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Rope burns - 7/12/2008 8:21:19 PM

gordie452000

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How do you deal with rope burn? My sub loves being tied, but she has a tendency to pull mightily on the bindings. Even with multiple windings on the wrists/ankles, she manages to get some burns. This is a problem for many reasons, mostly that she has a job where she can't wear long sleeves all the time, etc.

I've tried using cloth underneath the bindings, and that seems to help. But I wonder if there are any better ways short of using strips of cloth instead of rope.

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RE: Rope burns - 7/12/2008 10:05:35 PM

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I think you're better off with Rabbit Fur Padded Leather Cuffs in this situation.

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RE: Rope burns - 7/13/2008 1:34:59 AM

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Tie her with something softer or order her not to struggle. Or, start a new fashion trend by having her wear very wide bracelets.

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RE: Rope burns - 7/13/2008 7:22:21 AM

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are you using a nylon rope? ........ if so try cotton or hemp.

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RE: Rope burns - 7/13/2008 8:29:52 AM

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have her wear a bodysuit under the rope.

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RE: Rope burns - 7/13/2008 10:15:03 AM

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Try hemp. By good quality rope from kinkyropes or twisted monk. The ordinary rope you buy in hardware/box stores stretches when pulled on. She's pulling, it stretches, and it snaps back when she moves the other way causing burns. Less stretchiness, less burns. Now if it's just the wrists that matter, then have her cut the cuffs of a cheap turtle neck and tie over them. Not a cure but will lessen it.

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RE: Rope burns - 7/13/2008 11:49:08 AM

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Thank you for the advice.

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RE: Rope burns - 7/18/2008 8:13:35 AM

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Well I will tell you how those of use who use EXTREME rope bondage do it. I may get a whipping on this one.
SPORTS TAPE I use red it looks better but it does not stick to the skin it is tacky and strecks a lot of people tape their knees with it. other than that make sure the rope is tight.

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RE: Rope burns - 7/18/2008 5:00:45 PM

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Sports tape, bondage tape, vet wrap, leather cuffs (padding optional). Anything that will keep the rope off the body. But a velcro or buckling cuff is probably the fastest.

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RE: Rope burns - 7/19/2008 4:25:28 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: gordie452000

How do you deal with rope burn? My sub loves being tied, but she has a tendency to pull mightily on the bindings. Even with multiple windings on the wrists/ankles, she manages to get some burns. This is a problem for many reasons, mostly that she has a job where she can't wear long sleeves all the time, etc.

I've tried using cloth underneath the bindings, and that seems to help. But I wonder if there are any better ways short of using strips of cloth instead of rope.

Just curious; any particular reason for this - "she has a tendency to pull mightily on the bindings"?

You want her to struggle? She struggles anyway - like she's reluctant or conflicted? All the subs I've known tend to go almost comatose in blissful oblivion when bound.... Perhaps a little reassurance or general communication might also help - esp if she's unaware of how much she struggles at the time.

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RE: Rope burns - 7/19/2008 4:28:26 AM

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OP, what about tying her arms up higher where the marks could be hidden by clothing? just a thought. i love rope burns but i wouldn't want my co workers to know, that's for sure.

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RE: Rope burns - 7/19/2008 9:56:47 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50

quote:

ORIGINAL: gordie452000

How do you deal with rope burn? My sub loves being tied, but she has a tendency to pull mightily on the bindings. Even with multiple windings on the wrists/ankles, she manages to get some burns. This is a problem for many reasons, mostly that she has a job where she can't wear long sleeves all the time, etc.

I've tried using cloth underneath the bindings, and that seems to help. But I wonder if there are any better ways short of using strips of cloth instead of rope.

Just curious; any particular reason for this - "she has a tendency to pull mightily on the bindings"?

You want her to struggle? She struggles anyway - like she's reluctant or conflicted? All the subs I've known tend to go almost comatose in blissful oblivion when bound.... Perhaps a little reassurance or general communication might also help - esp if she's unaware of how much she struggles at the time.

Focus.

I'm a sub that you could say "pulls mightily on the bindings", and even though I love what Alpha's doing to me, my natural reaction to the pain is to struggle, curse at him, whimper, the like. He'd hate it if I went comatose. Just saying, just because she pulls at the ropes doesn't mean she's unwilling to undergo the session. In fact, I have to be tied down or I'd be writhing around too much!

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RE: Rope burns - 7/19/2008 10:27:36 AM

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Thank you, ABC. I am a very heavy pain slut - but what that means, for me, anyway, is that I want to be in pain!
In a good session, I grab at the chains and struggle a lot. I use mantras, i scream out, ( usually, 'she loves you!', sometimes, in a certain headspace, 'I'm sorry! I'm sorry!' even though we do not role play 'punishment', and it is all what I want and enjoy going on) I struggle, roll away, ect. Bindings allow me to do this. When unbound (or ordered to be still), I put all my strength of intention into it and do not move about so much. If ordered to be quite, i will, likewise. However, I enjoy the session much more if I am free to struggle and whimper and scream.
Towards the end of a given session, as my subspace deepens, I get still and quiet, esp as I start to 'fly'.
Focus, do the subs you know experience orgasm from their sessions? Are they still and quiet and comatose during orgasm?

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RE: Rope burns - 7/19/2008 3:34:31 PM

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Focus, do the subs you know experience orgasm from their sessions? Are they still and quiet and comatose during orgasm?

And abcbsex too, re "comatose", I'm just talking about *bondage* - as was the OP, IMO; there's nothing about pain or orgasm or any other additional stimulation in the OP....

As often as not, I quite enjoy the viewing headspace of the girl's utter helplessnness through bondage and when the ropes start going on, the girl's own headspace of surrender and acceptance etc takes her over. I generally only hold her back from that headspace enough to get her bound the way I want or if I do have a lot more planned for her than just helplessness....

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RE: Rope burns - 7/19/2008 3:52:57 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50

You want her to struggle? She struggles anyway - like she's reluctant or conflicted? All the subs I've known tend to go almost comatose in blissful oblivion when bound.... Perhaps a little reassurance or general communication might also help - esp if she's unaware of how much she struggles at the time.

Focus.

Of course, each reation and each submissive is different, but I sort of *enjoy* struggling sometimes (it generally depends on my emotional state - if I've been stressed, I tend to love the feeling of surrendering to a major struggle more). It isn't that I really want/need to get out for some reason - that's what safewords and safesignals are for. However, there is the surrender to the bondage and to be reminded of the ... well ... 'required' surrender that can be very hot sometimes.

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RE: Rope burns - 7/19/2008 4:19:12 PM

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quote:

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You want her to struggle? She struggles anyway - like she's reluctant or conflicted? All the subs I've known tend to go almost comatose in blissful oblivion when bound.... Perhaps a little reassurance or general communication might also help - esp if she's unaware of how much she struggles at the time.

Focus.

Of course, each reation and each submissive is different, but I sort of *enjoy* struggling sometimes (it generally depends on my emotional state - if I've been stressed, I tend to love the feeling of surrendering to a major struggle more). It isn't that I really want/need to get out for some reason - that's what safewords and safesignals are for. However, there is the surrender to the bondage and to be reminded of the ... well ... 'required' surrender that can be very hot sometimes.

Yep, the girl is "allowed" to struggle if she wants, *after* I'm done tying her. It's just that most don't, in my experience, 'cause they're too "busy" enjoying their predicament - just like me. But when it happens, it's simply a matter of checking in with her, in case there is a problem....

With a sub new to me, esp if she's a lifestyle newbie too, I will actually demand of her to get herself free of the binds and berate and cajole her etc if (or likely when) she can't do it, no matter how hard she struggles. Then I'll "push her down", have her look me in the eyes and burn into her mind that the ropes are a physical extension of *MY* control over her; that all choices (esp release from bondage) are solely mine, NOT hers, and that until I decide to do so she is to "let it all go" and just relax until I "come and get her back".

Thereafter, applying the ropes tends to initiate a "comatose" state of headspace for her.... And it's another sunny Sunday morning here - time to get out and be part of it.

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RE: Rope burns - 7/19/2008 5:31:48 PM

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Focus, do the subs you know experience orgasm from their sessions? Are they still and quiet and comatose during orgasm?

And abcbsex too, re "comatose", I'm just talking about *bondage* - as was the OP, IMO; there's nothing about pain or orgasm or any other additional stimulation in the OP....

As often as not, I quite enjoy the viewing headspace of the girl's utter helplessnness through bondage and when the ropes start going on, the girl's own headspace of surrender and acceptance etc takes her over. I generally only hold her back from that headspace enough to get her bound the way I want or if I do have a lot more planned for her than just helplessness....

Focus.

That makes sense. I love the ritual-like aspect of being put into bondage, for that I am very still. sometimes if I'm feeling bratty I'll check and see if the knots are good along the way but for the most part I let Alpha work his magic. I was reading the OP in terms of s&m though, not solely bondage.

< Message edited by abcbsex -- 7/19/2008 6:02:41 PM >

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RE: Rope burns - 7/20/2008 4:59:43 PM

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Bit of an aside...Focus....I don't know how new your pic is, but I'm seeing it for the first time....nice!

Now...rope burns...I'm not sure how hemp, unless it's well broken in will not leave burns...it's scratchy when fairly new, so OP...be careful if you go that route. Beyond that, padding the area is a good idea. I also suggest using bola bolas for wrists and ankles. It's binding but can be loose enought that she would really have to struggle hard to create burns. The goal of a good bola is to not cause weight bearing/wriggling problems like burns and pinches. If you google RiggerMortis and bola, I'm sure you'll find the bind.

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RE: Rope burns - 7/20/2008 6:55:28 PM

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I see a difference between pulling at the binds and struggling. I pull, when my arms are bound over my head and he is playing with my body then I tend to pull hard with my arms. The more he works me up, the more I strain and the more fun we both have.
He puts rabbit fur around my wrists to minimize the possible scraping and redness.
Yummm I love pulling on my bonds when he is driving me over the edge, making my entire body beg for release... so yup I pull on them.

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