he payed for.   i'm no longer afraid to eat in front of a man and i've never had one complain that i did, in fact i've had men comment that it is nice to see a woman with a real appetite.

i'm not going to comment on the reasons i have dieted because i'm trying to help the OP keep this from becoming a thin/fat thread.




AMaster -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:31:17 PM)

If a sub feels a need to diet, I have no problem with that.   One can not be truly submissive if she is not comfortable with herself.  I am equally tolerant of full figured women who chose not to diet.  As long as there is no health problem, I'll support either option.




Level -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:36:50 PM)

Being healthy is "sexy"; this doesn't mean nibbling on radishes and low fat frankenfoods, it means eating real food, and getting a reasonable amount of exercise of some sort.




spinninsweetness -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:46:52 PM)

I aint little but I have recieved compliments and general positive comments if I eat well on dates.... sounds silly but men tend to comment.

On dates or just out with women, I worry more, and dont finish the plate! I  worry more about what girls think than men.





Thadius -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:47:49 PM)

A couple of things come to mind.

If you are going to order a salad (or some other "diet" friendly meal), why bother going to a restaurant?  As long as I know up front, I don't see a an issue, if it is only when we get to that great restaurant, have the menus in front of us, that I am informed that "I am just gonna get a salad, I am on a diet" that I shake my head.

If a woman is comfortable enough to eat like she normally would, it makes it more comfortable for both involved.  I remember when I was "dating" a few women that would order the "fillet and lobster" only to eat a bite of each at the restaurant, claiming they were full, only to take it home in a "doggy bag".  This usually got me steaming, the entire idea of going to the restaurant was to share a good meal, together.  Not to order take out.

Anyways, to wrap this rant up a bit, I enjoy a woman that is not afraid to eat, I have no problems with a woman dieting as long as it is done responsibly.  I hadn't thought about the link between getting enough calories and energy levels during sex, but that seems to make sense.




caitlyn -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:49:00 PM)

Only mildly on topic ... but I just try to be up front right from the start. I'll tell a date before we even get to the restaurant, that I watch what I eat very closely, as a lifestyle choice, and to please not be offended if he takes me to a steak house and I order a salad, and beg him for a bite or two of his steak.
 
More on topic, I think it's how you frame it. Telling someone you are on a diet, is something I wouldn't do. I usually say something like, "Maybe you should order a little bigger meal, since I will want some." and say it with a smile and laugh. I think (but may be wrong) that most guys dig that. I think this works especially well on first dates ... its all so very casual and trusting ... you know, only a person that feels good about you, would swipe one of your cheese fries on a first date.




missturbation -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:50:12 PM)

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ANd for petes sake...if you are going to go on a diet...keep it to yourself...and educate yourself!! Rather than ordering a plate of bunny food in a restaurant know what is healthy and what is not on the menu...and dig in.

Wholeheartedly agree.
 
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raven told me once that he's more interested in me as a fluffy girl who wants to get healthy so is attempting to eat better, than a fluffy girl who wants to diet to be thin.

I think this is a really healthy attitude to the topic.
 
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If a woman..or man goes on a diet and feels better about themselves I'm all for it...I don't care about the whys or what fors...Except of course when the diet is an illness.

I presume by illness you are talking about bulimia, anorexia?
 
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 used to be embarassed when i'd be on a date and i'd eat but i would eat because i was hungry and didn't want to waste the food he payed for.   i'm no longer afraid to eat in front of a man and i've never had one complain that i did, in fact i've had men comment that it is nice to see a woman with a real appetite.

I have a phobia of eating in front of strangers. I have always had food issues. I don't like eating basically, i don't enjoy food. I eat to be healthy and live. Glad you overcame your embarassment.
 
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If a sub feels a need to diet, I have no problem with that.   One can not be truly submissive if she is not comfortable with herself. 

Whilst i would agree in theory in practice i'd beg to differ a little. What if the sub is ideal weight and to diet would be detrimental to her health? Surely reassurance from yourself that she is fine just the way she is is the best way to give he the confidence she needs.
 
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Being healthy is "sexy"; this doesn't mean nibbling on radishes and low fat frankenfoods, it means eating real food, and getting a reasonable amount of exercise of some sort.

Yep, yep, yep.




curvyslavegirl -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:53:11 PM)

Dieting is often done because the individual sees something wrong with themselves. It's "i have to be thinner because ____ right now!".
One's self worth gets wrapped up in an immediate result.
Dieting is a form of restriction that tends to end in unrealistic goals, rebound effects & self loathing.
There is nothing hot about people obsessing about things that they find as faults.
Eating healthy tends to be counter to dieting. You can eat well & take care of yourself for health without the crash diet mentality.





caitlyn -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:53:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Thadius
If a woman is comfortable enough to eat like she normally would, it makes it more comfortable for both involved.  I remember when I was "dating" a few women that would order the "fillet and lobster" only to eat a bite of each at the restaurant, claiming they were full, only to take it home in a "doggy bag".  This usually got me steaming, the entire idea of going to the restaurant was to share a good meal, together.  Not to order take out.


See, I can understand that completely. I think it would piss me off too.
 
Thats kind of where I was going with my previous post ... I like salad at a really nice restaurant, because it's usually a really good salad, and think swiping a bite or two, lets us have a meal "together."




AAkasha -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:56:54 PM)



I don't think there are many restaurants - at all - that serve realistic portions.  In fact, most serve portions that are 3 or 4 times too large. If I were dating and a man was at all anal about not eating an entire portion at a sit down restaurant he'd be crazy. I have only read casually about it, but enough to know that if you eat out regularly and finish your plate, you're probably going to be fat.  There's no way around that (well, unless you are a cyclist or someone who burns a gazillion calories a day).

Portion sizes at restaurants are COMPLETELY inappropriate.  I don't eat out often because my husband is an amazing chef, but unless it's a special occassion and I'm really, intentionally "indulging", I probably eat an average of 1/3rd of what's put on my plate. 

But is it RUDE to have a guy buy you dinner and then have you appear to "pick at the food" and barely eat it?  Or do you have to have a nutritional discussion with a guy to explain to him that really, you do like the food, and you do eat, but the portion sizes in this country (I am only talking about the US, so I don't know) are totally unhealthy? 

The whole "finish your plate" mentality is very out dated.  I eat very small portions because I subscribe to the lifestyle where I eat 5 small meals a day instead of 3 larger ones, but even when I deviate and eat normal sized meals, I wouldn't want to try to finish a restaurant serving.

Akasha




Real_Trouble -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:58:42 PM)

Diets are a huge turn-off to me simply because they speak to me about someone who has not figured out how to keep healthy on a regular basis.

If you can't figure out how to exercise appropriately, eat in such a way that you don't become overweight in the first place, and have the self-determination to stick with that kind of thing, that does not say good things to me about you.

Dieting, in spurts, is something like putting a band-aid on a severed head.  Either fix the underlying problem or don't bother.

Edit - this is not advocating scarfing down huge quantities of food.  I don't do that, and I don't expect anyone else to do so.  Being able to pack down donuts is not a requirement in a sub I have.  I expect people I date to be healthy, fit, and dedicated to staying so; if you won't treat yourself with respect, I'm certainly not going to treat you with any.




Thadius -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 12:59:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

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ORIGINAL: Thadius
If a woman is comfortable enough to eat like she normally would, it makes it more comfortable for both involved.  I remember when I was "dating" a few women that would order the "fillet and lobster" only to eat a bite of each at the restaurant, claiming they were full, only to take it home in a "doggy bag".  This usually got me steaming, the entire idea of going to the restaurant was to share a good meal, together.  Not to order take out.


See, I can understand that completely. I think it would piss me off too.
 
Thats kind of where I was going with my previous post ... I like salad at a really nice restaurant, because it's usually a really good salad, and think swiping a bite or two, lets us have a meal "together."


A woman that is willing to split the extra large truckload of chili cheese fries, can go out with me to eat anytime.




DomKen -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 3:14:35 PM)

I hate taking a date to a nice restaurant and then having her eat a couple of mouthfuls and stare longingly at the dessert cart. Yes, portions in restaurants are usually huge and eating some and taking some home is fine with me, even if it is only have a little of the entree so she can have the dessert that won't travel. But the point is to share a meal which means we should both eat and enjoy ourselves. I'll also say that while I don't mind paying for dinner for a date I do mind paying $20+ for a plate of greens and a viniagrette so I'd much prefer if my date is only going to have a salad for her to tell me before hand and we'll go to a more casual place.

As to dieting, if my lover is doing it to be healthy then I will put up with it. I try to eat healthy and get exercise but I periodically have to go on a diet to keep from needing to buy bigger pants. OTOH if a woman is dieting so she can buy a special occasion dress or bikini in a smaller size so she can wear it once I'm prone to aggravation bordering on homocidal impulses.

I do find it much more annoying that a hot curvy woman gets nasty catty comments from other women. A woman with curves in all the right places isn't fat or chubby, or putting on a few pounds or any of the other crap I've heard sotto voce from a knot of jealous females.




hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 3:22:50 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

[He then claims dieting is an intergender sport. There are only three reasons women go on diets!!
1. Competitive dieting - her best friend is skinnier.
2. Event dieting - she wants to be skinnier for a wedding etc.
3. Bikini dieting - to look 'better' in her bikini.
 
So girls is he right? Is that why we diet when we do? I personally have never dieted so i really don't know.



No, he's not right. I'm dieting to improve my health. I could give a fuck about "looking good in a bikini", my female friends have Always been skinnier than me so I came to terms with That before I ever got out of my teens, and as for "event dieting" why should I - my clothes look good and are tasteful if they're well made, well maintained, and event appropriate whether they're a size 6 or a size 16.




hisannabelle -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 4:00:24 PM)

-fr-

where are all these anti-dieting men??!!! i need one. every guy i've ever been with has wished i would go on a diet. i'd love to find a man who is happy with my size, or at least who can live with the fact that i am rabidly anti-dieting (rabidly is probably putting it nicely) due to being in recovery for an eating disorder.

a'ishah.




DomAviator -> RE: Girls that diet are a turn off ??? (7/12/2008 4:58:35 PM)

The whole dieting thing used to make me insane with my ex wife who wore a size 6 after two kids and still insisted on working out twce a day, dieting, eating bunny chow, and worse yet trying to inflict it on me as well...

Thankfully it seems most Texas girls have the appetities of a wolverines and the metabolism to match.... My friend Deb will be on the phone with me when shes going through the Churches chicken drivethrough and she will be like "Ill have the 3 piece white meat, and  corn on the cob, and fried Okra, oh and the mashed potatoes too, drown the whole thing with gravy and I want an extra biscuit or two..." Then three hours later shes calling again from Whattaburger or the Waffle House asking me if I ate yet and wanna join her. LOL She is like 5'10 amd 140 pounds. I have never seem a woman put food away like Britt can - that girl can eat a whole16" 3 topping pizza by herself , as well as wings, two liters of Mountain Dew and part of whatever Im eating - and she can do this every day without gaining a pound!

Rather than dieting, there seems to be some law with Texas women that they MUST eat part of yours. It doesnt matter if I was dining on a breaded dog turd and the asshole from a road killed skunk I think a Texas girl would say "baybeeeeee could aye have a lil uh yers purdy please dahling!" Its actually pretty nice, because I had more than enough of the label reading, special instruction, calorie counting, rabbit food bullshit with my ex-wife and various other women Ive dated. I like a girl who will chow down and eat like one of the boys! There is something really sexy and relaxing about being in Sudies Catfish Shack and having her go for the all you can eat instead of the kids portion, or having a woman come home with 20 tacos LOL. It means Im not gonna have to put up with bullshit about my portions - the only thing I need to worry about is that I get my share before its all gone LOL. 




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