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Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 10:05:54 AM   
ErosPsyche


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On Sat Psyche and I went to the Men's Club in Charlotte for dinner and drinks. We had a simply wonderful dinner, and as I sat back in the comfy chair, watching girls strip while my slave sat next to me and told me about how badly she wanted to watch me fuck various girls/fuck them herself, I thought, "I'm the luckiest man in the world." A good meal and a few drinks filled my body with a warm, rosy glow, while her nasty talk and the knowledge that I would be taking her home for hard use later suffused my entire being with an urgent heat.

I was going to post about it - about how awesome she was, how lucky I am, what a great deal it all is, blase blase. But as I first wrote the above, I started to think about the members of CM who are still desperately searching. I thought about the people who have been burned by fake after fake, been cruelly disappointed by unfortunate reality, and who have just not found what they needed.

I know some of you here are super-cool invincible titans of self-assurance who have all the answers, never feel hollow or hurt because you have not found your soul mate, and don’t need anyone to feel complete thank-you-very-much-my-completeness-comes-from-within.

But I know there are other, not as coolly cool people who do feel an ache, who are lonely, who long more than anything to connect with another in intimacy that complements their own. I know a lot of people here have a slave/submissive/dom/master shaped hole in their heart – I know I did.

I spent two years looking for my one, mostly at b.com. I made every mistake I can think of, and suffered every kind of disappointment.
-When I first got there it took like three months to figure out the women I was talking to wasn’t really the woman in those pictures, but a serial online fantasizer looking to escape the dreary reality of her vanilla marriage. Sounds painfully stupid on my part now, but I look back and see that I wanted, so wanted to believe.
-I bought plane tickets for women who were who they said they were, except in the crucial aspect of being ready to go beyond fantasy into reality – last minute panic making them run.
-I’ve had the even worse pain of trying, of starting relationships that because of who we are, were doomed: she a slave but not a masochist, desperate to be what I needed but unable to. A masochistic slave but so horrified and guilty that after every meeting there would be a week or two of hiding, until the craving for her fix got to be so much that she came back, desperate for her junk from me, and promising next time she wouldn’t run away after I hurt her. Others as well, mismatches, fuck-ups on my part – break after break.

And then she wrote to me again. She had written almost a year before, and I (Ye Gods what a dunce I am) sent back, “Not interested.” Almost a year later, disappointed (she suffered some shrewd knocks at the hands of men, the kind only a submissive or slave-wired woman is open to), dejected, ready to quit, she wrote me a lovely, flattering, but most of all passionate email telling me how beautiful she thought I was, and how she had read and re-read my essay, “Eyes on Me” until she knew it by heart. She wrote to say she was leaving, and that she knew she could never find the man who would own, use, hurt and love her, and she just wanted to tell me before she went how beautiful I was in here eyes.

The sincerity and passion in her letter caught my eye, and although I at the time was feeling numb, worn on out, disconnected, I responded. No one had ever told me I was beautiful before. We were both ready, when a door was opened for us, to step through.

We are engaged now, workmen are upstairs as I write doing work on our home, and we are working out the day-to-day complexity of melding families in an M/s relationship. Each day and each night we are doing the work.

Don’t give up. Don’t think that because you have been disappointed in the past, you must always be disappointed. Don’t think that pain and heartache are the only inheritance you have. Don’t give up. It may be a long road. You may need to do work, make some choices in order to make yourself available to intimacy, you may need to keep digging and keep kissing frogs. But there is an end to the search, there is a light at the end of the tunnel, and there is someone for you.

Don’t give up.
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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 10:10:08 AM   
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I wish you all the happiness you can find!
You are a wonderful, caring couple.

Hugs,
Katy

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 10:10:27 AM   
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quote:

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(she suffered some shrewd knocks at the hands of men, the kind only a submissive or slave-wired woman is open to),

Great email except for this. Not sure what you are referring to here?

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 10:20:19 AM   
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Lovely message... brought a smile to my face anyway...

bina

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 10:29:58 AM   
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wow.
just when i thought i had an answer for everything.

awesome post.

i am so happy for YOU n YOURS .....from me and mine.
ya'all take care, heah?

wolf


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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 10:32:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ErosPsyche
I know some of you here are super-cool invincible titans of self-assurance who have all the answers, never feel hollow or hurt because you have not found your soul mate, and don’t need anyone to feel complete thank-you-very-much-my-completeness-comes-from-within.

Completeness do come within. Too many people in search for soulmates found themselves even more hurt because they picked the wrong partner simply out of desperate desire to be fulfilled.
It is not being "super-cool invincible titans of self-assurance" if someone finds oneself satisfied and happy with life even when alone. Its just being balanced and adult human being.

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 11:51:49 AM   
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What a wonderful story! I am so happy for you both :)

I agree with Kassia, though, in that completeness *does* come from within, and part of the reason that healthy relationships are successful is because each party understands where they begin and the other person ends, and knows that they have found their *complement*, not some missing body part.

Ms Francine


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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 11:55:25 AM   
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Much happiness and contentment to you both! Are y'all members of CAPEX, LinX or CLOAK there in Charlotte? I know a lot of folks in the BDSM community up there. *smiles*

YIK,
- Geoff
Just down the road a bit in Columbia

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 12:07:48 PM   
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Thank you for your kind words Geoff, and no not yet. I imagine we will eventually join something like CAPEX or TALON or whatever, though I must say LinX and CLOAK are new ones on me - BDSM groups or OS project codenames?

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 12:33:45 PM   
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thank you for the 90's Peter Gabriel/Kate Bush flash back

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 12:34:05 PM   
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Thanks for sharing that.

The open nature of your honesty is refreshing - you are candid almost to a fault!



Just one bit of advice based on one of the stated errors:

When I invite someone to visit me from far away I make them buy some of the things they will need and their own plane fare - up front. When they arrive here, I pick up what's involved in going out, dining, possible extra gifts, and will usually pay half the plane fare upon meeting. That gives them some "mad money" while they are here. I live near San Francisco so most of my outings are to that city to experience its cuisine, architecture, museums, and natural beauty.

In the main, if the chemistry is right we will spend most of our time at my house and in close quarters, honeymoon style. So outside of grocery shopping, there may not be much going out anyway. How much steak, dim sum or sushi should one eat in a single week? And I am an excellent cook besides. But I do like to do some things just to mix things up and see how our personal interests mesh. Day hikes, food, and cultural events are like mini-tests to make sure the other person isn't dead yet.

YMMV.

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 1:41:18 PM   
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there's been many times i have thought of giving up the lifestyle completely...especially in light of recent events. but then again, i will always be a submissive. i know that i have not had any real life BDSM experience, but who ever said that a submissive at heart has to have that kind of experience? i have always been a server in restaurants and i am happy with that occupation. it makes me feel like i have a purpose in life. i get to meet new people and do what i do best, be of service to others. i try not to let bad experiences ruin my life as it is. there are times i think i'm too trusting, maybe i expect too much from others. maybe i am a bit naive by believing people will follow through with what they say they will do. perhaps i'm still bitter...but i'm moving on.

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 1:58:07 PM   
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That was a really nice post. Thank you!

chymes

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 2:09:34 PM   
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thanks, i liked it...LOL

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 2:18:58 PM   
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Congratulations to you both and I wish you much happiness.

Thank you for your post. I am one who needed to see it right now.

All the best to you and yours.

Sarah

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 2:28:10 PM   
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i liked your post ErosPsyche. i thought it seemed caring and supportive. The only part i didnt like was:
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I know some of you here are super-cool invincible titans of self-assurance who have all the answers, never feel hollow or hurt because you have not found your soul mate, and don’t need anyone to feel complete thank-you-very-much-my-completeness-comes-from-within.


Wasnt sure if this came from a bitterness or you were just trying to express how people feel when someone has what they dont ....which amounts to bitterness as well i guess..

Just didnt seem to fit with the rest of the post.

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 6:33:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kasia


quote:

ORIGINAL: ErosPsyche
I know some of you here are super-cool invincible titans of self-assurance who have all the answers, never feel hollow or hurt because you have not found your soul mate, and don’t need anyone to feel complete thank-you-very-much-my-completeness-comes-from-within.

Completeness do come within. Too many people in search for soulmates found themselves even more hurt because they picked the wrong partner simply out of desperate desire to be fulfilled.
It is not being "super-cool invincible titans of self-assurance" if someone finds oneself satisfied and happy with life even when alone. Its just being balanced and adult human being.


Completeness does come from within. I agree with that statement 100%. I must ensure my own happiness and take control over my own life.

Insofar as relationships go, the mathematical theory that is often tossed around is that in love, two hearts beat as one or two souls becoming one. I prefer to apply the theory of the whole being greater than the sum of the parts. In other words, in an ideal situation:

me = 1 self-actualised/loving/respecting human being
him = 1self-actualised/loving/respecting human being

me + him = us

But us = 2 self-actualised/loving/respecting human being + a fulfilling relationship

Where did the relationship come from? It didn’t come from either or us, it is a product of the union.

_________

And to ErosPsyche, thank you for that lovely post. I am currently dismantling my walls to let someone very special in. It takes a lot of courage to let ourselves be vulnerable again after we’ve been hurt. But I’m glad I didn’t give up.

- LA

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/14/2005 6:57:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ErosPsyche

Thank you for your kind words Geoff, and no not yet. I imagine we will eventually join something like CAPEX or TALON or whatever, though I must say LinX and CLOAK are new ones on me - BDSM groups or OS project codenames?


They are BDSM groups. *grin* Not sure what LinX stands for, but CLOAK is Charlotte Lovers Of All Kink. Both are pansexual, LinX is mostly social/munch oriented, CLOAK more educational in outlook. CLOAK is minority oriented, but all races welcome. I've visited w/LinX a few times and have presented to CLOAK a couple of times. Both are pretty nice groups.

CLOAK - http://www.cloakgroup.com OR http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CLOAK/

LinX - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LinX_NC/ OR http://communities.msn.com/CharlotteLinXGroup I think the MSN group is the more active of the two for LinX.

Hope that helps!
- Geoff

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/15/2005 7:12:49 AM   
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that was lovely to read, I wish You both much happiness'
warm smiles to all

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RE: Don't Give Up - 11/15/2005 7:23:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ErosPsyche

We were both ready, when a door was opened for us, to step through.



Thank you for the wonderful testimonial to how this site can work. I believe it happens exactly as you've laid out in your post. "When the student is ready, the teacher appears." When each of us is ready for whatever we're to learn from a prospective partner, they will show up. Though inwardly I already knew this, it's always good to be reminded again..

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