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Spicy foods and Endorphins - 7/17/2008 11:01:58 PM   
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I have a craving for spicy food.  Like, eating wasabit straight kind of spicy.  Or salsa so hot that you think your throat will burn when you swallow. :-)

In searching around for what may have cause this craving, there are a lot of websites that say people eat spicy foods for the endorphin rush.

So, my fellow kinksters, do you eat spicy foods for an endorphin rush?  Do you like spicy foods?  Do you know what causes this craving? :-)
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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 7/17/2008 11:07:32 PM   
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I'm not wired for endorphins. Just doesn't happen with me,I will go into shock before I get high.

I do wasabi to clear out my nose-that's about it.

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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 7/17/2008 11:44:57 PM   
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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 7/18/2008 5:40:24 AM   
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I'm not all too sure about them thar endorphins...

But, I thoroughly enjoy spicey food. It doesn't exactly need to burn me to the point where I can't taste what I'm eating, but... Mmmm. I do so enjoy to have my food with a bit of a bite.

Thai food is the best. <3

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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 7/18/2008 6:46:18 AM   
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Bearing in mind, we use the terms "spicy" and "hot" for both sex and food, back in grad school, in an attempt to satisfy my almost insatiable curiousity about D/s kink, I was perusing the stacks in Widener Library in desperate search of true kink to be gleaned from the ancient collections ... when I ran smack into the direct connection of spicy foods and endorphins!

There, alone among the annals and journals, as I leafed through the dusty literature (no world-wide web in those heady days), I discovered, and I remember this very clearly, a series of references to treatment of black slaves where the wealthy plantation owners rubbed chili pepper into their hapless slave's kitty, as punishment for some presumed infraction. (Oh, to have lived in a prior day and to have my very own slave girl ....ever since then I've wanted to try this on a willing subbie ) <slap><slap> ...

As I read on, I was finding myself getting aroused by the ideas it fostered, <slap>, expecially for the pretty and presumably intelligent (hence one who could appreciate a good D/s time) mini-skirted coed innocently sitting to the left of me (always to the left, for mathematical reasons prior stated in another thread), my thoughts, of course, unbeknownst to her, wondering what it would be like to spice up her lovely kitty right then and there, as we quietly smiled at one another.

Delving further into my studies, I slowly came to the realization, amazingly to me, that you can't "taste" spicey foods at all, since your tongue can only taste 4 flavors (salt, sweet, sour, bitter, and, newly proposed, a fifth "umami" flavor, aka savory or seaweed). The natural question was .... ummm... what about spicey foods?

Alas, it turns out, you don't actually "taste" spicy foods at all. You experience them. Yup. Spice, as you've surmised, e.g., chili pepper, has a different effect on you altogether.

Not only do you EXPERIENCE spicy foods - but that experience modifies your pain sensations! At that time (long ago, I assure you), it was hypothesized that the oily substance closely mimicked a purportedly natural "substance P" (which was reputed to be responsible primarily for conducting pain signals). Given that spice and pain are now closely associated, it's no wonder our sadistic slaveowner utilized it in other sensitive places around his hapless nubian nymph's body related to pain and punishment.

Fast forward a few decades and we find that spice and pain are closely associated, and that capsaicin, the active ingredient in the chili pepper oleoresins, because of it's specific mimickry, can use up substance p (hence you need more and more spice to excite the "pain" taste of pepper over time), and when there is no neurotransmitter, there are no transmissions in the neurons. You become numb to the pain.

Interestingly, see these results on the naked mole rat ability to feel pain (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080129125533.htm).
Or this description showing local supplies of neurotransmitters are used up by spice clogging the pain receptors (http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/DVH/HerbsWho/0,3923,4095|African%2BPepper,00.html).
Here's an about.com layman's article on how spice relates to the sensation of pain (http://arthritis.about.com/od/arthqa/f/substanceP.htm).
Or, for the die hard kinksters (please remove that huge plug of ginger root from your slave's anus now, thank you), here's a reference titled "The Neurobiological Basis of Pain and its Control" (http://keck.ucsf.edu/neurograd/faculty/Basbaum.html).

Note: If any Silicon Valley sub wants to meet me at the San Jose Public Library in order to allow me to experiment with spices on your pussy - of course, only to satisfy my seemingly insatiable lusty scientific curiousity of course, <wink>, please write  (I'm sure my inbox isn't going to be flooded with willing local volunteers!) ... sigh....  :)


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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 7/18/2008 7:34:32 AM   
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Spicy food can actually make a difference.  They tend to speed up blood pressure slightly which can also lead to more easily swollen genital regions.  You may break into a sweat, breathe more deeply, feel a pleasant flush, and other physical reactions.  Spicy foods are thus naturally considered an aphrodisiac.

Your reasons for craving it can be that you are tired of blandness and need something to wake up your taste buds, or it can be a true physical need.  I have hypoglycemia (low blood sugar), and I find that my body craves exactly what it is needing.  I might crave a hamburger (protein) or cottage cheese (calcium since I cannot drink milk) or something like corn chips (carbohydrates and salt).  But, if I crave chocolate, it simply means that I am hungry - not necessarily that I "need" chocolate.  Some of us are more in tune with our bodies (in my case because I have to be for my health) and then cravings are normally specific, but for others it is just because their mind misses tasting something.  Go for it - go get your spicy.  I've heard that giving someone head right after eating something spicy will also heat them up.  : )


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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 7/18/2008 3:09:27 PM   
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I like spicy foods...no endorphin rush here though.  Just spice period.  Living in the midwest..I ordered some nachos yesterday..the salsa was tomato sauce.

So, I make my own now...I've got some peppers growing that can curl anyones nose hairs.

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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 7/18/2008 8:59:53 PM   
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To me spicy foods are just pain.  I seem to be short on endorphins. 

I drink tonic's like Coke, after they go flat, because it hurts to swallow.

Several times in the past, someone has brought this up in discussion and theorized that masochists were more prone to hot/spicy foods.  Each time an informal poll of ten to twenty people present resulted in the conclusion, that at least in that group of people, it was about equal.  So spicy food does not mean masochist. 

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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 7/18/2008 9:01:59 PM   
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in my case i love spicy food, the hotter the better, but i'm definitely not a masochist.  well, unless we're talking abrasion play

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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 7/18/2008 11:38:20 PM   
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do you also crave weird things besides spicy foods like ice?  if so, then boost on the iron in your diet.  :)

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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 7/18/2008 11:44:46 PM   
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I love spicy foods. If I'm eating something that is very hot, it does create a mild rush. I am compelled to keep consuming it. The original burn fades to a numbness. It must be" habanero hot" and taste good. Although, flavor does fade from the equation as the taste buds, lips, and tongue all grow immune from the flame. It is an endorphin release. It comes nowhere near what happens with whips, canes, teeth, etc.

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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 1/7/2009 11:34:40 PM   
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Interestingly similar thread, yet with topical ointments instead of spices .....
http://www.collarchat.com/m_2302465/tm.htm

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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 1/7/2009 11:45:48 PM   
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I don't know. Is it proven, if it is then I am must be a complete endorphin junkie.
I have soup or noodles, a good two or three tablespoons of Louisiana Hot Sauce or unless I can get it Habanero Sauce. Tobasco doesn't do it for me, not hot enough. Drink a bottle of that stuff and I wouldn't break a sweat.
Korean Hot and Sour Soup, yummies.
Hot Jalapenos, eat them raw.
Load them on a sandwich and I am good to go.
Wasabi, I ask for extra with my sushi.
Suicide wings, the trick is in the vinegar along with the hot spices and sauce.
Not happy until my eyelids are sweating and my lips have gone numb.


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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 1/7/2009 11:50:38 PM   
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quote:

I drink tonic's like Coke, after they go flat, because it hurts to swallow.


I do that with carbonated beverages. Root Beer, Ginger Ale and Mountain Dew. Also keep my beer in the cupboard and my liquor in the fridge. Well I did when I lived in Toronto. Pop stays on the cupboard, which is okay, Miss likes her pop the same way too.


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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 1/7/2009 11:56:23 PM   
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I don't do spicy foods.  I don't even use pepper, onion, or garlic.  

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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 1/8/2009 2:53:08 AM   
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I absolutely adore spicy foods - although my mother and aunt still have far superior tolerances. Being half- japanese and raised in the Bay Area also means I've always been exposed to very very spicy oriental food of all flavors and varieties. Interestingly enough - I don't like wasabi but that has more to do with the fact I can't tolerate condiments that act as a mustard of some form without it being incorporated thoroughly into a dish.

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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 1/8/2009 7:03:28 AM   
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I ate a lot of spicy foods when i am pregnant or on my monthly and I have no idea why I crave them more during those times,hormones maybe?

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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 1/8/2009 7:11:03 AM   
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Interesting idea! I like spicy food myself, although either of us eating spicy foods before play is a big no-no (it gets to the point where I can taste it on him, or visa versa, and it's not so tasty for me when secreted out of bodily fluids!)

Interestingly enough, my taste for spicy foods HAS increased the more we expand on endorphin play...hmm....something to think about!


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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 1/8/2009 9:48:33 AM   
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I love spicy flavor but not hot.  I make some salsa and mexican food to die for and people can add a bit if they want... but I typically add it and make my own a bit milder.  I want the flavor.

I will never forget growing some peppers that no one could eat.  We had a contest going that if anyone could eat small slivers of it every couple of seconds and finish the whole thing in twenty mintues... they would be paid.  No one ever did it.

I did know a guy who was into rushes of all kinds.  If there was something odd going on, you knew he was behind it or involved.  He decided to drink a beer mug of tabasco.  We were in the bar I was working and I gave him his order but tried to discourage it... but I knew better.  Oh he stood up and drank that thing down and everyone cheered.  He left soon after and we didn't see him for three days.  I am sure it wasn't the endorphin's keeping him away!

I go moderate all the way... and will get my endorphin's another way! lol

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RE: Spicy foods and Endorphins - 1/8/2009 10:24:00 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pompeii
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Not only do you EXPERIENCE spicy foods - but that experience modifies your pain sensations! At that time (long ago, I assure you), it was hypothesized that the oily substance closely mimicked a purportedly natural "substance P" (which was reputed to be responsible primarily for conducting pain signals). Given that spice and pain are now closely associated, it's no wonder our sadistic slaveowner utilized it in other sensitive places around his hapless nubian nymph's body related to pain and punishment.

Fast forward a few decades and we find that spice and pain are closely associated, and that capsaicin, the active ingredient in the chili pepper oleoresins, because of it's specific mimickry, can use up substance p (hence you need more and more spice to excite the "pain" taste of pepper over time), and when there is no neurotransmitter, there are no transmissions in the neurons. You become numb to the pain.



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