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littlesarbonn -> RE: A curiosity (7/18/2008 3:38:03 PM)
I'm not sure this completely answers the question, but I do know that I've been in a number of situations where I was owned by Mistress X and Mistress Y actually went through a great deal of effort of trying to poach me from Mistress X. And then after I got past that hurdle, Mistress Z would come along and do the same thing. Quite often, Mistress Y and Z were women with whom I had established a rapport before Mistress X became my owner at that time, so it was very difficult to stay the course. But I did. And I believe the reason I did was that I never believed any other woman would take me seriously, even if she was the one who poached me. She would always know I was that easy to leave someone I pledged myself to. I also believe in a number of those situations, the fact that I was wanted by Mistress X in the first place caused the others to want to own me. Otherwise, I think I would have been just as "attractive" as anyone else who was still seeking a dominant.

Maxwell67 -> RE: A curiosity (7/18/2008 5:18:30 PM)
I have been witness to the poaching of a straight female slave from her straight male Master by a bisexual female Mistress. Needless to say I know it is a possibility. I have seen it happen. That facts in that situation were that the Master in this story was one of those semi-passive-aggressive types who bragged that the worst punishment he could give to 'His' was simply to say he was disappointed (a punishment he relies on often in fact, much to his continued detriment IMO, since it leaves the slave feeling continually guilty, like the offense what never dealt with fully, rather than a firm and fair punishment which is carried out and then over, so that all parties can return to some emotional equilibrium).The slave had an excellent reputation and was loved and admired by everyone in her house (and many others as well). She was the alpha slave of that household, and was thought of as very loyal. However, she was, in fact quite miserable, since she felt the household had too many slaves and her Masters attention was spread too thinly. She was feeling neglected, despite her obvious importance to the household. All parties involved were close acquaintances of myself so I got to see it more-or-less from all angles, as it was happening. I had a number of long conversations with the submissive in question and even went through a sort of crisis of conscience about talking to her original owner about the problem before the poaching actually took place, but decided in the end, to mind my own business, as much as that was possible. The farthest I went in becoming involved was to urge the sub in my story to talk to her Master about what she was feeling. I hope never to have to see something like that happen again. No one really got what they wanted in the end. Everyone got hurt, at least a little bit. The end result was not pretty... The Master and his household have still not recovered fully from this event, though many months have passed since then. The Mistress in question is no longer trusted by any of the other dominants in that social circle, and she is herself just a bit paranoid that her new slave will jump ship again (go figure). The slave is still dealing with issues of guilt over the event to this day. Her old friends and acquaintances do not view her with the same respect they had once, myself included.

SurrenderForMe -> RE: A curiosity (7/18/2008 6:08:40 PM)
I am too tired to remember who is which so I am going to use plain English, I hope. Yes, it is possible for the straight domme to poach the bi sub from the bi domme. Yes, it is possible for them to have a relationship that satisfies both. I've seen that happen several times. I see the relationships as relationships and cheating and dumping partners happens just as often, but can have some interesting twists. I was puzzled and asked what about the sex. Straight domme thought nothing of using dildoes, fist, etc to play with sub. Did not consider it sex. Another domme had the opinion that letting her sub service her orally was kink not sex. Third time I asked the (in this case lesbian sub) and she moved out of boredom, did not have any sexual and barely had any sensual contact, but was getting what she wanted for now. Others, I knew the situation and didn't ask the hows and whys because my curiosity was satisfied that it was just human nature. The less pretty side. I refrained from getting into the subject that some of those responses made me wish to, the dictionary and definitions, and how people discard it when it does not say what they want.

pixelslave -> RE: A curiosity (7/19/2008 6:26:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ElanSubdued LadyPact, I am the S...; feel the S... flowing through me; come with me and we'll rule the galaxy together! Oh. Darn. That slipped out. Blame Pixel. Lord Pixel obviously gave me tainted popcorn! LOL! I think it was more likely those sneaky border guards putting something in it Elan! [:D] quote: (Please excuse my rather blunt language - possibly a remnant of Pixel's popcorn :-). Hey own your own behavior! I can't help it if you drank too many Molsons with the popcorn! [;)] quote: When you're in a relationship, you don't stop noticing others who are attractive to you in addition to your partner. Really? I do! I become oblivious to anyone else once I become involved with a woman. Quite often that woman will have to point other women out to me that they want me to notice for some reason as I'm typically focusing my attention on *them* instead of whomever else might be around; with perhaps the exception of another woman who is making a spectacle of herself and can't be ignored, in which cas we'll both likely be looking at her and discussing the situation. LOL! [&:] quote: For myself, I've always chosen not to act because I value my partner, the relationship I have with my partner, and my sense of honesty and loyalty in far greater proportion to flings (which I don't value at all). In other words, no matter how hard they tried, someone couldn't "poach" me. It does take a lot of time and energy to build a relationship. I value that as well. As a submissive, trust is essential to a D/s dynamic in a relationship. That's something a woman would doubtless have with me if I were hers and I'd no doubt feel I had it with her in order to be able to give her my complete submission. Could I be "poached"? I can't imagine how that would be possible. [8\|] I could see me leaving a relationship that wasn't working, which I've done, then eventually winding up with someone else that perhaps I already knew or met while things weren't breaking apart, but I wouldn't consider that poaching. That would be a choice I was making. [&:] quote: It's my opinion that the energy used to build containment walls is misguided and wasted, and is perhaps far better used deciding to accept the straying partner as-is or to end the relationship and find a more compatible partner. Someone who'd try to build a containment wall would be sending a big red flag signal to me! quote: ORIGINAL:LadyPact There's another thread bouncing around here somewhere that asks a similar question of, can a person become sexually attractive to you (the Dom or sub in your life as applies) over time. However, as it's discussed there, the idea is debated on the premise that the two people involved are of the opposite gender. I think this is different than the improbable, if not impossible, sexual attraction of a bisexual female to a straight Domme. While I know of some who serve without sexual relationships with their Masters or Dommes, or who may identify sexually with them in an incompatible manner, I just don't see it happening when casually approached. It's been my observation that the relationships where those kinds of things do happen, are formed over time, and not situations where someone happy in an existing relationship could likely be influenced in such a manner as you describe in your OP. [X(] - pixel

LadyPact -> RE: A curiosity (7/22/2008 4:14:06 PM)
Thank you, pixel, for your comments, if not the popcorn. I was almost concerned that 'eleven' had smooshed this thread, too.

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