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nonuts4thshoney -> sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 11:50:37 AM)

i am on vacation right now as i am typing this. Master and i went to visit her family in Michigan and so far it has been very interesting. the family has already noticed how much i do for her and is kinda irritated by it. here's what i've been doing since i've been here. i've made breakfast for her (and everyone else) done her laundry (and some of the household towels to help out), made dinner for the family twice and cleaned up afterwards, offer anyone near me a drink or a snack if i am heading to the kitchen etc... So because i am like this a couple of Masters family members believes that She makes me do this and doesn't beleive that i actualy enjoy being like this. Her sister n law can't stand that i do so much for her and Her brothers jaw drops in amazement each time i do something for him. her mother said to me that i was spoiling Her and my commemt was that i was raised in a very tradition household. Women in the kitchen, men on the couch. LOL!! She laughed a little, but i think she understood that Master (her daughter) doesn't make me this way that it's just how i was brought up. But i am just so amazed at how the "Super Vanillas" view my behaviour as not being normal. Just wanted to share this with everyone because so far it's been an interesting week.




redheadedfire4u -> RE: sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 12:00:41 PM)

lol life as a vanilla for me was to be constantly boxed and labled ... servile and whimpy was a favorite ... oh I particularly loved the box that said low self esteem because I appeared to care more for others than myself ... the soft touch box because I enjoyed helping .... oh but my personal favorite is the one men throw you into no matter how intelligent or well spoken you are after a good night in bed that they really enjoyed sudenly your labled a slut and treated like it even out side the bedroom ... loved that one ... not that I am bitter at all about my experiences in the vanilla world ... hell no




FelinePersuasion -> RE: sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 12:09:32 PM)

Yup. When I went to spokane joesephs dad said I was being really bossy to joseph cause I kept asking him if he could get me things, he told me I needed to lay off asking joeseph and get it myself. I told him I don't normally ask joe for lots of things, but since my back is out HE's been running things for me. However, I do expect that even though he's a vanilla boyfriend he helps me with things sometimes, like when I am crafting and I need something inside I ask politely if he'd do me a flavor* as we call it* And I tell him what I need and where it is. I always say thank you though, and sometimes I grope him as a reward:)

It's none of the non kinkers buisness that you want to serve and to wait on your Master. I can kind of understand concerns though that maybe in their eyes their daughter seems to be selfishly making you do everything, however I think you explained it quite well.




jro2020 -> RE: sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 12:16:52 PM)

Sounds to me that they are kinda caught back in the 50's anyway so why worry to much what they think. Do your actions not please your Master? Is your Master embaraced by your actions, if so has she asked you not to preform your duties to her? Frankly it doesn't sound to me like you are being anything but polite, and as such we need more polite people. If your Master askes you to act as such do so and take pride in the fact that your master is well pleased.

Possibly they feel like you are making yourself too at home. After all it is the duty of the host/ess not the guest to offer snacks and drinks. Have you considered that you may be misinterpreting their amazement as being at your submissiveness, when in fact they in awe at the liberties you take with them? Did you ask permission of your host before you made everyone breakfast and dinner, or included their towels in your washing? Or did you userp these rights from the people who held them? I do not doubt you in your judegement of their feelings, but have you considered these things. A persons home is their castle and no-body likes having their job taken away from them even if they are the scullery maid. Make sure you are not insulting your masters family by your actions of if you are, tha this is whay your Master wants.




slavejali -> RE: sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 12:17:01 PM)

The comments i have recieved by people around us who dont know about the Master slave relationship we have...a lot of the time is envy...not in a bad way envy..but basically people acknowledging how close we are..and wondering how to get a relationship like this too...
My daughter is a typical teenager, with all the emotional highs and lows, when she gets into one of her moods, she has said things to try and be cutting like... .."...yeah and you just do everything for (insert Masters name)...you jump when he says anything..." trying to prove a point that im weak and subservient lol..i think actually that is the greatest compliment she has ever given me lol




nonuts4thshoney -> RE: sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 12:22:03 PM)

Whats interesting is that the guys absolutely love it and want a clone of me ...LMAO!! It's the women that hate it. Maybe because they see their husbands loving it and it's pissing them off. LOL!!




nephandi -> RE: sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 12:27:53 PM)

They are probably just concerned parents, and since they dont know what lifestyle you are into, to misundertand the situation is werry easy.




nonuts4thshoney -> RE: sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 12:34:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jro2020

Sounds to me that they are kinda caught back in the 50's anyway so why worry to much what they think. Do your actions not please your Master? Is your Master embaraced by your actions, if so has she asked you not to preform your duties to her? Frankly it doesn't sound to me like you are being anything but polite, and as such we need more polite people. If your Master askes you to act as such do so and take pride in the fact that your master is well pleased.

Possibly they feel like you are making yourself too at home. After all it is the duty of the host/ess not the guest to offer snacks and drinks. Have you considered that you may be misinterpreting their amazement as being at your submissiveness, when in fact they in awe at the liberties you take with them? Did you ask permission of your host before you made everyone breakfast and dinner, or included their towels in your washing? Or did you userp these rights from the people who held them? I do not doubt you in your judegement of their feelings, but have you considered these things. A persons home is their castle and no-body likes having their job taken away from them even if they are the scullery maid. Make sure you are not insulting your masters family by your actions of if you are, tha this is whay your Master wants.


Very good questions to ask jro2020. here's a little info on the family that i am staying with. i am staying with Master's brother and sister n law. They have 2 year old triplets (ahhhhhhhh!!) and they both work full time. Master's mother comes over and helps during the day until they get home from work which is about 6-ish. The sister n law would do anything not to have to cook or clean. She is so exhausted by her day at work and when she comes home she tries o spend some time with the triplets. When her husband comes home (Master's brother) he plops down on the couch and watches tv. WHOA!!! i watch out because then a fight starts because shes screaming at him to help out with the kids. Ahhhhhh! So, when i get p in the morning the sister n law is already one to work. She works Monday thru friday. Her husband is off acouple of days during the week and those have been the days that i have made breakfast for him and my Master. i offered to cook dinner for the family a couple of nights and they were releaved because they usually have no time to cook and grab somelike to heat up. Master and i have also helped watch the triplets and give them baths. The sister n law needs all the help she can get. Also, this is not the first time i have met them. They all know me, they just haven't seen me in action. LoL!!! i really think it's the politeness that gets to the women.




HeavenlyCeleste -> RE: sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 12:34:53 PM)

All my vanilla friends think I have it made. Which I do! I hope you enjoy the rest of your vacation!




obis -> RE: sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 4:15:34 PM)

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Whats interesting is that the guys absolutely love it and want a clone of me ...LMAO!! It's the women that hate it. Maybe because they see their husbands loving it and it's pissing them off. LOL!!


I'm sure that IS some of it -- if they make a straight clone of you, I'd sign up :)

The other thing would be with any same-sex relationship, I've noticed people tend to be more conscious of power differences. They always want to say that one is the "man" or "woman" of the relationship, so seeing their daughter as the "man" may be a little disconcerting. Of course, if a woman is dominating over a man in a straight relationship, it isn't seen as all that unusual, so go figure.




sweetpettjenny -> RE: sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 4:42:54 PM)

my family said i was tooo doting over my ex Master and he took advantage of my kindness....lol




candystripper -> RE: sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 4:45:51 PM)

O criminey; time with your partner's family may be many things, but it is not a VACATION. My ex's family was Dysfunction Junction, and i remember vividly being struck -- and i do mean hit -- by my father-in-law because i was engrossed in a conversation and didn't notice it was time to serve dessert. i wanted to smack that old shitheel to Toledo; he also pulled me on his lap one time in ther basement family room and when i told my ex, he said "don't make a scene".

i am older and parents are less plentiful on the ground now with Men my age, but i still have such distate for the snide remarks, etc. and my ex's total failure to stand up for me that i'd have to be dragged to meet Someone's family, particularly parents.

Just grind your teeth and remind Her this is a difficult time for you; a little reward when it is over is not out of line.

candystripper




Evanesce -> RE: sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 7:59:38 PM)

quote:

So because i am like this a couple of Masters family members believes that She makes me do this and doesn't beleive that i actualy enjoy being like this. Her sister n law can't stand that i do so much for her and Her brothers jaw drops in amazement each time i do something for him. her mother said to me that i was spoiling Her and my commemt was that i was raised in a very tradition household. Women in the kitchen, men on the couch. LOL!!


The first time I met Master's family was fairly similar. Everyone noticed that I "did things" for Him that his ex wife would never have done, and His mother, shortly after I moved in with Him, told me "Don't let him make you do everything. He's an adult now." I had to bite my tongue to keep from laughing and simply told her I did those things because I enjoyed doing them.

MY family, on the other hand, knew all about our relationship before they met Him. The only person who said anything at all was my little sister who, in a pissy mood that day, declared that I was His "puppet." All I could do was laugh and tell her that if she REALLY believed that, she didn't know her sister very well at all.




jro2020 -> RE: sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 8:22:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: nonuts4thshoney



...the week and those have been the days that i have made breakfast for him and my Master. i offered to cook dinner for the family a couple of nights and they were releaved because they usually have no time to cook and grab somelike to heat up. Master and i have also helped watch the triplets and give them baths. The sister n law needs all the help she can get. Also, this is not the first time i have met them. They all know me, they just haven't seen me in action. LoL!!! i really think it's the politeness that gets to the women.



Oooh new theory maybe they are Jealous and since they can't take it out on her they take it out on you.




lonewolf05 -> RE: sub'ing around the vanillas (11/13/2005 9:19:10 PM)

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if he'd do me a flavor* as we call it*

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heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

no fair--------i have been using that line now since the 70's.......

(roflmao-----)

seriously,.....i actually thought "I" was the only-one that said it........

kinda spooky....

woofie




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