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DarkVictory -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 11:26:02 AM)

Ah yes, captivity.  One of my favorite fantasies.  I will eventually open a compound in northern Nevada, out where there's a whole lot of nothing.  I'll put in a nice deep well, a couple of large solar arrays, and a couple of house appropriate wind turbines.  The area I've selected is good for sustained winds.  West of the house itself I'll have a concrete battery bunker and diesel generator pad.  Under the pad I'll have a few thousand gallons of diesel, and next to that, separated by a buried rebar wall, I'll place the LNG tank.

The main house itself will be a pre-fab log home of approximately 3500 sq ft.  Under the house will be a two story deep basement.  When the house pad is dug out, I will tell the structural guys that I want a series of concrete pre-fabbed pylons driven in between the main house and the storage pad.  Why?  So I can run additional foundation work above, later if I want.  That's the lie of course.

Once the traditional construction is in place, I will dig out the captivity room by myself, using the driven pilings as the foundation support.  I'll ust shotcrete on the ceiling and floor, and 1" rebar as a reinforcement.  This will virtually guarantee structural integrtity.  The door to the captivity room will be a counterbalanced concrete slab, about 9' high, 6' wide, and 18" thick in two layers with fibreglass insulation in between.  This will allow me to have confidence that even if the captive gets loose, she's not getting out.

Down in the underground, all that is really needed is a set of 110 and 220 circuits, a sloped floor drain to the septic, and a set of overhead steel bars.  Other things can be added for comfort, but are not required.  The lighting will be suspended above the steel bars, out of reach.

This now brings me to the actual method of captivity.

Long ago, French farmers of the Languedoc had a method of bringing their geese and ducks to market.  This is the method I will use.

Once the girl is safely in my posession, she will be 'convinced' to swallow a ball of rolled up teflon thread.  She will be made to drink a full 16 oz glass of water following the ingestion, and then chained hands over head to the bars.  Within three days, and often as fast as 24 hours, the string will make an appearance out of her ass.  The other end of the string is then tied to a slightly larger and very slightly stronger polyethelene string.  She is made to swallow.  Very carefully over the next several hours, the thread is pulled through her, very very slowly.

This procedure is repeated a couple more times, until a nice, lovely and virtually unbreakable 1/4" poly rope has been passed completely through her body.  Once this procedure is complete, both ends of the rope are tied off on a free-moving swing arm, allowing the captive to move freely from bed to wherever.  She will need to be taught how to keep her rope clean, and will be fed only soft or liquid foods.  During this period of captivity however, I can imagine little more humiliating, degrading, terrifying, and monstrous way to ensure her compliance and utter servile need to please.

Yes, I know this is icky.  :)




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 11:37:13 AM)

I dunno about icky, I'm just wondering what safety this is?  Will the digestive system be ok with that?

Again- don't put YOUR idea of what's humiliating, degrading, terrifying or monstrous onto someone else.  That's the first mistake most people make in humiliation play.




DarkVictory -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 11:39:27 AM)

Yeah, polyethelene rope has a high tolerance for the system, it lasts a nice long time.

Oh, and dude.... if you don't think most women would find being held captive in a concrete cell under the Nevada desert in the dark, naked and cold, held in place with a rope through their mouth and out their guts to be humiliating, degrading, and terrifying, I'd posit a lack of basic empathy on your part.




accipitres -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 11:55:17 AM)

I have been, but it was non-consensual, so my response would probably be irrelevant




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 11:59:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkVictory
Yeah, polyethelene rope has a high tolerance for the system, it lasts a nice long time.

I'm not worried about the rope, I'm worried about the soft inner organs
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Oh, and dude.... if you don't think most women would find being held captive in a concrete cell under the Nevada desert in the dark, naked and cold, held in place with a rope through their mouth and out their guts to be humiliating, degrading, and terrifying, I'd posit a lack of basic empathy on your part.

A) My lack of empathy is extremely well documented on here and in other arenas

B) I didn't say what most people would- what you need to be concerned about is what THAT woman would.  The fact is, someone who'd be willing to go into that sort of situation to begin with would already have a different perspective than most on the situation and it's best not to generalize. 




DarkVictory -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 12:03:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkVictory
Yeah, polyethelene rope has a high tolerance for the system, it lasts a nice long time.

I'm not worried about the rope, I'm worried about the soft inner organs
quote:


Oh, and dude.... if you don't think most women would find being held captive in a concrete cell under the Nevada desert in the dark, naked and cold, held in place with a rope through their mouth and out their guts to be humiliating, degrading, and terrifying, I'd posit a lack of basic empathy on your part.

A) My lack of empathy is extremely well documented on here and in other arenas


Well, this has long been a buddhist and tibetan meditation practice, fuck if I know why.  Thats in part where I got it from.

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B) I didn't say what most people would- what you need to be concerned about is what THAT woman would.  The fact is, someone who'd be willing to go into that sort of situation to begin with would already have a different perspective than most on the situation and it's best not to generalize. 


True enough, and good point.




stef -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 12:07:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkVictory

This procedure is repeated a couple more times, until a nice, lovely and virtually unbreakable 1/4" poly rope has been passed completely through her body.  Once this procedure is complete, both ends of the rope are tied off on a free-moving swing arm, allowing the captive to move freely from bed to wherever.  She will need to be taught how to keep her rope clean, and will be fed only soft or liquid foods.  During this period of captivity however, I can imagine little more humiliating, degrading, terrifying, and monstrous way to ensure her compliance and utter servile need to please.

Cute.  You had better add a subterranean lime pit to your blueprints because you're going to need a place to dispose of your guests' bodies.

~stef




DarkVictory -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 12:08:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: DarkVictory

This procedure is repeated a couple more times, until a nice, lovely and virtually unbreakable 1/4" poly rope has been passed completely through her body.  Once this procedure is complete, both ends of the rope are tied off on a free-moving swing arm, allowing the captive to move freely from bed to wherever.  She will need to be taught how to keep her rope clean, and will be fed only soft or liquid foods.  During this period of captivity however, I can imagine little more humiliating, degrading, terrifying, and monstrous way to ensure her compliance and utter servile need to please.

Cute.  You had better add a subterranean lime pit to your blueprints because you're going to need a place to dispose of your guests' bodies.

~stef



As I said above, you'd best tell that to the monks that do this for weeks on end and seem somehow to survive.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 12:14:42 PM)

So you're going to need someone with a lifetime of practice and focus equal to that of a tibetan monk who ALSO wants to be enslaved long term?

Just because Keri Strugg can do something on a balance beam does not mean it's safe for anyone at home to tru.




stef -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 12:14:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkVictory

As I said above, you'd best tell that to the monks that do this for weeks on end and seem somehow to survive.

Which monks actually engage in this practice?  I'd be interested to read about them because I've only ever heard this mentioned before in bad porn stories.

~stef 




NumberSix -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 12:22:04 PM)

The Mad and Masochistic Monks of Mesopotamia published by lifestylepress?

Or did you seek a more scholarly cite?

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DarkVictory -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 12:27:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stef

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkVictory

As I said above, you'd best tell that to the monks that do this for weeks on end and seem somehow to survive.

Which monks actually engage in this practice?  I'd be interested to read about them because I've only ever heard this mentioned before in bad porn stories.

~stef 



It's a yogic practice called something I can't remember, not sutra neti, involving string and 'flushing out' the intestines http://books.google.com/books?id=n7XOnIkBQ0QC&pg=PA66&lpg=PA66&dq=yoga+string+swallow&source=web&ots=yLPVSeehFR&sig=dIqexUgon_OA51oyAqgySpj8h2o&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result.  For a relatively current take on it, read up on Maxon Crumb, Robert Crumb's brother, and there's also a youtube (?) video out there of some college guy doing it.




ownedgirlie -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 4:24:28 PM)

I clicked on the link you provided and they wrote about swallowing cloth.  Much different than swallowing teflon, which is a known carcinogen.  I Googled Max Crumb but he's a modern day dude and if he actually practices regular swallowings of teflon then he just hasn't contracted his inevitable cancer yet.  I tried Googling the Buddhist Monk practice of swallowing teflon but came up blank.  Since teflon was first sold commercially in 1946, it must not be a very old practice.  Just sayin....[;)]

The rest of the idea is hot, though, but since my Master doesn't want me getting cancer, he won't be having me swallow teflon balls anytime soon.  We all kinda like Softness around here (well, most of us, anyway - heh) so hopefully you won't have her eat that stuff, either.




missturbation -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 4:53:26 PM)

Warning** Thread hijack**

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Once the girl is safely in my posession, she will be 'convinced' to swallow a ball of rolled up teflon thread.  She will be made to drink a full 16 oz glass of water following the ingestion, and then chained hands over head to the bars.  Within three days, and often as fast as 24 hours, the string will make an appearance out of her ass.  The other end of the string is then tied to a slightly larger and very slightly stronger polyethelene string.  She is made to swallow.  Very carefully over the next several hours, the thread is pulled through her, very very slowly.

This procedure is repeated a couple more times, until a nice, lovely and virtually unbreakable 1/4" poly rope has been passed completely through her body.  Once this procedure is complete, both ends of the rope are tied off on a free-moving swing arm, allowing the captive to move freely from bed to wherever.  She will need to be taught how to keep her rope clean, and will be fed only soft or liquid foods.  During this period of captivity however, I can imagine little more humiliating, degrading, terrifying, and monstrous way to ensure her compliance and utter servile need to please.

Yes, I know this is icky.  :)


Not at all - volunteers [:D]




leakylee -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 5:29:00 PM)

WOW!!!

oh wow.. i just dont know much of what else to say.




missturbation -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 5:39:26 PM)

That you volunteer too and we can start a chain of captive slaves [:D]




HarryVanWinkle -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 9:21:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ViceVersa
Apparently, there's an opportunity for such captivity out there. A friend of mine shared this link with me:

Isolation Cell


I don't buy it.  I think it's a scam.

"All prisoners are held under this contract without rights to end it. The guards are in place to do the job of holding the prisoners regardless of their current disposition. Some days a prisoner may wish to leave and break the contract, the guards are in place to make sure that the prisoners follow through with their part of the contract."
 
It is not legally possible in this country to give up one's right to withdraw consent.  The minute the "guards" absolutely refused to release a girl who demanded to be released, they and everybody in charge of this site would be guilty of several felonies, at the very least, kidnapping and unlawful imprisonment.  Knowing the way law enforcement people like to pile on charges, they could probably come up with at least a dozen more.




HarryVanWinkle -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 9:32:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stef
Cute.  You had better add a subterranean lime pit to your blueprints because you're going to need a place to dispose of your guests' bodies.

~stef


As long as he's doing Leanard Lake and Charles Ng's schtick, he might as well build a home made crematorium.  Seriously, such things have been done, alhtough without the rope trick.  They end up being mulitple murder cases.




ownedgirlie -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 10:10:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

I don't buy it.  I think it's a scam.



I think so, too.  I clicked on one of the chickies in a cell.  She can't wait to get an email from all of us and respond right away. 

Except I didn't see any computer in that 24/7 cell...




HarryVanWinkle -> RE: As anyone here ever subjected a person to or been a long term captive in a consensual situation. (7/13/2008 10:18:59 PM)

I read through the "prisoner's" profiles.  One of them said that when she gets an email, a "guard" comes and reads it to her.

But, I still don't buy it.




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