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Ability (or lack thereof) to cum during a session. - 7/18/2008 9:16:53 PM   
subsubtle


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Status: offline 		Do any guys here find it impossible to work yourself up to an orgasm during a session?  I've had three sessions and in two of them I was instructed to jerk off and cum.  I couldn't even really get close.  I want to know why this is.  I think it's just that my body and mind are experiencing so many things and so many extreme sensations that I wouldn't be able to concentrate enough to cum.  Any thoughts?


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RE: Ability (or lack thereof) to cum during a session. - 7/18/2008 9:22:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think I've ever cumed during a scene.  Other than the time a couple of months ago when two Dominas sewed me to a table and that wasn't an ejaculation.  It was more like a forty five minute, full body orgasm.  I'd be willing to give up ejaculations for life if I could go there again every now and then.  Talk about intense.

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RE: Ability (or lack thereof) to cum during a session. - 7/19/2008 4:09:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Orgasm can be gotten without ejaculation. Media likes to associate the two like they're some dependant thing, but it's not necessarily one.

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RE: Ability (or lack thereof) to cum during a session. - 7/19/2008 9:09:33 AM   
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Orgasm can be gotten without ejaculation. Media likes to associate the two like they're some dependant thing, but it's not necessarily one.


Well, let me put it this way, it was the first time I'd ever experienced what I'd call an orgasm that didn't involve my genitalia.  Or at least didn't involve them any more than the rest of my body.

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RE: Ability (or lack thereof) to cum during a session. - 7/19/2008 10:28:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		have your mistress try a prostate massage on you  bet you will cum then  and if done right you have no choice but to cum and no control over that too  my mistress knows my prostate well i must say ..love it that i cant stop her too once those fingers of hers holds your prostate hostage lol ,mal

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RE: Ability (or lack thereof) to cum during a session. - 7/19/2008 10:32:59 AM   
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Orgasm can be gotten without ejaculation. Media likes to associate the two like they're some dependant thing, but it's not necessarily one.


I've heard this before... I just don't grasp it.  Short of that time I spent the day going for "personal best" I've never had an orgasm without ejaculation.  Have you?  That said, your physiology may differ slightly from mine, but is that an important factor?

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RE: Ability (or lack thereof) to cum during a session. - 7/19/2008 5:02:47 PM   
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Orgasm can be gotten without ejaculation. Media likes to associate the two like they're some dependant thing, but it's not necessarily one.


I've heard this before... I just don't grasp it.  Short of that time I spent the day going for "personal best" I've never had an orgasm without ejaculation.  Have you?  That said, your physiology may differ slightly from mine, but is that an important factor?


I'm legally male because I got the male 'bits', supposedly functional, though I can't cum. No sperm at all - and yes, I can orgasm, I have, too. So yeah it's possible. I'm just a bad example though since I've never even been able to.

I lack pretty much all of testosterone's effects post-birth. Before my hormonal therapy, I also lacked estrogen's effects. This might be related to my having no libido prior to hormonal therapy.

I may be legally male, but technically I'm not either male or female. Resisting testosterone the extent I did is not 'normal' it's classified as an intersex condition called Partial Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome.

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RE: Ability (or lack thereof) to cum during a session. - 7/19/2008 5:19:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subsubtle

Do any guys here find it impossible to work yourself up to an orgasm during a session?  I've had three sessions and in two of them I was instructed to jerk off and cum.  I couldn't even really get close.  I want to know why this is.  I think it's just that my body and mind are experiencing so many things and so many extreme sensations that I wouldn't be able to concentrate enough to cum.  Any thoughts?



I think you have answered your own question. Add to that the fact that being told to perform with someone watching, isnt quite the same as with someone joining in. Stress and tension affect different people in different ways.

Edited to fix quotes.

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RE: Ability (or lack thereof) to cum during a session. - 7/19/2008 11:02:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper
I've heard this before... I just don't grasp it.  Short of that time I spent the day going for "personal best" I've never had an orgasm without ejaculation. 


What you have had is one way it can occur. One has made several withdrawals from the ATM. The new deposits haven't hit the account yet. So when one attempts another withdrawal, one gets the receipt but no cash comes out. The analogy doesn't quite hold since getting the cash that's the fun feeling but you get the point ;-) I think what is happening in that case is that the body is going through the process of reaching orgasm and ejaculating, however, the ejaculate is too little in volume to come out.

Also, a guy can deliberately hold off ejaculation as the orgasm occurs. One way to do so is by squeezing the penis to compress the urethera and block the flow of ejaculate. Holding off on ejaculating limits the refractory period in comparison to when ejaculation occurs, which is the closest men can get to having multiple orgasms. However, I learned that this practice can have harmful effects (google retrograde ejaculation) and so I have given up multiple orgasms for sake of functioning anatomy ;-)

A third way to experience orgasms without ejaculation is via spiritual or energetic orgasm. I have never experienced one but have heard of it and have seen people experiencing it. Some Eastern philosophies (tantra, etc) favor this type of orgasm and, in fact, discourage physical orgasm because having one is thought to lessen the life force. Maybe that's why I feel tired ;-)

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Sea

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RE: Ability (or lack thereof) to cum during a session. - 7/20/2008 2:55:16 AM   
HeavansKeeper


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Status: offline 		SaraZeal,

I think what you said is a big factor in how you orgasm.  I don't know what bits to take and leave, as I have aspects related to ejaculation you don't.

Undergroundsea,

Those are the three ways I've heard of.  1+2 are physical, and as such I completely understand them.  What interests me is the third.  I've heard many people talk about seperating the orgasm from the ejaculation, but have seen no substantiation.  Like you, we've only heard of it.  If anyone has had this experience and would like to share, I'm all ears.

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RE: Ability (or lack thereof) to cum during a session. - 7/20/2008 4:35:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		HeavansKeeper...... Once, when told to keep bringing myself to the brink orgasm, my phone rang mid session and i kind of got the timing wrong. I felt myself losing it and stopped quickly, i had the orgasm but no ejaculation. Im wondering is this what you refer to with the third way ?   i dont know if it would be possible repeat this, but the timing would need to be 100% perfect.

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