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Termyn8or -> Nudity (7/19/2008 12:29:34 PM)

This was in my head but a couple of recent posts have impelled me to express it.

Now you got your religious types, who are probably rare here, at least when it comes to that. But the hubbub about it is a phenomenon to behold.

So much importance is somehow inbued into this subject in the human race. I would like to analyse this phenomenon.

There are all kinds of laws, must be 21 to see this or see that. Why ? Whatever age you are, let's say Mom is taking a bath, not making any noise in the bathroom, not like a shower. People used to take baths all the time, with a shower you can hear the water running of course, but some people enjoy a nice relaxing bath anyway.

So you walk in the door and let's say you see your Mother naked laying in the tub. What kind of sin is this ?

There are several different aspects to this. First of all we are hairless apes. The word hairless being the operative here. Get naked and sit on a cement stoop, get sore. Go out in the sun, get burnt. Sit in a car that's been sitting in the sun all day and YOWEEOWEE.

We are actually more comfortable in clothes. Actually the last few years I sleep with a tshirt on. I really do not want to be naked, except for those times I do, and you can guess when that is. Would I want to drive down the street for a sixpack maked ? hell no, even though my car has cloth seats. Vinyl or leather of course, fuck you, in the summer anyway. In fact Women with very short skirts have that problem as well, and I guess it would follow trhat Men in shorts would as well.

We want to be covered. What that may mean, is to this point which we have supposedly evolved, our skin is simply not up to the task of protecting us.

But the physical aspects of this are not the end by any means. There are nudist colonies and those people think a bit differently than the rest of the world. Cool, enjoy yourself. But I bet in those places you can get a robe or towel when needed. And right now I have had the unpleasant thought of having a sunburnt penis. That would not be pleasant to say the least and most would think that it would defeat the purpose of the nudist colony, but I am not so sure.

So there is a physical aspect to it. You have a dog or cat, it means nothing to take a look at their genitals, and actually they don't seem to have a problem with that by and large. But if we all walked around nude, each Man would be prejudged based on the size of his penis, Women would face similat judgement based on the looks of their vagina, or in some cases how low their breasts are hanging. Or how big they are.

Right now I am wondering who wrote the book of Genesis. They ate from the tree of knowledge and discovered that they were naked. Sewed fig leaves. Sewed ? What was it a chastity device ? Were they sewed to the skin ? And where did they get the thread and needles ?

Similarly why must Moslem Women cover their face ? None of this makes any sense. The human body is a beautiful thing. At best it is curvacious and of the opposite sex, and though I am not gay at all, even a Man's body can be beautiful.

The problem is people can't appreciate it without getting horny, and in the case of the same sex to a straight, get away, because sex is implied.

Why is that, and maybe that is my question. I realize that we are more comfortable dressed, but why the stigma about nudity ? It seems to be such a big issue.

Maybe I am just a wierdo, I don't care how good lookintg you are, it doesnot stimulate me. When I first got the internet people are telling me of all the porn I can get, and I did frequent blowout.com when they were around. In fact alot of their pictures were BDSM oriented, and just so you know, for me a Woman tied up fully clothed is more of a turnon than a simple nude picture.

So maybe I am wierd. Why does a Man automatically get aroused at the simple glance of a female nude, or a quick peek at her goodies ? I can understand undressing her and seeing what you are going to get, but you can't fuck a computer screen or a magazine.

I don't see why the image is so compelling, the touching and feeling is where it's at.

If we all walked around naked, it would surely be unacceptable to fondle someone, unless you know them or something. So why is porn such a big issue ?

I can actually enjoy a picture, but I know what it is, I am a realist, it is a picture, thaty is all it is. She is not here. I got thousands of BDSM pictures, but I don't really lust after the model, I try to get ideas. I like luvbight.com, but she is his, so that does me no good. They are thousands of miles away, even if she were available. That does jack shit for me.

We are a family of realists, any deception, including seld deception was severely dealt with when we were young. It is not tolerated. There is a desire to ogle with friends, I do not do that. You can't fuck the screen or a magazine. Inmy family you watch porn with your olady, and you get the kid to program the VCR to record it. We all know what is real and what is not.

Of course now you just get it on demand. What is the demand ? I'd like to understand.

T




DesFIP -> RE: Nudity (7/19/2008 12:38:29 PM)

Sex is not why naturism/naturalism/nudism camps are formed. It was believed to be a lot healthier for the entire skin to breathe and get sun 60/70 years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturism

And remember our ancestors lived in the Savanna, tall grasses, no leather seats to need protection from.

Having grown up on a clothing optional beach, I can assure you that the places on the body most likely to sunburn first are not the bits, but the ears and nose. Meaning if you pay attention to your nose, you'll be out of the sun and under cover before you burn the genitals.




hlen5 -> RE: Nudity (7/19/2008 12:41:14 PM)

In my anatomy & physiology class I was taught that the bits most affected by sun exposure have a nice growth of hair for protection from uv damage.




MstrObjectmaker -> RE: Nudity (7/19/2008 12:59:57 PM)

There are societies all around the world where people are pretty much naked all year around such as in certain parts of Africa, South America, Australia and Papau New Giniea(spelling) to name just a few.

Whether or not you wear clothes or not 24/7 depends on the society you find yourself born into or/and the people who are in power where you live.

Historically speaking one of the first things a society will do when it invades and takes over another society is try and change that society to suit its own laws and codes.

As happened in all the countries I mentioned at the beginning of my reply. However there still remain pockets of societies that still adhere to their own laws and codes in those countries to this day.

In the Victorian era when the United Kingdom and its queen was empire building one of the things the victorians did was to try to convert the natives to christianity and as a by product force them to wear clothes more suited to polite society as they saw it.




Level -> RE: Nudity (7/19/2008 1:09:40 PM)

Why the big deal over nudity? As the OP stated, in part it's that we are bashful, to a degree about ourselves. And the religious part comes in, where most texts call for modesty, and monogamy, which flaunting dangly bits and such would seem to work against.




sub4hire -> RE: Nudity (7/19/2008 2:11:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
So there is a physical aspect to it. You have a dog or cat, it means nothing to take a look at their genitals, and actually they don't seem to have a problem with that by and large. But if we all walked around nude, each Man would be prejudged based on the size of his penis, Women would face similat judgement based on the looks of their vagina, or in some cases how low their breasts are hanging. Or how big they are.
Why is that, and maybe that is my question. I realize that we are more comfortable dressed, but why the stigma about nudity ? It seems to be such a big issue.
So maybe I am wierd. Why does a Man automatically get aroused at the simple glance of a female nude, or a quick peek at her goodies ? I can understand undressing her and seeing what you are going to get, but you can't fuck a computer screen or a magazine.


Actually at nudists camps..if people do judge others bodies..they keep it to themselves.  So, you're wrong about the whole nudist camp thing.  I'm a proud member of AANR and now been to camps all over this country.  It isn't about sex..its about being free.

The stigma of nudity is there because people just aren't comfortable with their own bodies.  They are uptight..which they propel that sort of thinking onto their children...etc.  If you grow up being free you won't have any stigma about being nude.
A man gets aroused because society programmed him to get aroused.  The way we cover ourselves. 
As far as religion goes I figure God brought me into this world nude...he doesn't mind if I stay nude as often as I can.





Vendaval -> RE: Nudity (7/19/2008 5:03:57 PM)

My home is clothing optional and anyone coming over to visit or crash for a night knows this up front.  Speaking as a person of the female persuasion, sitting bare assed on rocks or logs is way uncomfortable.  I am much more likely to want to have on a pair of hiking shorts and boots and a hat and loads of sunscreen.  It is a shame that I cannot dress that way at most public recreation areas.
 
I think that North Americans in general are entirely too uptight about the human body and the facts of life.  So me and mine run around in little or nothing at home, at the local nude beach, at Pagan campouts and Burning Man.




Termyn8or -> RE: Nudity (7/19/2008 8:27:00 PM)

OK Vend, I had to give you a quick perv after that.

Your post probably came as close to what I was after as possible. So you are in a nudist colony, and of course clothing is optional.

In normal life, a Man might see a Woman, and he figures she is a hottie. In the camp, he would already know that I guess. But that is my point.

If you see a guy at a nudist camp, and he is hung pretty good, and overall good looking, do you want to fuck him ? If I were naked and saw a hot thing, would my thing spring ? Would I haver to fuck ? Why ? Just because I saw you ? Well I saw a really nice Lexus the other day, and then got into the truck.

And this point, I don't care, I will bring it up. Dogs go into heat a cule times a year or something, and when they are in heat they will take any male, no exceptions. But they get that way a couple of times a year.

What about the rest of the year. You can watch male and female dogs interact, and if the female is not in heat, the male gets no ideas. Might even hurt her or something. But when she is in heat he will have nothing else on his mind.

So the question becomes, why do human females seem to be in heat constantly ?

I think I did mention something in the way of a warning, that alot of people might notlike this, but those who find themselves able to respond, please do so. I would like to understand this, I have lusted, but only after a certain few. Not just anyone, I am not like that and I was never like that, even when I was young.

You know I walked into getting a really good peep at who would be my one and only. I immediately turned around and said  "Sorry Sherry". I don't want anything by accident, in fact being allowed isn't good enough for me, I will be wanted. I will be wanted or I will not be had.

I want it to be intentional, on purpose. And I do not fuck around when it comes to that, basically I am one of the few Men who a wired to really be monogamous. I don't need a cellphone for you to know where I am at, I will tell you. I lie to noone, I consider lying a power exchange, and on a level that I reject.

In other words I am allowed to go wherever the fuck I want to, so why would I lie to anyone about where I am ? If I am at some hottie's house working in the plumbing, that means the house plumbing. If you don't trust me that is your problem.

I don't play those games, how do I know that Jose from across the street isn't coming over for an occasional tag ? Because I know you. And if the day comes when I don't think I can trust you, that is going to be a VERY VERY bad day. I won't violate your trust, do not violate mine, ever.

I don't need evidence, I will see it in your eyes if you are cheating on me. I will know as soon as I see you, and you might as well have your bags packed. I am not dealing with any DNA tests and Springer and all that shit. Ain't happenin.

You see Addonis and if it makes you horny, it makes you horny for me, nobody else. If that ain't true you ain't mine, and at that moment I am no longer your's. I take this trust seriously, VERY VERY seriously. VERY VERY VERY VERY seriously.

You don't even want to ever find out how seriously, to me trust is worth more than all the gold and silver in the world. You could not buy my loyalty, but if you ever get it, just know that there does not exist enough wealth in the world to buy me off.

I mean I would not take 300 trillion dollars to describe your belly button. I mean that. You get me ? I know the money is garbage, it is worth nothing.

So bring your hot chick ass over here. I am not hooked up at this time, but if I am there is nothing, and I mean nothing that can buy me.

Nothing.

T




pahunkboy -> RE: Nudity (7/19/2008 9:13:04 PM)

there is a component where-  nothing comes out of the body.  we eat- drink- but liquids or solids coming out is something no other person shall see.

clothes- to me is a tool.  sensable.  clothing.  i have no interest in seeing anyone naked.  look around- we are pretty much a midlegaed late middleaged country...    

it must be a full moon cause I usually have a better grasp of Terminators posts.

--if I had to do over - I would not have worn short shorts that I did. I did not think they were short but in a photo I seen they were.

clothes protect us from flying rocks, hot coffee,  and jehova witnesses...   ok- 2 out of 3 aint bad.  lol


so then is wearing a partial dentures- is that clothing? if so I am out.  it would purely be vanity for me - so I dont spent the money on a plate.

oooh ahh- the naturAl me - with a portion of my teeth, wanna look?




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