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Termyn8or -> Expectations - friends - ambition (7/12/2008 7:26:06 PM)
I am more and more disappointed in this respect. When I get like this there is no cure. I am sick of these low expectation motherfuckers. Maybe I expect too much. But realize that I will not lower my expectations and a few of them are gone now. You ask them what they want to do, the answers you get are ridiculous. I want to go fishing, this from a guy who is studying for a GED at 40 hoping to break the ten buck an hour glass cieling. I want a bigger Harley, this from a guy who showed up ay my doorstep on the verge of suicide about 25 years ago. I told him to go to welfare. Not for a check, to go to school, which he did and now makes more money than I. But he is still fucking stupid. Stupid with a skill, that is less uncommon than many think. Should have let him do himself in. He can't handle it and now he's on SSRIs. Fucking idiot. I have written off four or five low expectation motherfuckers lately. We'll see if it's four or five this weekend. There is a guy without two nickels to rub together, I am off work on the weekend and have a small project downstairs. And I have money. He needs it badly. Well he is not here, so it might be five. People conning and conniving, fucking each other, I am so fucking sick of it I wish I could say beam me up Scotty. People's ambitions are just not there. And without that, why fucking live ? People have ambition, to blow the mufflers off their Harley so it is loud enough to piss people off, others want to get a car, others want to get a job. I am getting mean. I am going to tell them all a few things. Quite a few things. Partying was nice, but as people they pretty much suck. When you were out fishing, playing baseball or whatever I was studying. That is why I make twice as much money. When you were fucking and making babies I was working, and learning a trade. When you went to an amusement park I was studying, learning electronics and science. When you were watching cartoons I was learning a trade. When you were in the swimming pool I was in my Granfather's basement learning about tools and machinery. Did my Parents make me do this ? Not really. I was going to say no, that I mean they did not force me, but they instilled the interest and curiousity in me to impel me to do it voluntarily. At seventeen I was making as much money as Mom, which was not a hell of alot, but I gave her half my takehome pay and I always had money for gas beer and other things. Sometimes I wonder if my popularity is really deserved or if I bought it. Might be tough to swallow, but I would rather have the truth. Tell you what, they might be happy fishing or hunting or playing with their expensive dog. Or riding their motocycle which I would be able to afford but am not stupid enough to ride one on city streets. Their highest goal might be able to get a house and live in it, and not lose it. But that comes after years and years of wasted time. All I can say about the problem is this. If you got kids, do not have a TV, any video games or anything fun. Those are treats, not for everyday. Make fucking sure they can read, school will not do it. I have living proof in the adults resultant from these things. That brings us to another point which I will bring up in another thread about amusement parks. But I am not going to hijack myself. Know what I want to do ? I want to fly. Literally I want to go down to DA's place, lay whatever money on the table it takes and fly a jet. A small nice manueverable jet with some fucking POWER. I want to put the hammer down and make a turn, experience the G force. I don't need to solo, nor take off or land. I know it would not be cheap. But a Harley or a day at the lake just won't do it for me. I have had dreams of stealing a fighter jet, and while I might not be able to quite get that, like I said I want something with some fucking power. I know the basics, but I also am smart enough to know that I am dumb enough that it is not going to happen overnight. I want to feel young again. Like my fast cars, I want to stress the airframe. I mean at 800 nauts flip the thing on it's side and pull back hard on the stick or wheel. Push the envelope. Of course such a craft almost has to stall to land, and I dunno if I can get into that, but that is why I just want to fly, not so much take off or land. I know this sounds very familiar, like one of the terrorists, but I am not on any kind of mission, except for the experience. Not one person I know in RL even has a notion of such a thing. I know I have talked about my hood and hometown, and have said that I never want to move. But every year it looks better and better. I am sick of this shit, and that is what it is, shit. People cause at least 90% of their own problems. Surely I have mine and I am not asking anyone to solve them. But at this point, instead of more real estate or a car or something, I want to fly a jet. Even if for a few minutes, it would make my day. Others can lust after Women wine and song. Others can lust after fast cars and crotch rockets. Others can lust after money and more toys. I want to fly. Whaddya think of that. I believe I am in the wrong crowd. Too many people around me are, and I don't like to put it this way, but they are beneath me. That is an enviable position at times, but I am tired of it. I want to meet my betters. People who have done more, people who are worth more than I. I want to learn something, to better myself. I am not nor ever have been any kind of egalitarian, and that ain't changing anytime soon. Looks good from here sometimes, with the dregs I know. But even though I have no illusions of equality, I know DAMN WELL that I am not on the top of the heap. I am in this little sub-environment here, but I am tired of it. Even the people who are more well off than I are frequently idiots. I know how my boss made his money, in fact I told him the other day that if we had met 20 years ago or so we would have probably had a gunfight. He has his backroom deals as well. He's not all that smart. It seems nobody is. Flight school, that's what I need. Teach me something I don't know. I know you don't use the rudder to make a turn, and a few other basics, but on the rest of it I am lost. All the learning I am doing now is just extensions of what I already know, electronics. I want something new. Bungee jumping ain't gonna cut it, skydiving when I have acrophobia ? I think not. Fishing and hunting I have nothing against, but they are not for me. Now I am not adamant about doing this tomorrow, I know it can take some time. Perhaps DA or another in here can give me a basic idea of the costs involved. I know you are not getting into that seat without some training, I know it cannot happen overnight. But it is one of my desires and I have a way of finding a way. Understand this, I do this for me. I know I am never going to get a job as a pilot, and as far as knowing it in case I am on a plane and the pilot dies, I have no reason to go on a plane, except for this one reason. Before I die. I will never make money off of it, in fact I expect it to cost a bundle. But I want to do it for ME. Fuck everyone else. I don't even need to tell anyone that I did it ! I mean really for ME. Others can go to a fucking stupid amusement park. Noone I know has ever given anything like this any thought as far as I know. And even if I never say "I can fly" I will know, before I die. I'd like to fly for about twenty minutes, and I know even the fuel for that is going to cost. It is going to be really difficult to ascertain if this thread is hijacked. I know a couple of people in here fly, and those responses would be welcome if I get an idea of the total cost of fulfilling this ambition. To that I will have to add the cost of getting there and a motel or something. This because I will not ask someone for a place to stay. But I expect nothing from those who do not owe me. But the thread is not just about that, it is about people. Low expectations. My Dad and Uncle were both in the USAF, and neither actually flew, but they did learn. If you got a kid who can read and is bored with school, put his ass in the USAF. On average, of those who served, the ones who make the most money served in the USAF, well that was true 25 years ago, but I see no reason for it to change. My Uncle gave me some of his old books that he had read in training. He read them when he was probably 20, I read them when I was about 7. No bullshit, no three thousand hypothetical siuations, just how the fucking thing works. Wish I could find them now, but after a couple of cross country moves they are gone. But really, everybody, what would move you ? What is some deep desire you have that looks so far off, even if you are doing well. What is your ambition ? I don't mean money making ambition, I mean the real kind. Climb the Eiffel Tower or some shit ? What ? Just please don't tell me about motorcycles or fishing/hunting. I mean something that not everyone can do. Something that you want to do for you, and for no other reason. So it is a multipoint thread, that'll help keep you out of trouble with Mod11. The actual flying, dunno if that can happen this year. I figure once I get serious I will be barraged by some study materials, and then have to attend some classes, maybe go in a simulator, all that. I know this shit is not cheap. But going though it all, I would consider doing the actual flying next spring to be doing well. Travel, lodging, tuition and even fuel for the jet, I know the costs will be scary, but I would rather know. But in the end, I will have excelled. It is hard to explain, but even with two ex USAFs in the family, to my knowledge noone in the family has ever flown an aircraft. Maybe that is the impetus for my ambition, but that is neither here nor there. The ambition exists. I don't know where it comes from really, but in my mind I would like to do it while my Father is still alive. But really, I am pretty sure that even if all my relatives died today, I would still want to do this, FOR ME. I think. Perhaps it is not a Man's ambitions by which he should be judged, it may be the caliber of people who he wants to prove his worth to. I know that is grammatically incorrect, too bad. Anyway, I know this was a bit long, but now I yield the floor. Thoughts and comments are welcome except to tell me I am nuts, I already know that. T

AAkasha -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/12/2008 7:53:29 PM)
Do you surround yourself with people who you perceive to be losers so you can feel superior? What's the problem? Get new friends.

DesFIP -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/12/2008 7:57:02 PM)
So go to the phone book and look up flight school. You'll learn on prop planes and work up to a jet. Ask then how much it costs.

NeedingMore220 -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/12/2008 8:32:08 PM)
Trying new things and expanding horizons is never nuts to me. Staying in the same neighborhood and feeling superior than everyone around me and stagnating ... that's nuts to me. I went back to my 8th grade reunion awhile back. The same girls who were bitches in school and who got pregnant at 18 and married the local jock were there... still in a clique, still trying to act superior but failing miserably - all because they never expanded themselves beyond what they were at 12. They were laughable. Try it. Live it. Do whatever it is that blows your hair back and makes you feel alive. Why not?

pahunkboy -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/12/2008 9:13:09 PM)
"expectations" well the flip side of that is cousins who do everything big and everything right. No one can possibly live up to the stature of my cousins. For they are what the red carpet was made for. I am talking my dads side of the family. Now as adults we all should be fabulously successful. Enter a Polish last name. Well back in the day Polish had a hard time getting employment. So to remedy this- the entire family changed their name to an uppidy English name. All except my dad -that is. He did not think it was necessary to be ashamed of the name, ethnicity. Enter Jack.one of the 3 cousins my same age. He swears that we changed "our" name, and that the family surname had always been English!!! While I today been pounding up OSB onto my porch enclosure- Jack is a CPA who married a CPA. [note "liquidity crises, Bear Stearns", wall street..] Anyhow image is more important then reality. Yeah- he thought it was hillarious that his cousin, [me] dated men. Weak men.. defective. It was fiun and games until my ex who was on the same bus as Jack flew off the handle and began to strangle the drunk in the back of the bus who kept tautning the "faxxot". [I later thanked the bus driver for difusing the situation. He simply tapped DCs shoulder and said it wasnt worth jail over. Anyhow- be that as it may- the likes of Jack is the type that jacks fanmily is way better then the Brady bunch. So- long story short- per the entended family- expectations of me- are set by me. Controlling the hammer today was prime. To glide it in, right on the stud- securely, evenly, and as flawless as one can get...maybe. -what I am arriving at is 1. dont live for "some day"... some day I will be happy- some day. some day I will excell. this is a set up for never getting to niravna. 2. dont live in the past. "if only things were like blah blah blah" - basically everything revolves around what once was and no longer is, and can never be. 3- which brings us to the here and now. Own this monent, own your day, Own YOU.

Termyn8or -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/12/2008 9:45:12 PM)
I think I thunk up a new saying. Freedom can only be taken, but respect can only be given. Like Rick.Not a real close friend, and he did ten years in the joint. When asked he will say "Young and stupid". Killed a guy in a fight. But he doesn't act the tough guy, and when we talk we connect. He tells me about a whole bunch of shit he got away with. He knows I am a nut as well. See I could have been there but for a few strokes of luck. He came over lots of times and never asked for a thing, always brought something. One time he asks and wants to pay for it, I told him keep his money. Now this guy is a psychopath, and I call him that from time to time " Ahh, my favorite psychopath, have a seat" . But he makes his own way in life, smoking dope, with a bad criminal record, and does pretty well. How's come this other dude can't do that ? (Actually his ex brother in law). Actually the guy does not make all that much money, but the job includes a free car, free gas and free insurance. Figure all that up, it makes a big difference. He gets to use the dealer plates. A convicted felon ! I don't know what to say, I am just saying is it is hard to bestow respect,and that there are different kinds of respect. And that not only does race not matter, even income level and socio-economic level have nothing to do with it. How do you make decisions like this ? T

Vendaval -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/13/2008 12:04:06 AM)
When I need to make decisions it is important to get away from all the usual distractions. So I go for a hike or spend an afternoon at a beach alone, do some thinking and meditating and praying. Writing out the pros and cons for the decision can help you see patterns right in front of you.

TheHeretic -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/13/2008 1:29:54 AM)
Have you ever considered a trip to Russia, Termy? You can buy your way into the ground school, simulator, and even the cockpit of a fighter jet. A better bet might to be to make some friends down at a local general aviation airport. You might even be able to work out some sort of trade for off the books lessons/stick time. Me? I want to be able to do a 49 state driving trip, slowly, and in a very comfy RV. Not there yet.

Termyn8or -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/13/2008 1:59:47 AM)
OK, I am not learning all the bullshit, which is not bullshit, but I do not have the time. I can go where I need to go, but I am not spending months on this. Basic instructions. I do not want to solo. I just want to fly the thing and pull a couple of moves. If whover shows me the ropes thinks I can take off I'll give it a try maybe, I hear landing can be a bit tricky, I don't even want to fuck with that. We are talking thousands of dollars here just for a twenty minute ride, I am willing to pay, but I can't give up too much time. Too much time off work makes Termy a broke boy. I want to know how to "Get that fucking nose down" because otherwise you are wasting fuel, I need that fuel for my G force test. :-) T

camille65 -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/13/2008 2:00:41 AM)
I think holding friends to your expectations is a recipe for disaster. Quite honestly, why should someone else live up to your expectations? That is guaranteed disappointment. Especially if you feel someone should be in a different job or have different goals from what they feels. If you are looking around at your friends and feeling like this about them then maybe it is time to revaluate your criteria for friendship. I'm pretty sure not everyone wants to climb Mt Everest or scale the Chrysler Building as their goal. Many people really do seem content to live their lives quietly. Having a good fishing spot may be one persons nirvana. My personal goals are very simple compared to some others, but they are MY goals. The only one who has a right to be disappointed in my goals are myself and my owner.

Termyn8or -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/13/2008 2:37:38 AM)
camille, you have always been nice to me so I will preface with this, do not take it personally. Try to detach yourself a bit if necessary, but I say what I say. So I am to let these people remain not much smarter than animals ? Keep fucking each other over, including their oladies and their kids ? I don't see that calling. Somebody has to tell them because their Parents did not teach them. If there is hope I owe it. But if they don't take to it then I have to give up, but not until then. I have had a very diverse and rich upbringing, I mean such that you could not imagine, even if I told you. I think that since the world gave that to me I owe it out, to those who are receptive. I mean I was taught to study and up till a certain age I did that. Then I was plunged into a world of crooks and politics. Bigtime. I was not ready, but the olman showed me. He only tore into me once, that because I almost fucked up a deal that made us around a half a million dollars. I learned fast. My background is very unique and unusual. As much as I may have hated it, I now appreciate it. I almost got into a fight the other night, but I could handle it, that is to avoid it. Actually I don't fight anymore, I have an AK47. Those days are over and I am 47 with all my teeth and hair and I want to keep it that way. If the cops don't show up in an hour I get rid of the body. If you think I am fucking kidding think again. This is MY HOUSE and there is a cliff, well a hill, at the end of the street. You can be there if you attack me in my house. But the whole thing is this. I am so disappointed with people that it is almost depressing. I don't get depressed, but I am fucking very close to it. T

camille65 -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/13/2008 3:28:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or camille, you have always been nice to me so I will preface with this, do not take it personally. Try to detach yourself a bit if necessary, but I say what I say. So I am to let these people remain not much smarter than animals ? Keep fucking each other over, including their oladies and their kids ? I don't see that calling. Somebody has to tell them because their Parents did not teach them. If there is hope I owe it. But if they don't take to it then I have to give up, but not until then. This is why you are depressed IMO, you cannot be responsible for so many others. If you know people that routinely fuck others over then.. why be friends with them? In a way I think it is damaging to be around people like that, especially if you have the need to try and change them. Termy, not everyone wants to be changed. Those that do are recognizable by the effort they put into things. The others? Sounds like they live at a level you don't, and aren't willing to grow no matter how much you want them to. I have had a very diverse and rich upbringing, I mean such that you could not imagine, even if I told you. I think that since the world gave that to me I owe it out, to those who are receptive. I mean I was taught to study and up till a certain age I did that. Then I was plunged into a world of crooks and politics. Bigtime. I was not ready, but the olman showed me. He only tore into me once, that because I almost fucked up a deal that made us around a half a million dollars. I learned fast. My background is very unique and unusual. As much as I may have hated it, I now appreciate it. I almost got into a fight the other night, but I could handle it, that is to avoid it. Actually I don't fight anymore, I have an AK47. Those days are over and I am 47 with all my teeth and hair and I want to keep it that way. If the cops don't show up in an hour I get rid of the body. If you think I am fucking kidding think again. This is MY HOUSE and there is a cliff, well a hill, at the end of the street. You can be there if you attack me in my house. But the whole thing is this. I am so disappointed with people that it is almost depressing. I don't get depressed, but I am fucking very close to it. I can feel your emotion and I wish I could hug you. As I said earlier, if you balance your happiness on others then I'm afraid that you will be surrounded by disappointment. I'm sorry you are going through this but maybe you need to? Maybe you need this experience to clarify priorities? Other peoples failings are NOT your failings. T

NorthernGent -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/13/2008 3:29:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or When you were out fishing, playing baseball or whatever I was studying. That is why I make twice as much money. You can't buy happiness, T......perhaps you need to take a look at yourself rather than your friends.....your posts aren't exactly the musings of a content man.

DomAviator -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/13/2008 4:57:57 AM)
Term, there is nothing "easy" or fast about flying a high performance tactical jet. You can get L-39 time any of a zillion places for roughly $1600 an hour. There are several of them based at my local airport as its the new rich boys playtoy much to my glee and the insurance companies chagrin. However, you will need to work on your attitude before you go up. Im being quite serious here, you have a bit of a defiant / domineering / Im gonna do what I want to do attitude and that will hurt ya in a jet. Scratch that, it will kill you - quickly. I took a gf up for some air combat maneuvering over the gulf in a clients L-39 and she had to take 3 days of classes before I took her on her little 2 hour adventure. Basically I ran her through an abbreviated version of this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcPXIXnCIFw She had to learn to swim on the pool with full flight gear, including a parachute with shroud lines to entangle in. I took her to Sonny Carter where she went through the disorientation trainer, got dunked, and had a rapid deco and hypoxia in the chamber. She learned to parachute into both land and water, she learned how to unhook her harness while being dragged behind Dales quad at 10mph, we dumped a gallon of Jet-A on the tarmac and lit it so that she could dance in the flames walk out, and "stop drop and roll", we even threw her off a moving boat and left her bobbing in Galveston Bay for two hours... (Before I get bitched at for "abuse", she wanted to go up and this training was the proper admission ticket to the ride, she was wearing standard aviation protective gear, and we are trained professionals who did everything we did in a safe and proper manner. We do this shit for a living and have all been through it ourselves once a year. When we played with fire there were two men with extinguishers ready, when we played in the pool there was a diver in the water, when we were in the bay I went in the water with her and there was a diver on the boat etc...We know what we are doing. ) She also had to obtain a first class medical from an FAA designated Aviation Medical Examiner, and was 20 years old and in excellent physical shape. Despite this, she lost consciousness 3 times during the flight due to G-Forces, couldnt wear a bra for a week due to bruises from the harness, and had to wear skirts rather than pants because of the fist sized bruises in her inner thighs... If you arent in truly excellent physical condition and dont have prior experience you best begin physical training lest you spend the bulk of your $1600 an hour ride unconscious. Im not being facetious, before I got in a jet trainer, I had to complete OCS, API, and Primary Flight Training. That was a lot of PT and morning runs before I got in the jet... Term I dont mean any offense by this but DO NOT even think about getting into a high performace jet like an L-39 or T-38 or Mig unless you climb into that aircraft with the understanding that you know less than nothing about what is going on, you are a danger to yourself and others, and if the instructor says something you do it without so much as a moments hesitation. Even if its something you think is stupid. Case in point, If I say "do not stretch your legs" or "do not let your arms get outside the width of your torso" that is because if we have to eject, or if you have an uncommanded ejection -ie the seat just fires by itself which happens even on US Navy aircraft much less 30 year old eastern bloc shit - if your limbs are not the way I tell you to have them, they will NOT be leaving the aircraft with you. If that leg is stretched out, the cockpit rim will be tearing it off. If I say keep the visor down, if you do not you will have no eyes when the canopy breaking charge fires and you have shards of Lexan driven through your face by the 500 kt slip stream. If I say eject eject eject! Pull the yellow and black handle. Dont even say "Huh?" Cause I wont be there anymore, Ill be a quarter mile behind you waiting for the man-seat separation charge to detonate and kick me clear of the seat. (Now in her case I lied, cause I would punch her out before I went myself. However, anyone Im not fucking shouldnt expect that heroic act of self sacrifice. No greater love a man hath that he give up his life for a friend, however clients with signed liability waivers arent friends and their deaths can be handled with a report to the NTSB.I'm not staying in the fireball for them.) It doesnt matter how much your paying, you wont be calling the shots and you will have to be a good boy back there doing what your told, when your told, how your told with the clear understanding that you know nothing and have no say over anything and will do what exactly what the instructor says and nothing more or nothing less. When a student completes API in the USN he reports to Primary wearing a patch that says "Student Naval Aviator - ZERO Hours - I Am Dangerous" If you think all you need to do is go put down your money and take your ride, and that you dont have to learn anything or prepare or get physically conditioned etc then your better off not going at all. Anyone who would take someone up under those conditions is someone you dont want to go with anyway. In case you think that Im being "overly cautious" or "paranoid" be aware that far more military pilots are killed in training than in combat. Every time you strap on a high performance jet - you run the risk of dying like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gJxzgW8NUs and sometimes you dont even have to be doing anything except flying straight and level when they decide to do this all by themselves.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG_myJ1fZJY

hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/13/2008 7:09:45 AM)
Term - I can definately understand and appreciate the desire for Hi-Pro Jet time. It's something I would damn near give my left tit for. (Figuratively, at least.) I know that it's unlikely I will ever actually DO so, for a plethora of reasons ranging from lack of physical conditioning to having other things to spend that sort of money on that hold a much higher priority with me. Unlike Kev's former gf whom he took up - it's not something that I would necessarily be willing to fuck my way into lol. (Hmm- ok, that one I May have to think about, simply because if I were presented with the opportunity to do just that, I would be hard pressed to say No! LOL) But he is right about both the Risks involved, and what you'd have to expect once in the cockpit. Even for someone like me, who has their primary flight ticket, when you're in a situation like that you are Absolutely Not the PIC, period. You do what the instructor tells you to do, when he/she tells you to do it, without hesitation or arguement or question - or you wind up hurt or dead. Even in a small prop plane, until you've done Solo time, then you're faced with "do what you're told when you're told." And until the checkride with the FAA is Over and the inspector tells you that you've Passed - it remains the case as long as that CFI or Inspector is in the aircraft. While not doing what you're told exactly when you're told in a small prop plane is a lot less likely to wind you up as worm food, it still can - and in situations where it won't, at the very least it will get you very grounded by the instructor or inspector. (Not a difficulty if you're not serious about earning your wings, but definately something that was considered by those of us doing exactly that but suffering from Control Issues.) Now - as to the other portion of your post. That's a bit harder to tackle, or to comment on, for a variety of reasons. Are any of us really qualified to say what is or is not sufficient ambition? Simply because our expectations and standards for Ourselves are high - does that give us the right to hold the rest of humanity to those same standards? If someone is Honestly Happy with lower expectations of themselves than what you set for them, do you begrudge them that happiness? If you honestly consider those around you to be beneath you - or the dregs - then Change The People Around You. A dear friend of mine explained it like this: It is just as easy for a woman to meet, fall in love with, and marry a Rich man as a Poor man. Which one she meets is going to depend in great part on Where she Hangs Out. If she hangs out in places like walmart and a neighborhood hole in the wall beer joint where the highlight of the week is a Tuesday Night in-house Pool Tournament, and no one did more than graduate high school or makes more than $9 an hour as a laborer - chances are she's gonna meet, date, and marry a poor man. If she hangs out at places like an upscale club and art gallery, chances are she's going to meet someone of a much higher social order to date and marry. This concept is easily translated to other areas as well. If you want friends of a higher order than the dregs, you have to put yourself someplace to Meet such people. If you don't want human mosquitos hanging around and sucking up what energy and finances you have, tell them bluntly not to come back around and put yourself someplace where you're less likely to meet the Same Type of person. In the meantime, give serious thought to whether it's your aquaintances that you're fed up with - or yourself. Often we find, when such examination is made, that it is something within ourselves that is unfullfilled by our current situation that is gnawing at us, rather than those who are around us IN that situation.

pahunkboy -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/13/2008 7:12:46 AM)
Good morning. The flying a jet for Term, no. It is pretty much like running an automated dishwasher. Load it, select the setttings, turn it on. Think of 50 dishwashers all trying to land at a great kitchen/airport. The feeling of flying- cool. I have dreams that I can jump real high. Maybe that sensation can be achieved by a trampoline, --tho for T, try going up in a hot air balloon, hang gliding, bungee jumping, jet skying... or a place where the gravity is thrown off.... so for a fee one can float like an austronaut. If all this is too much- maybe a day at an amusement park. :-) People are full of BS. I wanted to get to know more local people... well- of the batch I met, I am beyond the mind puzzles "they" do onto themself with spill over on me. here is one version. waah waah waah, not ah, im helpless and this is the worst day of my life... be miserable with me or you arew no freind, be a blow off with me or you are no friend, loan me $20 or you are no friend...you KNOW I always pay you back. Woe is me. I cant do anything. I have no choices what-so-ever. i choose to dwell on this day- the catastrophe of my life. enable me. you better or you will become one of the bad unfair people that you promised not to be. you said you wanted to help. as long as you are here, fix my vacumn cleaner- wait ...it still doesnt work- do the floors so i knlow that life is grand. // Good mention on job skills. that is not the same thing as educated. you seem like maybe you are in a rut. many of us are. if the car tire is flat- getting a jump and wax job wont help much. so the riddle ISSS how does a single person 40ish with no kids mingle and develope friends? next how to find friends when people work 60 hours a week and have no time. or- the person is tripped out on too much teck, ot too much alcohol, drugs, gambling, sleaziness or religion. ? much of the worlds time is on raising- supporting off-spring. I/you cant know what that is like. So this component is like being on a different planet. Then there is the pravelent mind that goes with societal myths as facts... and the group think is THE way of the world- the gospel. no need to "critical think".... NONE. So in a word- " rut "

wandersalone -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/13/2008 7:30:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or camille, you have always been nice to me so I will preface with this, do not take it personally. Try to detach yourself a bit if necessary, but I say what I say. So I am to let these people remain not much smarter than animals ? Keep fucking each other over, including their oladies and their kids ? I don't see that calling. Somebody has to tell them because their Parents did not teach them. If there is hope I owe it. But if they don't take to it then I have to give up, but not until then. ............................................................ But the whole thing is this. I am so disappointed with people that it is almost depressing. I don't get depressed, but I am fucking very close to it. T Maybe it is time to let your friends live their lives the way they choose even if their dream is to have a motorbike or go fishing. Those seem like very realistic goals to me. There is a lot to be said for contentment and for recognising the things which you cannot control or change (ie. other people).

Real_Trouble -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/13/2008 7:41:56 AM)
In short: You can't control other people; you can perhaps inspire them through your actions, but that's unreliable at best. You either need to accept people who they are, or realize they are simply not a person you respect, and move on. I have done both in my life. In terms of your own ambitions, often you and luck are the only two things standing between yourself and achieving them. Whenever I fail at something myself, I believe the responsibility is (almost always) mine. Especially if I intend to hold other people to reasonably high standards, I feel it would be insanely hypocritical not to have standards at least that high for myself; mine are actually much higher. So, in short, I can sympathize with not wanting unambitious friends (I've lost touch with many past friends for that reason), but at the same time, you have to hold yourself accountable, stand behind your decisions even when they are hard, and don't bullshit yourself about changing other people (you won't).

kiwisub12 -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/13/2008 9:19:46 AM)
Join Big Brothers and mentor a child - make a real difference in one life - not a diffuse wishing that the people around you would come up to your standards.

DomAviator -> RE: Expectations - friends - ambition (7/13/2008 12:53:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy The flying a jet for Term, no. It is pretty much like running an automated dishwasher. Load it, select the setttings, turn it on. Think of 50 dishwashers all trying to land at a great kitchen/airport. PA he is not talking about flying a 737 and using the autopilot to make standard rate turns in a holding pattern. What he was asking about is air combat maneuvering a tactical jet. Ie he is asking about something like this flight in an L-39: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw0TyUECoKk There is nothing about it even remotely "like running a dishwasher" unless your dishwasher requires you to wear fireproof clothing and a helmet while breathing oxygen through a pressure demand mask, while sitting on top of a chair full of explosives, as you climb at 4300 feet per minute doing 500 mph. LOL Is your dishwasher prone to tearing itself apart and killing you if you overload it? A tactical jet will happily disintegrate in flight if you make an agressive control input above Va or if you exceed Vne. You will yank the sick and as you find yourself saying where did the tail go? I used to have two wings? What the fuck is this fireball I was in an airplane a second ago. Do you have to use the Anti-G Straining manuever, which literally requires you to flex every muscle in your body during forced breathing, so as to fight to stay conscious when you are using your dishwasher??? Rhi, actually she didnt fuck her way into it... It didnt even cost me anything. The L-39 belonged to a client of mine who is too old to even fly in it without passing out. I usually charge him 200 an hour to buzz his beach house or boat with it so that he can tell his guests "See that there aeroplane, thats mine!" I dont know if they have gotten into OK yet, but they are the new toy of the Texas wealthy... There is another guy here who has 75 hours on an ASEL ticket and he bought one... Hes got about 1500 hours to log before the insurance will let him fly it without adult supervision.. KACHING! [:D] Support the Czech republic boys, buy L-39's LOL. Edited to add: When you watch the video look at the veins in the guys neck, and watch how he breathes as they maneuver... Thats very telling right there.

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